They should have been running the ball from the start. They look like last year's offense. Just run the damn ball to the edge!!
2019 College Football
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I call these games, "memo games". The memo was sent that Maryland would not win or cover this game (Vegas). Watch, next week Maryland will blow out whoever they play.
When you are wrong, your wrong and I was wrong.
Gave Locksley and his staff way too much credit. They were absolutely and completely horrible today. Game was gifted to them on a silver platter and they still could not win. Just a horrible, pathetic, disgusting performance against a bad team. I hope he had fun the last two weeks, because the next two weeks are going to be brutal. One of the worst coached games I have seen in a long time. I do not get pissed very often anymore, but my blood is boiling right now over how awful Maryland and Locksley staff were in this game.
Sorry to those that followed.
Gave Locksley and his staff way too much credit. They were absolutely and completely horrible today. Game was gifted to them on a silver platter and they still could not win. Just a horrible, pathetic, disgusting performance against a bad team. I hope he had fun the last two weeks, because the next two weeks are going to be brutal. One of the worst coached games I have seen in a long time. I do not get pissed very often anymore, but my blood is boiling right now over how awful Maryland and Locksley staff were in this game.
Sorry to those that followed.
One in so far for this week
UCF -11.5 - They know they have to beat teams up to get attention and Pitt is prime for a beating after the Penn State game. A game they had a chance to win but their coach is a moron. I think UCF wins by at least 2 TDs.
This will also be in my teaser for the week, but I am still working on the other two.
UCF -11.5 - They know they have to beat teams up to get attention and Pitt is prime for a beating after the Penn State game. A game they had a chance to win but their coach is a moron. I think UCF wins by at least 2 TDs.
This will also be in my teaser for the week, but I am still working on the other two.
Here is the teaser for the week (3 team 10 points)
UCF-2
Ok State +15.5
TCU +.5
I am not a big believer in Texas and I do not see their defense stopping Ok State from putting points on the board and keeping this one close. I have to admit that I get TCU wrong all the time. They have cost me a lot of money over the years, but I liked what I saw from them on the road last week and I do not think they will lose to SMU. I like this teaser and I will play it for a little more than usual.
It is rare that MD and Navy have the week off at the same time and it is the second bye already for Navy. Gives me more time to cap some other sports!
UCF-2
Ok State +15.5
TCU +.5
I am not a big believer in Texas and I do not see their defense stopping Ok State from putting points on the board and keeping this one close. I have to admit that I get TCU wrong all the time. They have cost me a lot of money over the years, but I liked what I saw from them on the road last week and I do not think they will lose to SMU. I like this teaser and I will play it for a little more than usual.
It is rare that MD and Navy have the week off at the same time and it is the second bye already for Navy. Gives me more time to cap some other sports!
Had to add this:
Northwestern +10.5 -130 - I bought a point and maybe I am getting sucked into this one, but everything points to a Northwestern cover here. The dog in their games is 12-1-1 the last two years. They are a strong home dog and State is a terrible away favorite. Oh, and State can not score. They average 13 point per game in their last 10 against better teams. This is going to be a very, very ugly game. I have doubts about Northwestern's ability to score also and I was positive I would not play them this year after watching them against Stanford, but getting 10.5 points at home in a conference game against a poor offense just looks good to me.
I am mulling over a Michigan ML play as I think this is a pick em type game.
Northwestern +10.5 -130 - I bought a point and maybe I am getting sucked into this one, but everything points to a Northwestern cover here. The dog in their games is 12-1-1 the last two years. They are a strong home dog and State is a terrible away favorite. Oh, and State can not score. They average 13 point per game in their last 10 against better teams. This is going to be a very, very ugly game. I have doubts about Northwestern's ability to score also and I was positive I would not play them this year after watching them against Stanford, but getting 10.5 points at home in a conference game against a poor offense just looks good to me.
I am mulling over a Michigan ML play as I think this is a pick em type game.
Added one more
ODU +28 -120 - I like UVA's team, but they just won a big close home game against Florida State and I have to think they are taking this game lightly. ODU lost to Va Tech by 17 and I expect a similar scoreline in this one. You will get ODU's best effort as they have a lot of Virginia kids who were not recruited by UVA. Just too many points in my opinion.
ODU +28 -120 - I like UVA's team, but they just won a big close home game against Florida State and I have to think they are taking this game lightly. ODU lost to Va Tech by 17 and I expect a similar scoreline in this one. You will get ODU's best effort as they have a lot of Virginia kids who were not recruited by UVA. Just too many points in my opinion.
It is 28-0 and I am still playing Wisconsin at halftime.
Wisconsin +.5
Michigan is terrible. Going to be Harbaugh's last year. They had two weeks to prepare and they are getting completely manhandled and I do no think Wisconsin lets down one bit.
Wisconsin +.5
Michigan is terrible. Going to be Harbaugh's last year. They had two weeks to prepare and they are getting completely manhandled and I do no think Wisconsin lets down one bit.
My only thoughts after watching some bad football teams today is I loved watching Wisconsin playing old school smash mouth football and crushing a team many thought were better than them. I know I am old school but I wish more teams played like that as they are proving you can win by running and playing defense.
I also told you if I bet on TCU they will lose. I put this one all on the coaching staff. They have a 4th and 1 on the 10 down 7 in the 3rd quarter and they run a trick play after they were running the ball down the field. Sometimes the game is easy and coaches make it much harder than it is. Just run the damn ball!! Or better yet, kick a fg, play some defense and win the game. I really hate TCU, but great win for SMU!
I think UCF can quit whining now. They proved today they are not very good just like my handicapping!!
Hopefully we see a good game tonight!
I also told you if I bet on TCU they will lose. I put this one all on the coaching staff. They have a 4th and 1 on the 10 down 7 in the 3rd quarter and they run a trick play after they were running the ball down the field. Sometimes the game is easy and coaches make it much harder than it is. Just run the damn ball!! Or better yet, kick a fg, play some defense and win the game. I really hate TCU, but great win for SMU!
I think UCF can quit whining now. They proved today they are not very good just like my handicapping!!
Hopefully we see a good game tonight!
You'd love to see my dad coach football. Granted, he coached high school football back in the 70's and 80's but he took over a couple programs that were really bad and completely turned them around and won like hell.
I always refer to him as "the most conservative man in the state" but its true. He'd run and he'd stop the run. He'd play field position. Told me he read something by Darrell Royal way back, something called "The Long Way Home" that talked about field position and how so many things can go wrong when a team gets the ball at their own 20. He divided the field into the critical zone (inside the own 30), the "wheel and deal zone" (between the 30's) and the scoring zone/red zone (inside opponent's 30).
He'd throw the ball but he once told me that he almost never threw a pass w/o play action. On another topic, when everything crashed or whatever back in 2008 I think...everyone was losing money in stock market or whatever...he looked at me and said "NOT ME"....he said, I may not be making much but I'm not losing. He planned his retirement for like 4 years and finally got there...about a decade ago.
I've used his strategy combined w my own in video games for years. He got out of coaching before I got to high school but I played for a similar coach. We won b/c we had more talent though but at the same time, we ran the ball a lot. I did play a couple years of club football in college and my dad helped coach one year. It was fun having him on the sidelines and sometimes he'd call plays knowing I'd prob get a pass my way as a WR. One game I caught 2 TD's and got down to the 1 on another reception. Fun as hell.
I miss the days when teams would play field position and run more. You're right, watching Wisconsin dominate today was a thing of beauty. I know the game has changed a lot but its amazing what fundamentals and field position will do. I used to hate the Patriots and BB but I've come to respect them, at least in some ways. A lot of their "running game" is short safe passes and that shows how the game has evolved. Their offense is so good b/c they always have a damn good O-Line. They make starts out of possession receivers and while Brady is damn good and oh so accurate, much of his success is the system. Same w guys like Welker and Edelman, not to take anything away from any of them.
So often today, I feel like I'm watching coaches that might as well be most people on video games. Just pass it all the time w no rhyme or reason...no strategy...I love and much prefer a chess match b/t coaches. That's how me and my friends used to play madden and NCAA....literally a chess match and then discuss things afterward.
I could go on and on but the best I've ever seen, where strategy and fundamentals beat talent...several years ago Wake Forest dominated my Heels and I hated it b/c of the way they did it. It was Grobe vs. Bunting and I've never seen such a discrepancy of football knowledge. Grobe was playing chess and Bunting was playing checkers. Wake is still very fundamental and very fun to watch. Ok, I'll quit rambling now but I love so much about football and I can't stand to see bad football. As my dad likes to quote...."you can at least put yourself in a position to be run over" I think that sums it up!
I always refer to him as "the most conservative man in the state" but its true. He'd run and he'd stop the run. He'd play field position. Told me he read something by Darrell Royal way back, something called "The Long Way Home" that talked about field position and how so many things can go wrong when a team gets the ball at their own 20. He divided the field into the critical zone (inside the own 30), the "wheel and deal zone" (between the 30's) and the scoring zone/red zone (inside opponent's 30).
He'd throw the ball but he once told me that he almost never threw a pass w/o play action. On another topic, when everything crashed or whatever back in 2008 I think...everyone was losing money in stock market or whatever...he looked at me and said "NOT ME"....he said, I may not be making much but I'm not losing. He planned his retirement for like 4 years and finally got there...about a decade ago.
I've used his strategy combined w my own in video games for years. He got out of coaching before I got to high school but I played for a similar coach. We won b/c we had more talent though but at the same time, we ran the ball a lot. I did play a couple years of club football in college and my dad helped coach one year. It was fun having him on the sidelines and sometimes he'd call plays knowing I'd prob get a pass my way as a WR. One game I caught 2 TD's and got down to the 1 on another reception. Fun as hell.
I miss the days when teams would play field position and run more. You're right, watching Wisconsin dominate today was a thing of beauty. I know the game has changed a lot but its amazing what fundamentals and field position will do. I used to hate the Patriots and BB but I've come to respect them, at least in some ways. A lot of their "running game" is short safe passes and that shows how the game has evolved. Their offense is so good b/c they always have a damn good O-Line. They make starts out of possession receivers and while Brady is damn good and oh so accurate, much of his success is the system. Same w guys like Welker and Edelman, not to take anything away from any of them.
So often today, I feel like I'm watching coaches that might as well be most people on video games. Just pass it all the time w no rhyme or reason...no strategy...I love and much prefer a chess match b/t coaches. That's how me and my friends used to play madden and NCAA....literally a chess match and then discuss things afterward.
I could go on and on but the best I've ever seen, where strategy and fundamentals beat talent...several years ago Wake Forest dominated my Heels and I hated it b/c of the way they did it. It was Grobe vs. Bunting and I've never seen such a discrepancy of football knowledge. Grobe was playing chess and Bunting was playing checkers. Wake is still very fundamental and very fun to watch. Ok, I'll quit rambling now but I love so much about football and I can't stand to see bad football. As my dad likes to quote...."you can at least put yourself in a position to be run over" I think that sums it up!
Thanks, I try to keep the rants at a minimum and not act like an old man, but I do not like a lot of what I see some games.
Good stuff TD. My father was also a football coach for over 40 years. He was prone though to some new offenses when they were coming out and he liked to throw the ball. We certainly had some spirited arguments when I used to help him out. Our best teams are when we ran the veer or the wing T. You run those offenses right in high school and they are almost impossible to stop. Can't tell you how many outmanned and outsized teams I saw over the years use those offenses and beat teams with better talent. One of the primary reasons I love Navy football as well as the other service academies. Amazing to see what they can do against teams with more talented players at every position. Also one of the reasons I think coaching is so important in high school and college. Great coaches can win with lesser talent.
I definitely think coaches today make the game more complicated than it should be and have way too many assistants chirping in their ear which leads to bad decisions. I used to be up in the box in my Dad's ear and he took the head phones off just about every game when he didn't want to hear from me! Or sometimes he simply yelled to shut the hell up since I was never that far away!
I will always love high school football. I used to do some scouting for a couple services, but now I just go to some local games when I can and I love that I can watch some on TV almost every week. Not quite the same in lower DE as when I lived in DC, but it is still the purest form of the sport to me. High school coaches are the most important of all in my opinion as they not only teach the game but they teach boys how to become men. I spent my entire life surrounded by high school coaches and I can not tell you how many young men's lives were changed because of high school coaches who truly cared about their players.
Good stuff TD. My father was also a football coach for over 40 years. He was prone though to some new offenses when they were coming out and he liked to throw the ball. We certainly had some spirited arguments when I used to help him out. Our best teams are when we ran the veer or the wing T. You run those offenses right in high school and they are almost impossible to stop. Can't tell you how many outmanned and outsized teams I saw over the years use those offenses and beat teams with better talent. One of the primary reasons I love Navy football as well as the other service academies. Amazing to see what they can do against teams with more talented players at every position. Also one of the reasons I think coaching is so important in high school and college. Great coaches can win with lesser talent.
I definitely think coaches today make the game more complicated than it should be and have way too many assistants chirping in their ear which leads to bad decisions. I used to be up in the box in my Dad's ear and he took the head phones off just about every game when he didn't want to hear from me! Or sometimes he simply yelled to shut the hell up since I was never that far away!
I will always love high school football. I used to do some scouting for a couple services, but now I just go to some local games when I can and I love that I can watch some on TV almost every week. Not quite the same in lower DE as when I lived in DC, but it is still the purest form of the sport to me. High school coaches are the most important of all in my opinion as they not only teach the game but they teach boys how to become men. I spent my entire life surrounded by high school coaches and I can not tell you how many young men's lives were changed because of high school coaches who truly cared about their players.
Lets add the ODU coach to the list of morons. They are up 3 with 10 minutes to go in the game and they go for 4th and 1 on their own 30 yard line. There is not one reason I can think of for making this decision. Seriously, he probably just lost the game for his team. A coach is supposed to put his team in the best position to win and he just did the opposite. No excuse. He just let his entire team down.
Locked some money in on this early this morning:
Navy +11
More on this later, but I like the number right now so will put some down and see how it moves. Just too many points in my opinion.
Navy +11
More on this later, but I like the number right now so will put some down and see how it moves. Just too many points in my opinion.
Good stuff Bason. Really good stuff.
I'll try not to repeat myself as I add a little bit. My dad has always told me just how difficult it is to stop the option. Especially if you have even a threat of being able to pass. These run/pass option attacks have got to be tough as hell to stop and in college I think the offensive linemen can go 3 yards downfield.
My dad ran the veer back in the 70's. I wasn't old enough to appreciate any of it but I was in the 80's. He ran what he called the "stack back" and it was like an offset I...only that both the FB and TB were offset. He said it lined them up better for an ISO and gave them a head start on off-tackle and sweeps...and that if teams decided to overplay the strong side, he could always run a counter. Speaking of counter...prob my favorite play on Madden back in the day. People used to say that if you give me Corey Dillon, I was unstoppable. That's how long ago that was. We played a couple seasons where we drafted our entire team and played it all out. Dillon was my RB and a past his prime but still efficient Jerry Rice was my WR along w Tim Dwight and can't remember who else. Dilfer was my QB. I won the "Super Bowl" w that squad and it was fun as hell.
My dad used to draw up plays and he'd talk about how he could run a play-action pass "tight end across" and tell me what everyone on defense would do. He'd always point to the one of the LB's who had to respect the run and he'd say..."he's the only person in the whole stadium that can cover it"
He'd also talk about how he had a chance to break a team's winning streak of like 50 games or something. It was what turned out to be his last year coaching and 1st year at that school. He said someone mentioned that he should let the asst coaches be involved more. So they're down 6-0 and inside the 10 trying to win it at the end. They give it to the RB and he's stopped at like the one yard line. Its 4th down coming up and he wants to run that TE Across play. Asst coach says "GIVE IT TO HIM AGAIN" so he says, ya know what, I'll involve him and we'll run it. They stuff the run short of the goalline. The asst coach says "GIVE IT TO HIM AGAIN" and my dad has to break it to him that was 4th down...and from then on he didn't involve them in playcalling ever again. lol
Sometimes I wish my dad had stayed in it, that I played for him and went to college, came back and became his assistant and eventually become a head coach...maybe we coach against each other but either way we just discuss x's and o's and everything else. But maybe its better that he didn't.
I love my job and we have a lot of young college students that work with us just like I did back in the day and I do whatever I can for them and hopefully they learn things from me about life as well as the job itself. As for football...the game has changed but there is still a lot you can do when it comes to coaching and playing field position and using fundamentals, etc. Its still a great sport and I love it, esp the college game. I do like to take in the occasional high school game and I keep up with my old school every year.
One thing that's great about the high school game is that its so fast paced. No tv timeouts. After a punt, the ball is marked, the offense is out there and play ball. I love that!!
I'll try not to repeat myself as I add a little bit. My dad has always told me just how difficult it is to stop the option. Especially if you have even a threat of being able to pass. These run/pass option attacks have got to be tough as hell to stop and in college I think the offensive linemen can go 3 yards downfield.
My dad ran the veer back in the 70's. I wasn't old enough to appreciate any of it but I was in the 80's. He ran what he called the "stack back" and it was like an offset I...only that both the FB and TB were offset. He said it lined them up better for an ISO and gave them a head start on off-tackle and sweeps...and that if teams decided to overplay the strong side, he could always run a counter. Speaking of counter...prob my favorite play on Madden back in the day. People used to say that if you give me Corey Dillon, I was unstoppable. That's how long ago that was. We played a couple seasons where we drafted our entire team and played it all out. Dillon was my RB and a past his prime but still efficient Jerry Rice was my WR along w Tim Dwight and can't remember who else. Dilfer was my QB. I won the "Super Bowl" w that squad and it was fun as hell.
My dad used to draw up plays and he'd talk about how he could run a play-action pass "tight end across" and tell me what everyone on defense would do. He'd always point to the one of the LB's who had to respect the run and he'd say..."he's the only person in the whole stadium that can cover it"
He'd also talk about how he had a chance to break a team's winning streak of like 50 games or something. It was what turned out to be his last year coaching and 1st year at that school. He said someone mentioned that he should let the asst coaches be involved more. So they're down 6-0 and inside the 10 trying to win it at the end. They give it to the RB and he's stopped at like the one yard line. Its 4th down coming up and he wants to run that TE Across play. Asst coach says "GIVE IT TO HIM AGAIN" so he says, ya know what, I'll involve him and we'll run it. They stuff the run short of the goalline. The asst coach says "GIVE IT TO HIM AGAIN" and my dad has to break it to him that was 4th down...and from then on he didn't involve them in playcalling ever again. lol
Sometimes I wish my dad had stayed in it, that I played for him and went to college, came back and became his assistant and eventually become a head coach...maybe we coach against each other but either way we just discuss x's and o's and everything else. But maybe its better that he didn't.
I love my job and we have a lot of young college students that work with us just like I did back in the day and I do whatever I can for them and hopefully they learn things from me about life as well as the job itself. As for football...the game has changed but there is still a lot you can do when it comes to coaching and playing field position and using fundamentals, etc. Its still a great sport and I love it, esp the college game. I do like to take in the occasional high school game and I keep up with my old school every year.
One thing that's great about the high school game is that its so fast paced. No tv timeouts. After a punt, the ball is marked, the offense is out there and play ball. I love that!!
TD, I was a give it to him again type of coach. If it ain't broke don't fix it. I loved running the ball. I played for my Dad and coach with him some after college, but I just could not do the teaching thing, so full time coaching was never in my future. Plenty of good times and good memories!
I added a little more to Navy +10.5 today to finish off the bet. I doubt we get a much better line. Navy gives Memphis fits. Navy has shown this year that they are willing to throw which makes the offense more potent. Hopefully the changes to the defense keep the Memphis passing game somewhat in check. Feel good about them staying within this number.
I added a little more to Navy +10.5 today to finish off the bet. I doubt we get a much better line. Navy gives Memphis fits. Navy has shown this year that they are willing to throw which makes the offense more potent. Hopefully the changes to the defense keep the Memphis passing game somewhat in check. Feel good about them staying within this number.
How do you feel about Maryland this week? Are they fairly healthy. Do you think they might play better as an underdog?
I am still working on this game. Penn State has owned Maryland, but I think you will see a spirited effort on Friday night. Will be the liveliest crowd for a home game in a very long time (would have been even better if they did not lose to Temple and the line would be Even). If Maryland focuses on running the ball they will definitely keep this one close. Penn State still has some questions on offense but they are strong defensively. I think the MD defense will play well but the offense is the question, especially the offensive line. I expected the line to be a little lower than it is. Most are focused on the Temple loss, Temple losing to Buffalo and Penn State handling Buffalo. Maybe there is some merit to that, but not much in my opinion.
I will have more tomorrow, but this should be a good game. The head coaches do not like each other very much and it will be interesting to see if Maryland sells out for the black out. I know a lot of people that were going but canceled trips after they lost to Temple. I am still debating whether to go or not. I am getting a little old for night games!!
I will have more tomorrow, but this should be a good game. The head coaches do not like each other very much and it will be interesting to see if Maryland sells out for the black out. I know a lot of people that were going but canceled trips after they lost to Temple. I am still debating whether to go or not. I am getting a little old for night games!!
