The truth always has a way of slipping out over time. Is it 650000 maybe not. Is it 50000 maybe not. Some where between mostlikly. Would say enough forsure.
654,000 Dead
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Eddie can you add these in?
What a freaking mess
Like Trump said lets get the hell out and let them have their little civcil war. Or wait as the neocons cal it Sectarian violence.
110 Bodies Found in Baghdad in 24 Hours
Reuters
BAGHDAD, Oct. 10 -- Iraqi police found 50 bodies dumped across Baghdad on Tuesday, apparent victims of sectarian death squads, and a bombing at a bakery in the capital killed 10 people in the biggest single attack of the day.
The discovery of the bodies, many tortured and all shot, brought to at least 110 the number found in Baghdad in the past two days, an Interior Ministry official said.
A bomb placed under a car outside a bakery in the mostly Sunni Arab southern Baghdad district of Dora reduced the shop to rubble and killed 10 people, many who had been in line outside to buy bread, police said.
At least 25 others were killed in bombings and shootings around Iraq, police and Interior Ministry officials said.
Iraq has been gripped by Sunni-Shiite bloodletting since the bombing of a Shiite Muslim shrine in February. The United Nations estimates that 100 Iraqis die violently every day.
The violence rages on largely unchecked despite U.S. efforts to build up Iraq's fledgling security forces, a major security crackdown in the capital and a series of peace plans by Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's four-month-old government.
Dozens of explosions rocked the capital for several hours on Tuesday night, alarming residents more used to sporadic mortar and rocket attacks, but the U.S. military said the cause was a fire at an ammunition dump at a U.S. base in southern Baghdad.
"The fire ignited tank and artillery ordnance as well as small arms ammunition," the military said in a statement.
A U.S. military spokesman, Lt. Col. Christopher C. Garver, said the cause of the fire, which lit up the night sky, was under investigation.
The Islamic Army in Iraq, one of a number of militant groups, asserted that it had attacked the base with rocket and mortar fire.
There were no immediate reports of casualties. A spokesman for the 4th Infantry Division said the base had been safely evacuated.
Three U.S. Marines were killed in action in Anbar province in western Iraq on Monday, the U.S. military said. Anbar is a center of the Sunni insurgency against Maliki's Shiite-led government and U.S. forces. The deaths brought to at least 37 the number of U.S. troops killed in Iraq since the start of October.
The U.S. military said Tuesday that seven insurgents were killed in an airstrike on a building in Ramadi, the capital of Anbar, after U.S. troops came under "extremely heavy fire."
U.S. officials had predicted a surge in violence during the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, which began in late September.
Maliki's government is under growing pressure, particularly from Washington, to rein in sectarian militias, several of which are tied to parties within his government and are accused of infiltrating the police to provide cover for killings.
Most of the victims found dumped in Baghdad's streets had been shot in the head execution-style and bore signs of torture, typical features of sectarian death squad killings that the Interior Ministry says claim about 50 lives a day. A ministry official had earlier reported the discovery of 60 bodies in the 24 hours leading up to Tuesday morning, but a further 50 were found during the day, officials said.
In the flash point southern Shiite city of Diwaniyah, U.S. and Iraqi troops killed at least nine guerrillas, most dressed as Iraqi police, in clashes around a mosque on Monday night, the U.S. military said.
It said the fighting erupted after a U.S.-Iraqi patrol was fired upon. But Khudair al-Ansari, a senior representative of radical Shiite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, said the troops had been trying to arrest him.
"They shot at us," Ansari said. "One of my guards has two or three grenades and the other has a machine gun. They returned fire and set fire to one of the Humvees. We then withdrew peacefully, thank God."
The fighting follows recent street battles in Diwaniyah.
The U.S. military said 30 militants were killed and an American tank was severely damaged when U.S. and Iraqi troops entered Diwaniyah on Sunday to detain a "high-value target."
What a freaking mess
Like Trump said lets get the hell out and let them have their little civcil war. Or wait as the neocons cal it Sectarian violence.
110 Bodies Found in Baghdad in 24 Hours
Reuters
BAGHDAD, Oct. 10 -- Iraqi police found 50 bodies dumped across Baghdad on Tuesday, apparent victims of sectarian death squads, and a bombing at a bakery in the capital killed 10 people in the biggest single attack of the day.
The discovery of the bodies, many tortured and all shot, brought to at least 110 the number found in Baghdad in the past two days, an Interior Ministry official said.
A bomb placed under a car outside a bakery in the mostly Sunni Arab southern Baghdad district of Dora reduced the shop to rubble and killed 10 people, many who had been in line outside to buy bread, police said.
At least 25 others were killed in bombings and shootings around Iraq, police and Interior Ministry officials said.
Iraq has been gripped by Sunni-Shiite bloodletting since the bombing of a Shiite Muslim shrine in February. The United Nations estimates that 100 Iraqis die violently every day.
The violence rages on largely unchecked despite U.S. efforts to build up Iraq's fledgling security forces, a major security crackdown in the capital and a series of peace plans by Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's four-month-old government.
Dozens of explosions rocked the capital for several hours on Tuesday night, alarming residents more used to sporadic mortar and rocket attacks, but the U.S. military said the cause was a fire at an ammunition dump at a U.S. base in southern Baghdad.
"The fire ignited tank and artillery ordnance as well as small arms ammunition," the military said in a statement.
A U.S. military spokesman, Lt. Col. Christopher C. Garver, said the cause of the fire, which lit up the night sky, was under investigation.
The Islamic Army in Iraq, one of a number of militant groups, asserted that it had attacked the base with rocket and mortar fire.
There were no immediate reports of casualties. A spokesman for the 4th Infantry Division said the base had been safely evacuated.
Three U.S. Marines were killed in action in Anbar province in western Iraq on Monday, the U.S. military said. Anbar is a center of the Sunni insurgency against Maliki's Shiite-led government and U.S. forces. The deaths brought to at least 37 the number of U.S. troops killed in Iraq since the start of October.
The U.S. military said Tuesday that seven insurgents were killed in an airstrike on a building in Ramadi, the capital of Anbar, after U.S. troops came under "extremely heavy fire."
U.S. officials had predicted a surge in violence during the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, which began in late September.
Maliki's government is under growing pressure, particularly from Washington, to rein in sectarian militias, several of which are tied to parties within his government and are accused of infiltrating the police to provide cover for killings.
Most of the victims found dumped in Baghdad's streets had been shot in the head execution-style and bore signs of torture, typical features of sectarian death squad killings that the Interior Ministry says claim about 50 lives a day. A ministry official had earlier reported the discovery of 60 bodies in the 24 hours leading up to Tuesday morning, but a further 50 were found during the day, officials said.
In the flash point southern Shiite city of Diwaniyah, U.S. and Iraqi troops killed at least nine guerrillas, most dressed as Iraqi police, in clashes around a mosque on Monday night, the U.S. military said.
It said the fighting erupted after a U.S.-Iraqi patrol was fired upon. But Khudair al-Ansari, a senior representative of radical Shiite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, said the troops had been trying to arrest him.
"They shot at us," Ansari said. "One of my guards has two or three grenades and the other has a machine gun. They returned fire and set fire to one of the Humvees. We then withdrew peacefully, thank God."
The fighting follows recent street battles in Diwaniyah.
The U.S. military said 30 militants were killed and an American tank was severely damaged when U.S. and Iraqi troops entered Diwaniyah on Sunday to detain a "high-value target."
If you are one of the dumbfvcks from a state of dumbfvcks that spent your time during the last election posting in a GAMBLING FORUM (threatening other members with physical harm)while the rest of the citizens of your state voted in this pig by the slightest of margins(irony at it's finest), you are just as responsible for the murders of these people. Just the slightest effort and/or interest in the outcome of the election by someone so F'n brilliant, could have swayed enough of his adoring fellow queens to change the tide of the election so all those poor thousands wouldn't have had to die.
Funny how some things don't change (1st post in this thread) in this GAMBLING FORUM.
What a piece if shiit.
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I think Intense Operator was rather grumpy last evening. Thanks Saul for taking care of your old man like that. You are right though, I did not take care of southern Ohio. We do have quite a few ignorant people living here.
For those of you not familiar with, as Al Roker might say, my neck of the woods, picture if you will, several million Pete Roses, living in brick 1950 style homes and you get an idea of southern Ohio. Yes, its true, hell on earth.
The women, for the most part, listen to country music, are most interested in finding some dumb fuhk to take care of them for the rest of their respective lives because they, like their Pete Rose counterparts, are too stupid to think for themselves and to do anything on their own except bone their husband. Accordingly, we have ripe Republican voters (dumb, dumb and dumber). Welcome to Bush country.
Hard to sway this conglomeration of absolute idiots. Perfect bible belt corporate conservative stupid people who are 100% susceptible to the lamest mom, country God apple pie patriotic tactics of evil corrupt people. This country is in the crapper.
eddie
For those of you not familiar with, as Al Roker might say, my neck of the woods, picture if you will, several million Pete Roses, living in brick 1950 style homes and you get an idea of southern Ohio. Yes, its true, hell on earth.
The women, for the most part, listen to country music, are most interested in finding some dumb fuhk to take care of them for the rest of their respective lives because they, like their Pete Rose counterparts, are too stupid to think for themselves and to do anything on their own except bone their husband. Accordingly, we have ripe Republican voters (dumb, dumb and dumber). Welcome to Bush country.
Hard to sway this conglomeration of absolute idiots. Perfect bible belt corporate conservative stupid people who are 100% susceptible to the lamest mom, country God apple pie patriotic tactics of evil corrupt people. This country is in the crapper.
eddie
"Hard to sway this conglomeration of absolute idiots. Perfect bible belt corporate conservative stupid people who are 100% susceptible to the lamest mom, country God apple pie patriotic tactics of evil corrupt people. This country is in the crapper."
eddie
and to think that the head bumpkin conceived and pulled off what was only the world's most intricate and flawlessly executed plan, ever, ever(9/11,of course).....
i think the biggest problem in modern society is
that the penalty for being a complete moron has been lessened to the point where it's meaningless......
i mean, back in the good old days, if you hated your tribe more than the saber-tooth tiger, you got et......
now, you get on daytime tv shows,you host night time t.v. shows,you become a slip and fall lawyer for the aclu..........or you get tenure.....
eddie
and to think that the head bumpkin conceived and pulled off what was only the world's most intricate and flawlessly executed plan, ever, ever(9/11,of course).....
i think the biggest problem in modern society is
that the penalty for being a complete moron has been lessened to the point where it's meaningless......
i mean, back in the good old days, if you hated your tribe more than the saber-tooth tiger, you got et......
now, you get on daytime tv shows,you host night time t.v. shows,you become a slip and fall lawyer for the aclu..........or you get tenure.....
Man, what's going on here?
In the space of 2 days I've seen gw post this, the most sensible couple of paragraphs I've seen for a long time...***
...and I've laughed at one of his jokes, somehow proving he does, in fact, deep down, have a sense of humour!!
Not sure I'm comfortable with the amount of newly formed love, g-dub...
(*** apart from this bit. I mean I'm a pretty imaginative conspiracy kinda guy, but not even I think Georgey Junior executed 9/11
)...(Mind you, anyone who's seen the first 3 minutes of Loose Change 2.0 is well aware that the US government has at least conceived this kind of thing before...)
...but I digress...
Mr. C.
Hey, I've haven't seen you in a while. Those are some refreshing words on my monitor. Good to see you again. How are things in upside down land. Roberts still doing his best to destroy your end of the world.
As you can see Bush and the Lord have teamed up to keep America white, poluted, and in the 19the century. We here in Ohio are doing our part to remain stupid, listen to country music and get excited when they show our tight little Bengal cheerleaders on tv on sunday afternoons (by the way, gfa only miller light girls are much better).
Eddie
Hey, I've haven't seen you in a while. Those are some refreshing words on my monitor. Good to see you again. How are things in upside down land. Roberts still doing his best to destroy your end of the world.
As you can see Bush and the Lord have teamed up to keep America white, poluted, and in the 19the century. We here in Ohio are doing our part to remain stupid, listen to country music and get excited when they show our tight little Bengal cheerleaders on tv on sunday afternoons (by the way, gfa only miller light girls are much better).
Eddie
Honey bunch:
It aint the whole tribe yet. 60%. NPR is still on the air although Karl, Dick, Heinrich and Adolph are trying to shut it down.
Yes, poopsie there remain us intellectuals out here. Although most of the tribe (Ironlock, Wayne, IO, yourself, Congressman Foley, Rumsfeld, Kathleen Harris, Jerry Fallwell, Ralph Reed, Tom DeLay, Sean Hannity, Dick Cheney, John Boehner) is well in place and following the party line.
Being a member of the "tribe" is nice, safe and cozy. I mean being an evangelical Christian, ignoring the deaths of between 40,000 and 654,000 innocent human beingscause by the man you heartily support, and driving your SUV to soccer games is a grand way to live your 75.3 years on this planet if your an average white male or female in the USA.
Yeah, thats a moral way to live. And I agree with you GW, that that "tribe" is in the majority right now. But you old piece of furniture polish, you know dad gum well thats not my tribe.
My tribe, is that pony tailed, draft card burning, NPR listening anti-soccer mom group of aging hippies who sees through all this patriotic bull crap and has seen through it since day one. We also have been calling out the little mininons with an agenda (yo Wayne) who are in the pocket of corporate america and have big bucks to make of of the destruction of america.
We've lost our free press. They are owed by Disney, GE, and I don't know who else. The few independents out there are under constant and ruthless attack by corporate america so that gannett and clear channell one day will own it all and we will no longer get "news" but rather the corportate line.
The reality is your "tribe" does not want to think for themselves, because they can't. They want to be told what to do, how to do it and when to do it. They watch Amecian Idol, Survivor, listen to country music, are Republican, Nascar fans, go to mega churchs, midwesterners, soccer moms and cannot think for themselves. They are the undoing of America. They also think Iraq had something to do with 9-11.
My "tribe" listens to NPR, can have a discussion with members of either tribe, watchs discovery channel, and PBS, believes global warming is real, listens to both sides of the abortion issue, listens to country music then discards it for the garbabe that it is, can drink wine or beer, laughs at those at a Nascar event for the amount of money they paid for a ticket, knows that Rossini is not a type of pasta, understands that there may be a God but doesn't dive blindly into some psycotic wacko dependecy because they have nothing else in there pathetic life.
Also in my "tribe" we really hate, and I mean hate those in your tribe who understand all of the above yet choose to be member of your tribe because despite the murder and death caused by the right wing, they know they can profit from it. In other words, I can accept morons like IO in that tribe, but people like Wayne who I think know whats going on yet choose to belong is beyond criminal.
That is pure evil. If there is a hell, they will be there.
Eddie
It aint the whole tribe yet. 60%. NPR is still on the air although Karl, Dick, Heinrich and Adolph are trying to shut it down.
Yes, poopsie there remain us intellectuals out here. Although most of the tribe (Ironlock, Wayne, IO, yourself, Congressman Foley, Rumsfeld, Kathleen Harris, Jerry Fallwell, Ralph Reed, Tom DeLay, Sean Hannity, Dick Cheney, John Boehner) is well in place and following the party line.
Being a member of the "tribe" is nice, safe and cozy. I mean being an evangelical Christian, ignoring the deaths of between 40,000 and 654,000 innocent human beingscause by the man you heartily support, and driving your SUV to soccer games is a grand way to live your 75.3 years on this planet if your an average white male or female in the USA.
Yeah, thats a moral way to live. And I agree with you GW, that that "tribe" is in the majority right now. But you old piece of furniture polish, you know dad gum well thats not my tribe.
My tribe, is that pony tailed, draft card burning, NPR listening anti-soccer mom group of aging hippies who sees through all this patriotic bull crap and has seen through it since day one. We also have been calling out the little mininons with an agenda (yo Wayne) who are in the pocket of corporate america and have big bucks to make of of the destruction of america.
We've lost our free press. They are owed by Disney, GE, and I don't know who else. The few independents out there are under constant and ruthless attack by corporate america so that gannett and clear channell one day will own it all and we will no longer get "news" but rather the corportate line.
The reality is your "tribe" does not want to think for themselves, because they can't. They want to be told what to do, how to do it and when to do it. They watch Amecian Idol, Survivor, listen to country music, are Republican, Nascar fans, go to mega churchs, midwesterners, soccer moms and cannot think for themselves. They are the undoing of America. They also think Iraq had something to do with 9-11.
My "tribe" listens to NPR, can have a discussion with members of either tribe, watchs discovery channel, and PBS, believes global warming is real, listens to both sides of the abortion issue, listens to country music then discards it for the garbabe that it is, can drink wine or beer, laughs at those at a Nascar event for the amount of money they paid for a ticket, knows that Rossini is not a type of pasta, understands that there may be a God but doesn't dive blindly into some psycotic wacko dependecy because they have nothing else in there pathetic life.
Also in my "tribe" we really hate, and I mean hate those in your tribe who understand all of the above yet choose to be member of your tribe because despite the murder and death caused by the right wing, they know they can profit from it. In other words, I can accept morons like IO in that tribe, but people like Wayne who I think know whats going on yet choose to belong is beyond criminal.
That is pure evil. If there is a hell, they will be there.
Eddie
DJV:
And you can count on this administration to tell us the truth as to the number of dead in Iraq. You know damn well they know how many they've killed also. They are inhuman. And they wonder why they flew planes into the towers.
Eddie
And you can count on this administration to tell us the truth as to the number of dead in Iraq. You know damn well they know how many they've killed also. They are inhuman. And they wonder why they flew planes into the towers.
Eddie
Sorry weas...It was a good ride, but we both knew it couldn't last. :sadwave:
These ARE the two best paragraphs I've read for quite some time.
...on fire there Ed!!
it sounds like edward wants the u.s. government to be responsible....
prof. chomsky, you've done your work well indeed....
that`s right,edward....it`s all an evil right wing conspiracy...lol
actually, conspiracy theories are easy to construct....make up a cast of characters, connect them in a warped, twisted tangle, and make sure the jews are a the top controlling everything.
it's easy, and fun.....
and i appreciate edward...i like edward...because he`s honest...he puts it out there instead of trying to veil his agenda...
by implying that the u.s. is more evil than lil' kim,saddam and ahnadinnerjacket, it tells us everything we need to know about his politics....
it's a lot easier to get wrapped up in these bush/cheney/rove theories when you're an america-hating stalinist....
if not for edward,we wouldn`t know that all the evil in the world was covered up by the political reality of our vast rightwing neocon zionist mcchimpyburton nazi amerikkka (stop for breath).... racist sexist terrorist christian fundamentalist blood for oil quagmire conspiracy.....
this is why edward is the high priest of moonbatology....:sadwave:
prof. chomsky, you've done your work well indeed....
that`s right,edward....it`s all an evil right wing conspiracy...lol
actually, conspiracy theories are easy to construct....make up a cast of characters, connect them in a warped, twisted tangle, and make sure the jews are a the top controlling everything.
it's easy, and fun.....
and i appreciate edward...i like edward...because he`s honest...he puts it out there instead of trying to veil his agenda...
by implying that the u.s. is more evil than lil' kim,saddam and ahnadinnerjacket, it tells us everything we need to know about his politics....
it's a lot easier to get wrapped up in these bush/cheney/rove theories when you're an america-hating stalinist....
if not for edward,we wouldn`t know that all the evil in the world was covered up by the political reality of our vast rightwing neocon zionist mcchimpyburton nazi amerikkka (stop for breath).... racist sexist terrorist christian fundamentalist blood for oil quagmire conspiracy.....
this is why edward is the high priest of moonbatology....:sadwave:
A lot of people just have to understand that the whole "thing" isn't black and white.
There is no solid line that says the west is good and just and fair and correct (and has the right religion/god )...and everyone on the other side is evil.
The sad thruth is that we in the west have made our own bed (so to speak)...sadder still, is that we continue to do so.
I don't think anyone is saying specifically that America is the evil empire...but BOTH 'sides' have played a pretty big hand in the mess that we now find ourselves in.
There is no solid line that says the west is good and just and fair and correct (and has the right religion/god
)...and everyone on the other side is evil.The sad thruth is that we in the west have made our own bed (so to speak)...sadder still, is that we continue to do so.
I don't think anyone is saying specifically that America is the evil empire...but BOTH 'sides' have played a pretty big hand in the mess that we now find ourselves in.
Agenda? Agenda? Why I oughta.... Since when is truth an "agenda". Weasel if I didn't like you I would kill you.
Wayne, what was too rough. Merely because I believe that you are the devil you shouldn't take that too heart. I'll still have a beer with you. Just don't put your hand on my thigh.
Eddie
Wayne, what was too rough. Merely because I believe that you are the devil you shouldn't take that too heart. I'll still have a beer with you. Just don't put your hand on my thigh.
Eddie
edward...you are a peach....i would never have thought i`d enjoy a slip and fall lawyer as much as i enjoy your repartee...
did you catch the story on the other slip and faller(a bella abzug look-a-like,btw)..getting only 28 months for aiding and abetting her terrorist client?....
i`m starting a thread on it.....it`s a welcome respite for a beaten down, scandal-riddled neocon supporter like moi....
ain`t it amazing how all these scandals broke several weeks before crucial elections....
you dems are soooo.......lucky?..........
did you catch the story on the other slip and faller(a bella abzug look-a-like,btw)..getting only 28 months for aiding and abetting her terrorist client?....
i`m starting a thread on it.....it`s a welcome respite for a beaten down, scandal-riddled neocon supporter like moi....
ain`t it amazing how all these scandals broke several weeks before crucial elections....
you dems are soooo.......lucky?..........
I wouldn't mind having beer with him GW--but will wait till his girl friend is out of circulation.
By Matthew Verrinder
Mon Oct 16, 4:45 PM ET
NEW YORK (Reuters) - A New York attorney convicted of aiding terrorism by helping a client smuggle messages to militant followers was sentenced on Monday to 28 months in prison.
Lynne Stewart, 67, was convicted in February 2005 of helping her imprisoned client, Sheikh Omar Abdel-Rahman, to contact the Islamic Group, which the U.S. government lists as a terrorist organization.
Prosecutors said messages Stewart passed on for Abdel-Rahman could have ignited violence in Egypt. The sheikh was convicted in 1995 of conspiring to attack U.S. targets in a plot prosecutors said included the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.
Stewart, long a defender of the poor and unpopular, was sentenced by U.S. District Judge John Koeltl in Manhattan federal court. She could face more than 15 years in prison on the charges.
"I am very grateful to the judge," Stewart told reporters and supporters rallying outside the courthouse, calling her sentencing a "victory against an overreaching government."
The civil rights lawyer has defended her actions, saying she was only zealously representing her client.
Tagged as both heroine and radical leftist, Stewart is the only U.S. lawyer to be indicted on terrorism charges. Civil rights groups say the case stemmed from Bush administration efforts to discourage the defense of accused terrorists.
U.S. Attorney Michael Garcia said in a statement that the government was disappointed and would consider an appeal.
Since her 2002 indictment, Stewart has spoken at rallies, been convicted after a seven-month trial, undergone treatment for cancer and become the subject of a documentary called "Who's Afraid of Lynne Stewart?"
Evidence for the terrorism charges included a call Stewart made to a Reuters correspondent in Egypt in which she read a statement issue by the cleric saying he had withdrawn his support for the Islamic Group's cease-fire in Egypt. That correspondent was subpoenaed in the case.
By Matthew Verrinder
Mon Oct 16, 4:45 PM ET
NEW YORK (Reuters) - A New York attorney convicted of aiding terrorism by helping a client smuggle messages to militant followers was sentenced on Monday to 28 months in prison.
Lynne Stewart, 67, was convicted in February 2005 of helping her imprisoned client, Sheikh Omar Abdel-Rahman, to contact the Islamic Group, which the U.S. government lists as a terrorist organization.
Prosecutors said messages Stewart passed on for Abdel-Rahman could have ignited violence in Egypt. The sheikh was convicted in 1995 of conspiring to attack U.S. targets in a plot prosecutors said included the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.
Stewart, long a defender of the poor and unpopular, was sentenced by U.S. District Judge John Koeltl in Manhattan federal court. She could face more than 15 years in prison on the charges.
"I am very grateful to the judge," Stewart told reporters and supporters rallying outside the courthouse, calling her sentencing a "victory against an overreaching government."
The civil rights lawyer has defended her actions, saying she was only zealously representing her client.
Tagged as both heroine and radical leftist, Stewart is the only U.S. lawyer to be indicted on terrorism charges. Civil rights groups say the case stemmed from Bush administration efforts to discourage the defense of accused terrorists.
U.S. Attorney Michael Garcia said in a statement that the government was disappointed and would consider an appeal.
Since her 2002 indictment, Stewart has spoken at rallies, been convicted after a seven-month trial, undergone treatment for cancer and become the subject of a documentary called "Who's Afraid of Lynne Stewart?"
Evidence for the terrorism charges included a call Stewart made to a Reuters correspondent in Egypt in which she read a statement issue by the cleric saying he had withdrawn his support for the Islamic Group's cease-fire in Egypt. That correspondent was subpoenaed in the case.
I wouldn't mind having beer with him GW--but will wait till his girl friend is out of circulation.
--another maryr for the poor and uneducated
By Matthew Verrinder
Mon Oct 16, 4:45 PM ET
NEW YORK (Reuters) - A New York attorney convicted of aiding terrorism by helping a client smuggle messages to militant followers was sentenced on Monday to 28 months in prison.
Lynne Stewart, 67, was convicted in February 2005 of helping her imprisoned client, Sheikh Omar Abdel-Rahman, to contact the Islamic Group, which the U.S. government lists as a terrorist organization.
Prosecutors said messages Stewart passed on for Abdel-Rahman could have ignited violence in Egypt. The sheikh was convicted in 1995 of conspiring to attack U.S. targets in a plot prosecutors said included the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.
Stewart, long a defender of the poor and unpopular, was sentenced by U.S. District Judge John Koeltl in Manhattan federal court. She could face more than 15 years in prison on the charges.
"I am very grateful to the judge," Stewart told reporters and supporters rallying outside the courthouse, calling her sentencing a "victory against an overreaching government."
The civil rights lawyer has defended her actions, saying she was only zealously representing her client.
Tagged as both heroine and radical leftist, Stewart is the only U.S. lawyer to be indicted on terrorism charges. Civil rights groups say the case stemmed from Bush administration efforts to discourage the defense of accused terrorists.
U.S. Attorney Michael Garcia said in a statement that the government was disappointed and would consider an appeal.
Since her 2002 indictment, Stewart has spoken at rallies, been convicted after a seven-month trial, undergone treatment for cancer and become the subject of a documentary called "Who's Afraid of Lynne Stewart?"
Evidence for the terrorism charges included a call Stewart made to a Reuters correspondent in Egypt in which she read a statement issue by the cleric saying he had withdrawn his support for the Islamic Group's cease-fire in Egypt. That correspondent was subpoenaed in the case.
--another maryr for the poor and uneducated
By Matthew Verrinder
Mon Oct 16, 4:45 PM ET
NEW YORK (Reuters) - A New York attorney convicted of aiding terrorism by helping a client smuggle messages to militant followers was sentenced on Monday to 28 months in prison.
Lynne Stewart, 67, was convicted in February 2005 of helping her imprisoned client, Sheikh Omar Abdel-Rahman, to contact the Islamic Group, which the U.S. government lists as a terrorist organization.
Prosecutors said messages Stewart passed on for Abdel-Rahman could have ignited violence in Egypt. The sheikh was convicted in 1995 of conspiring to attack U.S. targets in a plot prosecutors said included the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.
Stewart, long a defender of the poor and unpopular, was sentenced by U.S. District Judge John Koeltl in Manhattan federal court. She could face more than 15 years in prison on the charges.
"I am very grateful to the judge," Stewart told reporters and supporters rallying outside the courthouse, calling her sentencing a "victory against an overreaching government."
The civil rights lawyer has defended her actions, saying she was only zealously representing her client.
Tagged as both heroine and radical leftist, Stewart is the only U.S. lawyer to be indicted on terrorism charges. Civil rights groups say the case stemmed from Bush administration efforts to discourage the defense of accused terrorists.
U.S. Attorney Michael Garcia said in a statement that the government was disappointed and would consider an appeal.
Since her 2002 indictment, Stewart has spoken at rallies, been convicted after a seven-month trial, undergone treatment for cancer and become the subject of a documentary called "Who's Afraid of Lynne Stewart?"
Evidence for the terrorism charges included a call Stewart made to a Reuters correspondent in Egypt in which she read a statement issue by the cleric saying he had withdrawn his support for the Islamic Group's cease-fire in Egypt. That correspondent was subpoenaed in the case.
that was worth posting twice,dtb......lol
this deserves it`s own thread...i posted it...
fyi....the judge was a 1994 clinton appointee.....
that shocked ya`,didn`t it?.....
the judiciary could possibly be the most important reason why it`s crucial for dems to not gain control of congress...
btw...what do you call a shyster with a 75 i.q.?
"your honor." .... :142smilie
this deserves it`s own thread...i posted it...
fyi....the judge was a 1994 clinton appointee.....
that shocked ya`,didn`t it?.....
the judiciary could possibly be the most important reason why it`s crucial for dems to not gain control of congress...
btw...what do you call a shyster with a 75 i.q.?
"your honor." .... :142smilie
