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Nick Douglas

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Three plays for today. The reason I am playing the run line on each of these dogs is that both are on the road playing playoff caliber teams in rubber matches of three game series. In handicapping the games I like both the Twins and 'Spos to win outright but I am playing the runline to be a bit more safe.

Also, I am considering adding a $50 or $100 cover-my-ass parlay on the A's, Braves and Reds to avoid catastrophe.

One other note I want to add. I really think KC +240 is one of the more tempting plays I have passed on all year. I know Piniero is a stud and it is unlikely that the M's will lose 2 straight and a series to the Royals, but the way the teams are playing we have an up cycle against a diwn cycle in my opinion with gigantic odds, so it may be worth a flyer. If I have a good night in my earlier games I may even add a bet on the Royals later tonight.

Oh, one more thing. The Pirates vs. Brewers has developed into quite the little rivalry at the bottom of the Central. Last time Sheets face teh Bucs he beaned Ramirez and touched off a huge brawl. The bad blood started when the Brewers came into Pittsburgh before the All Star break last year in wildcard contention but then got swept by the pitiful Pirates. Kind of crushed the Brewers season and when Pittsburgh swept them earlier this year in Milwaukee, it built up more bad blood. I could definitely see the Brewers being way up tonight to get that 3rd straight win so check them out as a dog. Also, one of the top handicappers on this site, Jack ;), has the Brewers as a play.

Houston -140 over CINCINNATI 504/360

I have noticed some very good play overall from the Astros lately. Sullivan was unavailable last night and it cost the Reds and Graves may be unavailable tonight. Oswalt is looking like the Oswalt of old and Reitsma seems to be coming back to earth.

Montreal +1 1/2 -132 over ATLANTA 500/379

Maddux is reportedly still bothered a bit by his calf strain and he took a liner off the shin in his last start. His record is impressive, but remember the guy has gotten 6.38 runs of support. Armas is pitching brilliantly and he has not had the benefit of support. Generally those things even out over the course of a season and this seems like a perfect spot for it to happen, especially with the Expos needing this game badly to stay within shouting distance of Atlanta.

Minnesota +1 1/2 -123 over OAKLAND 500/407

Twins hit Zito well last night and have actually outplayed the A's by a good margin for the first two games of this series. Oakland really struggled the last time they faced a lefty and Santana seems to be at the peak of his game. You have to worry about Mulder after he faced an incredible 39 batters in his last start five days ago.
 

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Added a parlay to cover my rear just in case:

Cincy ML/Atlanta -1.5/A's -1.5 $70/$704

I was thinking about things and even though I dislike parlays I figure it's worth it. Better to be safe than sorry.
 

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SORRY NICKIE

SORRY NICKIE

Nick ive been on fire and what your posting makes no sense to me.... The pirates and my boy J. fogg will not be swept in their own house like a bunch of bitches...Bet the farm on pittsburg boys.... it will pay you big.....got pit at -111.0....

IM OUT :thefinger :thefinger :thefinger the brewers....

also love the mariners -1.5 -150...nickie your not making sense like i said
 

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Here are my plays

1665.00/1500.00 on the Pirates

1500.00/1000.00 on Mariners runline

like me and my boy say "bet it and forget it" on these two plays...

Im out;) :D :D :D :p :p :) :)
 

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Hey, Johnnie, got to tell u I agree wholeheartedly with Pitt tonight (see my thread re: same), however, props must go to "Nickie." I have been reading his writeups for a while and he makes alot of sense alot of the time. We all may disagree on picks..its the nature of this game....but we are all on the same side...against the "man." GL to all.
 

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It's good to see that Beantown's telling his friends about the site. Always like to see new faces.

Nick,

This is the second time I've seen you use this reverse parlay and I'm not sure why you would think that it makes sense to do this when you don't like regular parlays. If you want to reduce your exposure to winnings and losings, wouldn't it make more sense just to lower your wager and not pay the juice on a parlay against your regular wagers. As 2-1 is the most likely result tonight as you're playing favs in the 120-140 range, your lowering your expected win from the 250-300 range to 180-230 and if two lose, it will be increase from the 600-650 range to 670-720 range. You will benefit greatly if you lose all of your plays but doesn't this type of wagering lower your expected ROI? Interested in your thoughts.
 

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No offense Nick, but I gotta agree with BobbyBlueChip on that parlay thinking. If your thinking is you might go 0-3 on the day.....just knock down your wager size a bit or don't play them.
Remember it's still a marathon season....shouldn't be worried on having a O-FER day by backing your stuff up on things like this.....but that's just my look at it.

Good luck tonight on the games :)
 

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question

question

where do these guys (Johnnie Wad) come from? seriously, I'm wondering :)

Nick, good luck tonight, and I'd be interested in your feedback on the parlay rationale, as well.
 

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curious where he got Pitt -111, can't find them anywhere under -135...
 

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chump....probably the same place he placed the mythical wagers :rolleyes: Heck the line opened at -155 some places. It's dropped quite a bit, but not that far!
 

JOHNNIE WAD

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NJO at my book

NJO at my book

NJO I got that line at the same place that had your Badgers +145 in my house last september when joey and my boys sent you packing..... anyway not to talk to much trash but my pitrt call was good....

Im out....;) ;) :nono: :D :D :D
 

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Chump

Chump

I got that line at the same place that had your RAMS -250 in the superbowl...oops hope you didnt make that play go PATS:thefinger ;) :moon: :moon: :nono: :thefinger :thefinger :

im out
 

Nick Douglas

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Good job on the PIT win. They did a good job there. Glad I didn't bet it.

I don't do the oh-fer parlays often, in fact this is the second time I have ever done it. The reason I did it is that looking back at my results over the past year, the times when I have gotten hurt have generally been on one big day of losses rather than losing steadily over a period of time. In this particular case, I decided to do it because I has +114 on OAK, +121 on ATL and +134 on Cincy, all differences of less than 10 cents from the lines I played on each individual game. I figured since I have had a few winning days in a row I didn't want to have to worry about it all going up in flames in one 0-3 day since a very small parlay would limit my max loss to a very reasonable amount.

I fully agree that this is not what you would call a great mathematical strategy for long term money management, and I would not recommend it with 10, 15 or 20 cent line differences between the two sides.

One last thing I want to point out here is that if one is playing 3 faves, and thus expecting at least 2 wins, this strategy ain't that bad. Here is a breakdown, starting with a max loss of $800 ($267 per game), which is what my setup was for the day...

3-0 my way: approx $1150 profit

3-0 standard: approx $600 profit

2-1 my way: 190 to 216 profit

2-1 standard: 138 to 152 profit

1-2 my way: 663 to 710 loss

1-2 standard: 314 to 339 loss

0-3 my way: 800 loss

0-3 standard: 800 loss

Obsiously you get almost 100% gains from a 3-0 day, 50% gains in a 2-1 day but over a 100% extra loss in a 1-2 day. Remember that this is better than you would normally expect because my parlay odds were so close to the straight up numbers I bet the other way.

I don't know if I made this clear or not, but from a pure ROI/mathematical/etc. perspective, this is a negative move unless the lines in the parlay are as large as the lines the other way. I was just saying that my reason is more the psychological reason of not wanting to worry about losing the profits I have worked hard to make all week back in a single day.
 

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Know where you're coming from on the psychological view standpoint. I stear away from certain situations even though I may feel they are good plays, basically for the simple purpose of keeping an edge as far as the mental focus goes....seems to work out....keeps me from getting influenced from meaningless stuff, etc.
 

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Thx for the explanation, Nick. I thought that I was missing something. But, just to let you know how my day went, I would have hit a 7-teamer if I had followed your system :(
 
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