So are you saying pit bull owners by and large are bad parents and golden retriever dog owners are good parents. Racist.
a 4yo child dies
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So are you saying pit bull owners by and large are bad parents and golden retriever dog owners are good parents. Racist.
With all the extensive dialogue already posted by me, this is what you were able to glean from its content? I said nothing of the sort. You calling me a racist is tantamount to dead person telling me I don't look so good.
How the fuck would this make me a racist in the first place? You would think with as much time as you spend in the deep end of the bigotry pool you would know what the fuck racist means.
My point is people can't have it both ways. You can't say the parents are at fault and put the dog down. I would explain this to you in depth but I am all out of crayons, dolls, and Play-Doh
Hope this helps,
FDC
I think it's the parents' fault and also this particular dog unfortunately should be put to sleep.
It doesn't. I was just trying to get a rise out of you. My comment was so preposterous it's comical. Have a good weekend Kujo.
FDC? IYO would you say that an average pit pup raised from birth in a "good" household is more, less, or equally as likely of "attacking" a child as an average Labrador raised in the same "good" conditions?
Lets just say that attacking means hospital or worse.
Lets just say that attacking means hospital or worse.
It has been my experience that the odds are equal. While I am sure there are numbers that will support otherwise, out of the hundreds of dogs I have placed, none..............not a single one.............has bitten anyone. I only deal with what are considered to be the "dangerous breeds". Meaning, Rotties, Mastiffs, Shepherds, Pitties, Dobermans, and yes Labradors. Every single dog I have ever placed has also received more that forty hours of training. That is actual hands on training, one on one.
I am not denying that there are more reports of pit attacks than other dogs. What I am saying is that they are almost all avoidable with the proper training.
Hope this helps,
FDC
May I ask as to why you don't agree?
I ask because this is exactly the type of thinking I would like to see changed. Dogs NEVER ever ever ever attack for no reason, They are either being territorial, are sick, or are reacting to being threatened. None of us have any idea what happened in that house preceding that attack. Was the kid poking it, kicking it, was the kid fucking with the dog. I would be willing to bet that he or she was. That is the case at least 90% of the time. Were the parents home at the time of the attack and watching the kid? Where did they get the dog from? Was it from a breeder that raises fighting dogs? Was it a dog that was used for fighting and they adopted the dog from a shelter without knowledge of this? Trust me, that dog did not attack a sleeping innocent little baby in her crib. Something caused that dog to attack. So why kill the dog? Place the dog in a home that has no kids!!! I am not getting on you brother, you know that, I am just saying that the majority of people would say kill the dog just like you because it bit a kid, and they say that without any knowledge whatsoever of the circumstances surrounding the event. Just like most people here that are saying put the dog down. Are we really in a position to arbitrarily kill anything we want simple because we don't understand what happened. That is not the type of person I want to be that's for sure. I would be willing to be a lot of money that the kid did something to provoke that dog. I remember a "Dog Whisperer" episode recently where the parents of a three year old boy couldn't understand why the dog growled and barked at the kid all the time. It was a little maltese mix and the dog eventually bit the kid. Cesar Millan decided to put a couple of hidden cameras in the house to see what was going on and sure enough there was the little boy kicking the hell out of the dog in the backyard when nobody was watching. What a surprise right? Dogs don't just wake up from a nap and decide to eat the baby then have a snack.
My point is this, we as humans like to think that we own the earth and that we get to be lord high executioner of all things that don't do it exactly the way we want things done. Maybe, just maybe, we should pay a little more attention to who we bite, growl at, and attack.
Hope this helps,
FDC
I guess I wouldn't own a dog that could possibly kill a child if it was fucking with it behind my back. I wouldn't chance it. Kids are kids.
If a dog kills a kid, the dog must be put to sleep. It doesn't matter if the kid was provoking it. The worst kid's life is more important than that of the best dog. I hope that is how we will always view the situation as a society. Might not seem fair all the time, but I don't think the rankings should be muddled.
Of course it's the parent's responsibility to teach kids not to provoke animals. But even if the parents screw up, the kid provokes a deadly animal, all the humans do everything wrong - the dog still needs to put to sleep if it ever kills a kid.
Wow, and I thought I was the only one here who valued a human's life over a dog! Gould have agent, Kickserv, and FDC vehemently disagreeing with you on that point.
Green card post, Smurphy!
Life is singular in its meaning. Of course you value human life above others, you're human. I would be willing to bet the dog feels differently. The difference in canines and humans is the human propensity to kill without guilt or reason.
I can think of many other differences. Dogs are terrible handicappers for one - worse than the average madjacker even. Remember Mr. Mel? Worst NFL capper I've ever seen.
This is true, but I will say one thing for Mr. Mel. He was certainly the second fluffiest capper, behind Nole of course.
so sad. another child killed by these dogs.
http://www.abc3340.com/story/25176424/st-clair-county-child-killed-in-dog-attack
http://www.abc3340.com/story/25176424/st-clair-county-child-killed-in-dog-attack
The dog, which Riverside Mayor Rusty Jessup described as a pit bull, has since been quarantined while an investigation continues.
I wonder if this will be another "That dog never attacked anyone. It was a great dog. Something must have snapped. Blah blah."
Guess we'll see.
Where's the golden retriever maulings? Oh, that's right, there must not be any deadbeat golden owners, they are all perfect dog leaders.
