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Was looking at the link to health and noticed deaths by smoking and deaths by aids.
You have gov and attorneys suing the hell out of tobacco companys on one hand and promoting the hell out of gays rights on the other.--go figure:shrug:
You have gov and attorneys suing the hell out of tobacco companys on one hand and promoting the hell out of gays rights on the other.--go figure:shrug:
I dont see gay rights as much of a issue with all the larger issues we have. I see health care cost as one of the largest. They keep gong with rate hikes as they have been. You will have national insurance with in 4 to 6 years. The one thing that is very confusing. Is to have your health care provider say they had to raise there rates 8 to 9% witch was just the case in my neck of the woods. The insurance company I go through that allowes me to go with that provider just upped me 24%. Reason given was the health care provider just up there rates. Ya who is taken the other 15% off the top. When asked at a open mting two weeks a go by yours truley. Answer was thats seems out of line we will have to get back to you on that. Im still waiting. I cant wait to see the BS reply. If I ever get one.
"IF" there is ever National Healthcare you will still be paying, believe me and for inferior care. Ask our Canadian friends. They are having mega probs funding medicare have you any remote comprehension what they would have with National Health Care.
You per chance know the main proponant causing increase, I'll give you a clue it is same enity that is forcing doctors to raise their fees to retain same earning power as in the past. Its called the trickle down effect. I keep telling you all this litigation cost is past on to the consumer. When hospital and doctors liabilty coverage goes thru the roof as do judgements,those cost have
to be passed on for them to stay afloat.--and what about the pharmacutical companys,think there is no consumer cost passed on on from litigation cost? Digest this little nugget, then put the blame where it belongs.
The Cost of Lawsuits
"Lawyer advertising seeking to gather up claimants has become endemic - on television, radio billboards and the Internet. One of the nation's largest legal-advertising agencies, Network Affiliates, reported that one-third of its $20 million in legal billings in 2001 came from pharmaceutical litigation ads, up from roughly 1 percent 10 years ago. (Source: "See You In Court" Desert News, September 8, 2002)"
It cost peanuts to have child in China. Why no litgation cost.
Doctors don't have to pay 40 to 70 thousand in malpractice insurance and neither do clinics and hospitals.
The irony is these juries want to award millions on bullshit then
when their premiums go up.
and on a different tangent-----
You know what factors make aids such a killer disease and spread like wildfire. Its time period from being diagnosed till death can be many years and I can not think of another disease in the history of mankind that confirmed carriers of a deadly communicable disease can travel anywhere,to any country, at will, and further propagate a disease. How many people can 1 person effect over 10 year period??
You per chance know the main proponant causing increase, I'll give you a clue it is same enity that is forcing doctors to raise their fees to retain same earning power as in the past. Its called the trickle down effect. I keep telling you all this litigation cost is past on to the consumer. When hospital and doctors liabilty coverage goes thru the roof as do judgements,those cost have
to be passed on for them to stay afloat.--and what about the pharmacutical companys,think there is no consumer cost passed on on from litigation cost? Digest this little nugget, then put the blame where it belongs.
The Cost of Lawsuits
"Lawyer advertising seeking to gather up claimants has become endemic - on television, radio billboards and the Internet. One of the nation's largest legal-advertising agencies, Network Affiliates, reported that one-third of its $20 million in legal billings in 2001 came from pharmaceutical litigation ads, up from roughly 1 percent 10 years ago. (Source: "See You In Court" Desert News, September 8, 2002)"
It cost peanuts to have child in China. Why no litgation cost.
Doctors don't have to pay 40 to 70 thousand in malpractice insurance and neither do clinics and hospitals.
The irony is these juries want to award millions on bullshit then
when their premiums go up.and on a different tangent-----
You know what factors make aids such a killer disease and spread like wildfire. Its time period from being diagnosed till death can be many years and I can not think of another disease in the history of mankind that confirmed carriers of a deadly communicable disease can travel anywhere,to any country, at will, and further propagate a disease. How many people can 1 person effect over 10 year period??
Average is $132,000 for all law suites. So even though we see the 3, 5, 7 million dollars awards. There are many many more at less then $50000. And 98% of those big ones seem to be needed for the large Screw ups. Sad as it may seem many by same doc more then once or twice. We seem to have the case insurance blames the courts. Hospital blames the insurance. No one tells the Doc to practice alittle better. Or maybe keep records a little better. Then when it says take off right leg they dont take of left leg. It's like the drugs why are they so cheep in Canada. Canada does not seem to have the price of research in there drugs. Drugs most be ok or they all would be dieing. And in my town I dont see any broke hospitals. Not at all just new buldings going up all the time. I wonder who keeps paying for all that buliding. DTB to easy to just say it's all caused by law suites. Insurance companies play the game to well. But I dont think the American public is completey fooled.
djv:
Respectfully disagree. The american public is, has been and probably will be fooled by these conmen and spin artists. Dogs and his ilk have been spreading lies for many years. They got tort reform passed in numerous states. You know the old saying, if you keep telling people the moon is made of cheese, people will start believing it. Thats what our friendly insurance agent continues to do with his never-ending rant about lawsuits.
Hell, guys like Dogs got 1/2 the country believing the imbecile in DC is the good guy. Shows what spin, lies and repeating the same old mantra can do. Also shows that the average American is about as bright and intuitive as your average cocker spaniel.
God, I wish he would just shut up.
Ed
Respectfully disagree. The american public is, has been and probably will be fooled by these conmen and spin artists. Dogs and his ilk have been spreading lies for many years. They got tort reform passed in numerous states. You know the old saying, if you keep telling people the moon is made of cheese, people will start believing it. Thats what our friendly insurance agent continues to do with his never-ending rant about lawsuits.
Hell, guys like Dogs got 1/2 the country believing the imbecile in DC is the good guy. Shows what spin, lies and repeating the same old mantra can do. Also shows that the average American is about as bright and intuitive as your average cocker spaniel.
God, I wish he would just shut up.
Ed
eddie there you go again, trying out your new stand up material here at MJ's.
This is about as stupid as usual, but not quite up to your hilarious standards.:nono:
This is about as stupid as usual, but not quite up to your hilarious standards.:nono:
Ctown, or should I call you Sybil.
Your a barking derelick from Cleveland,
who lives in southern California,
who has a Miami Redhawks avatar,
who cites the Ohio State coaches record against Michigan in his signature line?
I'm about as confused as you apparently are.
Ed
Your a barking derelick from Cleveland,
who lives in southern California,
who has a Miami Redhawks avatar,
who cites the Ohio State coaches record against Michigan in his signature line?
I'm about as confused as you apparently are.
Ed
Eddie You better look up up the word spin. While I give facts and supporting data you continue to give opinion.Which is spin??
----and while on the issue would you like to reply to
The Cost of Lawsuits
"Lawyer advertising seeking to gather up claimants has become endemic - on television, radio billboards and the Internet. One of the nation's largest legal-advertising agencies, Network Affiliates, reported that one-third of its $20 million in legal billings in 2001 came from pharmaceutical litigation ads, up from roughly 1 percent 10 years ago. (Source: "See You In Court" Desert News, September 8, 2002
DJV I'll post this one more time for you.---and may I make a suggestion if that is really your view. Drop all of your insurance and give Eddie a $10 retainer fee to handle any risk you do not wish to cover.Think of all the money you will save----
"The cost of lawsuits in the U.S. amounts to a "lawsuit tax" of $1,200 for every man, woman and child in America. This is the cost added to the price of goods and services that you pay for as a result of litigation, settlements and liability insurance"
----and while on the issue would you like to reply to
The Cost of Lawsuits
"Lawyer advertising seeking to gather up claimants has become endemic - on television, radio billboards and the Internet. One of the nation's largest legal-advertising agencies, Network Affiliates, reported that one-third of its $20 million in legal billings in 2001 came from pharmaceutical litigation ads, up from roughly 1 percent 10 years ago. (Source: "See You In Court" Desert News, September 8, 2002
DJV I'll post this one more time for you.---and may I make a suggestion if that is really your view. Drop all of your insurance and give Eddie a $10 retainer fee to handle any risk you do not wish to cover.Think of all the money you will save----
"The cost of lawsuits in the U.S. amounts to a "lawsuit tax" of $1,200 for every man, woman and child in America. This is the cost added to the price of goods and services that you pay for as a result of litigation, settlements and liability insurance"
If that is true DTB that cost has been added in over the years. Not just added in this year or last. And still does not answer the question of. Why insurance two year's in a row has upped it's rate more then double of the health care provider. Someone is stealing or lieing.
