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I am surprised to see so many on Florida. It looks like many are buying into the media hype that Florida is for real. I don't buy it. Florida and Leak have been listening to media tooting their horn the last few weeks saying they are good and Leak is good like Alex Smith etc. That is not true though. Florida snuck by South Carolina, FSU, Arkansas late in the season. Leak is not Alex Smith and not anywhere near clutch in my opinion. In the meantime, OSU completely dominated Michigan except for 2 absolute fluke muffed snaps by the center they would have won by 14-17. Don't see a close game tonight.
 

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Florida's last 7 games

Florida's last 7 games

Oct 14 @Auburn Lost 17-27
Oct 28 Georgia Won 21-14
Nov 4 @Vanderbilt Won 25-19
Nov 11 South Carolina Won 17-16
Nov 18 Western Carolina Won 62-0
Nov 25 @Florida St. Won 21-14
Dec 2 Arkansas Won 38-28

Not real impressive. Especially if you watched the games. They could've lost one or two of those wins. SC had them beat at the swamp but choked.
 

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A little bonus favoring Florida was that they had the toughest strength of schedule in the country while Ohio State had SOS #37.

I also think OSU caught Texas at a good time but they did dominate Michigan. I'll definitely give them that. Regardless of how they fared in the Rose Bowl there is no denying that Michigan is a very good team with a bad coach.

Thing is tho...maybe Florida was struggling to squeak by those aforementioned opponents because there were difficult teams showing up on the schedule week after week. Their only loss was @ Auburn in a game where their defense didn't give up a single offensive touchdown. Pretty impressive.

I also tend to think that all those close games that Florida was in would benefit them if the game tonite comes down to the wire.

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I am surprised to see so many on Florida. It looks like many are buying into the media hype that Florida is for real. I don't buy it. Florida and Leak have been listening to media tooting their horn the last few weeks saying they are good and Leak is good like Alex Smith etc. That is not true though. Florida snuck by South Carolina, FSU, Arkansas late in the season. Leak is not Alex Smith and not anywhere near clutch in my opinion. In the meantime, OSU completely dominated Michigan except for 2 absolute fluke muffed snaps by the center they would have won by 14-17. Don't see a close game tonight.


Yeah, and Michigan proved how dominant they are. :142smilie :nono:
 

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that is where people got this game all wrong. just b/c michigan lost a bowl game they had no interest in playing you shouldn't discredit that win for OSU. Florida loses to arkansas if not for a double reverse fake punt on their own 17 on fouth & 20. they got the first but still had to punt which was muffed for a td.... leak made several catastrophic errors in the SEC championship game, i would expect nothing less tonite. You can't tell me you think the arkansas D is better than the OSU D, i mean really. I'm an sec guy who attended the championship game (even though i'm a uga fan) & have to think florida is a fraud. The last team they played w/ an O line like OSU's, Auburn, ran over florida & Auburn doesn't even have a qb. Careful florida backers, i honestly think this line was set to intentionally keep vegas from taking a big hit on OSU, a team on one of the most unbelievable ATS runs in modern college football history. Play florida at your own risk.
 

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Auburn ran all over Florida? Auburn scored 0, yes zero offensive td's in that game. Ohio St. is on one of the most unbelievable ATS runs in college football history? Put down the pipe dude, they are 9-3 ATS. Also, USC was in just as big a letdown situation as UM was in that Rose Bowl, Michigan just got beat and bad.
 

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I disagree that USC lacked motivation in that game

I disagree that USC lacked motivation in that game

That rose bowl was in their back yard and they were a 2 loss team with something to prove and no claim that they should be in Nat'l Champ game. Mich on the otherhand felt they should have been in the big game and had more reason to feel slighted and lack motivation. Ohio State took Mich's best shot and Mich had no answer. Mich's defense was ranked awesome too going into the Ohio St game. I strongly believe that OSU's offense cannot be stopped. If not, then tell me how FL will stop it. Their secondary is a joke beside Nelson. OSU has two professional grade RBs and FL won't be able to run the ball, at least not between the tackles.
 

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auburn clearly controlled both lines of scrimmage in that game. As for OSU, they ARE on one of the best ATS runs in a long long time. They covered the last 7 straight of 05 -06 (9-3 ats 05-06) making them 16-3 ats their last 19 games w/ one of those being the michigan backdoor....
 

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that is where people got this game all wrong. just b/c michigan lost a bowl game they had no interest in playing you shouldn't discredit that win for OSU. Florida loses to arkansas if not for a double reverse fake punt on their own 17 on fouth & 20. they got the first but still had to punt which was muffed for a td.... leak made several catastrophic errors in the SEC championship game, i would expect nothing less tonite. You can't tell me you think the arkansas D is better than the OSU D, i mean really. I'm an sec guy who attended the championship game (even though i'm a uga fan) & have to think florida is a fraud. The last team they played w/ an O line like OSU's, Auburn, ran over florida & Auburn doesn't even have a qb. Careful florida backers, i honestly think this line was set to intentionally keep vegas from taking a big hit on OSU, a team on one of the most unbelievable ATS runs in modern college football history. Play florida at your own risk.

Michigan had no interest in playing? Couldnt you say the same thing for USC? UM better have been up for that game, when is the last time they won a BCS game? USC should have been the team that saw the rose bowl as a letdown, seeing they have been to 3 national championshps in the last 4 years.

If you didnt see the Ark bowl game, their defense is very, very good. That was the first time Wisky was held to negative yards rushing in a very long time (cant remember the exact number, but its years)...

You are also not taking in a lot of factors into account, like Florida being a lot more battle tested in close games than OSU...and Urban Meyer is a fantastic coach that will have him and his team ready to play tonight.

As said a million times, I am not impressed with any of Ohio States wins, including an overrated Michigan squad (and a texas team starting a Frosh QB)...that goes all the way back to Notre Dame to finish the season last year. Florida's win over LSU was much better than anything OSU accomplished IMO.

I realize they only play the teams on the schedule, but the big 10 didnt impress me at all, except Penn State's defense (who Ohio State had a very tough time against). Floridas definitely rivals Penn States defense.
 

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Ohio States defense is giving up more yards per game, more yards rushing, more yards per rush than Florida's defense and Florida played a much much tougher schedule. Ohio State's schedule is a joke and the one ranked team they played their defense got torched. We will see who has the better defense tonight.
 

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Florida is a second tier team. LSU handed that game to Florida on a silver platter early in the season. LSU would dominate Gators if they were playing them in Arizona tonight.
 

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Ohio States defense is giving up more yards per game, more yards rushing, more yards per rush than Florida's defense and Florida played a much much tougher schedule. Ohio State's schedule is a joke and the one ranked team they played their defense got torched. We will see who has the better defense tonight.


txag - you are a smart man, we have the same view of the game - good luck
 

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Florida is a second tier team. LSU handed that game to Florida on a silver platter early in the season. LSU would dominate Gators if they were playing them in Arizona tonight.

And if my aunt had nuts she be my uncle. They didnt beat them. And Florida made their share of mistakes as well, including 2 turnovers and allowing a safety.

The Gators averaged 5.1 yards per play, which was better than the Tigers 4.8...not to mention they picked off possible #1 pick Jamarcus Russell 3 times.
 

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OSU gameplan will be real simple

OSU gameplan will be real simple

Offense-come out running the spread offense, maybe even no huddle, and pass first to set up the run all game long.

Defense-shut down Wynn and running game, and force leak to make plays. One Leak turnover and the wheels come off for Florida.
 

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Russell has potential and everything, but at the college level Troy Smith is the better player based on his mobility. Plus, the guy does not **** up during big games.
 

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Michigan had no interest in playing? Couldnt you say the same thing for USC? UM better have been up for that game, when is the last time they won a BCS game? USC should have been the team that saw the rose bowl as a letdown, seeing they have been to 3 national championshps in the last 4 years.

If you didnt see the Ark bowl game, their defense is very, very good. That was the first time Wisky was held to negative yards rushing in a very long time (cant remember the exact number, but its years)...

You are also not taking in a lot of factors into account, like Florida being a lot more battle tested in close games than OSU...and Urban Meyer is a fantastic coach that will have him and his team ready to play tonight.

As said a million times, I am not impressed with any of Ohio States wins, including an overrated Michigan squad (and a texas team starting a Frosh QB)...that goes all the way back to Notre Dame to finish the season last year. Florida's win over LSU was much better than anything OSU accomplished IMO.

I realize they only play the teams on the schedule, but the big 10 didnt impress me at all, except Penn State's defense (who Ohio State had a very tough time against). Floridas definitely rivals Penn States defense.

yeah i know what you mean, beating vandy by 6, so. carolina by 1 and fsu by 7 is impressive...all the last month of the season...Fla's win over lsu was not impressive as you say, they were outgained yardage wise with LSU turning the ball over 5 times, but it was still a win they earned.........Fla winning tonite would include Ohio state turning the ball over 3 to 4 times, it can happen, but not sure it will

personally i think the under is the play
 

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Ohio States defense is giving up more yards per game, more yards rushing, more yards per rush than Florida's defense and Florida played a much much tougher schedule. Ohio State's schedule is a joke and the one ranked team they played their defense got torched. We will see who has the better defense tonight.

wow, ohio st gives up a whopping 5 more yards per game.........19 more rushing yards per game but still under 100, how about Fla gives up more passing yards per game, or that ohio st scores 8 more a game and gives up 3 pts less

its all stats and they all mean something differently to someone else.........looking at the offenses these teams faced, the avg ranking is almost identical..........so to say the teams Fla faced have the hands down better offenses is a misconception

again, i think the under is the better play........not crazy about either side
 

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I am surprised to see so many on Florida. It looks like many are buying into the media hype that Florida is for real. I don't buy it. Florida and Leak have been listening to media tooting their horn the last few weeks saying they are good and Leak is good like Alex Smith etc. That is not true though. Florida snuck by South Carolina, FSU, Arkansas late in the season. Leak is not Alex Smith and not anywhere near clutch in my opinion. In the meantime, OSU completely dominated Michigan except for 2 absolute fluke muffed snaps by the center they would have won by 14-17. Don't see a close game tonight.

Agree w/ 100%...

Don't fall into the "Gator Trap"

Cheers to the Bucks!
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Not happy to see you like the under Dice as you have been pretty solid all bowl season. Seeing how fast that track was during OU/BSU, I just think it's wide open for a lot of big plays tonight. Both teams will need to pressure the opposing QB, especially FLA, and that leaves a lot of oppty for some big plays.

I have watched the Buckeyes every game this year, and Florida about 4 or 5 times. I agree that the Bucks have not played the schedule that Fla has, but look what they've done with the teams they've played. On the road alone, they won by at least 17 points, other than Illinois, their annual let up game, only to come back and wax NW by 36 at NW. At home, UM was by the far the best test, and the analysis of that game has beaten like a dead horse. All of the other games weren't close, and the Bucks could of won each game by a lot more than they did.

But how many great Offense's did Fla go against this year? LSU, yes, but very arguable that Russell didn't start playing well until the last half of the season. I think you can use a similar excuse for OSU vs. Texas. Ark, well analyzed on this board about their lack of passing game. Who else? Tenn? Ky?

The only D to somewhat stop OSU this year was PSU. The game was played in sloppy track, and Troy opened the game with an interception, and I think Tressel went conservative once he realized PSU couldn't move the ball, resulting in a tightly played game. Or maybe he felt sorry for Jo Pa as that was the game that he had the shites.

That won't be the case tonight. Tressel will open it up, and let Troy Smith do his thing. Also like how people seem to forget about Pittman and Ginn. Fla won't be the only team to throw trick plays out tonight. Ginn has a pretty good arm and it wouldn't surprise me to see a big play from a reverse pass from OSU's side.

Good luck all.
 
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