a quick poll--need some input

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hey krames,

do you have any thoughts of your own on this subject ... i have never heard what you think happened that day other than attack me like most sheaple ...

you are right judge, i assume anyone who wont answer the simple questions of 9/11 must support Bush, esp. a texan, my bad if thats the case ... but why dont you try to face these basic things other than your assertions you know more than all these other architectural experts ...

now, about all the eplosions in the wtcs, have you ever heard anyone, fdny and emt or police, say there werent explosions :shrug: --please show me if im wrong ... highly respected and decorated brave men have testified in droves they heard explosions and believe bombs were planted ...

why did the CIA created ISI wire 100k to atta :shrug: ... why wont the gov. release the flight 77 wreckage to the public ... why did the PM experts back out of their debate on THE VIEW with the LOOSE CHANGE KIDS ...

gosh i dunno, krames and judge, i just have all these questions for suckers who cant answer them :shrug:
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do you have any thoughts of your own on this subject or do you just cut and paste garbage from other "truthers"?

I'm willing to bet that PM declined to show up for talks with the loose change people because they dont have much interest in being victims of the methods that those people use to attack people.

when buildings fall down, things go boom.
I fully believe that very loud explosions were heard during the collapse.
Does an explosion ONLY equal a bomb going off? hardly.

what about jet fuel running down elevator shafts and then igniting? doesn't that cause an explosion?
 
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OK you state that as a fact with no back up. Just a statement .

Now look at this. Arbusto Energy
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Arbusto Energy (sometimes referred to as Arbusto Oil)[1] was a petroleum and energy company formed in Midland, Texas, in 1977, by the President of the United States George W. Bush and a group of investors which included Dorothy Bush, Lewis Lehrman, William Henry Draper III, Bill Gammell, and James R. Bath.

It was later revealed that Bath made an investment of $50,000 while representing Salem bin Laden of the Saudi Binladin Group.

This fact became controversial after the September 11, 2001 attacks due to Salem bin Laden being an older, half-brother of Osama bin Laden, who has claimed responsibility for the planning and financing of the attacks. The Bush family's business dealings with the bin Laden family were criticized by many; a small group allege that the Bush/bin Laden business relationship led to Osama bin Laden being groomed as a CIA asset.[2]

Upon Salem bin Laden's death in a 1988 airplane crash, in Texas, his interest in Arbusto (along with other Binladin Group assets), passed to Khalid bin Mahfouz.
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FACT

This was the oil business for christs sake. Its not unusual to be dealing with rich Saudis .

So Salem Bin Laden did not found Arbusto Energy , he just contributed 50 K through someone else.

Now thats a little differant. Mav . Do you see how words are twisted around ? Thats what makes me so skeptical about truthers. These are not facts your listing.

ok answer that and we can move on
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No matter whether the guy contributed money or whatever............this should have been disclosed right off the bat..........and there are a helluva LOT of other rich saudis not named Bin Laden........

Dont you think its a little coincendental that a Bin Laden brother was in Texas connected to Arbusto energy of all companies!!!!!.........again..........just a little bit to coincidental for me...........

You can call me a truther or whatever..........I dont really feel like you can catagorize people anyhow but it makes a person wonder when AFTER the days of 911 a LOT of these people have some ties to each other.............:shrug:
 
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kay griggs, jarhead ... i dont read your tripe but by the amount of blocked posts i c in here maybe you should go back and listen to the 3-hour version of sodomy then come back and deny it all ... right up to the white house perverts who flew in children from boystown, or did i make all that up too:nono: :SIB
 
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I thought this was a thread about WTC?

request moving this thread to the dumpster because pt1gard consistently mentions and accusses people of pedophilia with no hard facts to back it up.
 
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fair radio debate on wtcs collapse

fair radio debate on wtcs collapse

click

www.911underground.com

scroll to

2007-11-12_Richard_Gage_Debates_Ron_Craig_on_Richard_Syrett_Show.MP3


now since judgy aligned gage with quacks, listen yourself and see what is supposed to be a fair debate with an official story expert ... maybe judgy coulda done better ... sheaple weigh the evidence, and those on the fence see what you think:mj07:
 
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gage blasted on amazon

gage blasted on amazon

then his critic exposed as a shill :142smilie :mj07:


Ronald Wieck says:
Gage recycles all the thoroughly debunked canards conspiracy liars have been peddling for years. Will the latest kid on the fantasist block actually be willing to debate anyone who can expose his snake oil? Don't hold your breath.

Reply to Ronald Wieck's post:

Kameelyun says:
Ronald "Pomeroo" Wieck:

Not only are you a "shill," you are a hypocrite as well. When I watched the "off-air" footage with yourself, Roberts, and the Loose Change crew, you said, politely: "One thing that really bugs me [addressing Avery and Bermas] is when people call each other liars and shills" and so forth. Well, why is it that when you post as "pomeroo" on JREF or when you post silly comments on forums like this, you refer to the truth movement as "liars" and its claims as "canards" which we have been "peddling." In fact, the word "peddling" is also right out of Jim Meigs' mouth. You are the ultimate hypocrite, sir.

You also refer to us as fantasists, and, as is the vogue for JREF, "twoofers." With regard to your moniker and description on the JREF forum, even your self-description of "unpaid gubmint shill" is something of an untruth, given that SOMEONE must have given you a paycheck for these Hardfire shows in which you invite people on your show, including Rodriguez (who declined), for the sole purpose of debunking them. I'm sure you were paid for the episodes Mark Roberts was on. I also imagine you get paid for contributing to the right-wing magazine "American Thinker," in which you call Michael Moore a socialist America-hater. Regardless of WHO is paying you, and obviously your paycheck is coming from various private-sector employers in journalism, etc., you are shamelessly shilling for the government's official version of the 9/11 attacks, and as Griffin shows in the present book, it is the "debunking attempts" on behalf of Popular Mechanics which are the canards that have been thoroughly debunked.

Why don't you give your conscience a good look in the mirror and step over to the correct side of history.
 
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HMMMM

700 BONE FRAGMENTS BLASTED FROM WTCS ONTO THE DEUTSCHE BANK ROOFTOP ACROSS THE STREET FROM TOWERS. THEY WERE MATCHED TO VICTIMS. THE PIECES WERE A HALF INCH LONG.:shrug:

I GUESS THEY JUST FLOATED ALONG WITH COLUMNS GOING 55 MPH THAT HARPOONED INTO THE FED X BUILDING.:shrug:
 
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a marine with a brain, wtf hehe

a marine with a brain, wtf hehe

here are many marines with a brain unlike the gomer cliche in this thread :142smilie


click

www.911underground.com

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2007-05-21_Marines_Take_Action_for_9-11_Truth.MP3


:shrug: :shrug: :shrug:
 
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great program archive

great program archive

talks about stolen nukes and murders and other 9/11 lies .... first hour is awesome and scary

click this

http://216.240.133.177/Barrett/07/


scroll to

NOV 17th 2007
Guest: Dave Lindor - Discussion on mainstream media and the lies they spread through television.
 
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