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judgy come on back and explain this?

judgy come on back and explain this?

you are a charlatan gatekeeper yourself and you know it ... dispute all this why dont you, mr. expert :mj07: i mean you know more than all these others:shrug:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LRDDHzc2bg&eurl=http://911blogger.com/node/14062


Engineer Sees Evidence of Extreme Temperatures in WTC Steel
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Submitted by Shoestring on Mon, 02/25/2008 - 3:31pm.
World Trade Center debris

A structural engineer who was a member of the team assembled by the American Society of Civil Engineers to investigate the World Trade Center site after 9/11 has described numerous phenomena indicating extremely high temperatures suffered by the WTC structural steel. This appears to be further evidence that high-temperature explosives, such as thermate, were used to bring down the towers.

Dr. Abolhassan Astaneh-Asl is a professor of civil and environmental engineering at the University of California at Berkeley, who specializes in studying structural damage done by earthquakes and terrorist bombings. He flew to New York on September 19, 2001 to conduct a two-week reconnaissance of the collapsed towers, hoping to gain an understanding of how they'd come down. He was able to examine numerous pieces of steel taken from Ground Zero. [1]

He said the towers were exceptionally well designed and built, describing the WTC as "the best-designed building I have ever seen." [2] Yet the structural steel had suffered unusual warping and other major damage:

Astaneh-Asl said that steel flanges "had been reduced from an inch thick to paper thin." [3]

At a recycling center in New Jersey, he saw 10-ton steel beams from the towers that "looked like giant sticks of twisted licorice." [4] He showed the San Francisco Chronicle a "banana-shaped, rust-colored piece of steel" that had somehow "twisted like toffee during the terrorist attack." [5]
He noted the way steel from the WTC had bent at several connection points that had joined the floors to the vertical columns. He described the connections as being smoothly warped, saying, "If you remember the Salvador Dali paintings with the clocks that are kind of melted--it's kind of like that." He added, "That could only happen if you get steel yellow hot or white hot--perhaps around 2,000 degrees." [6]
In an interview in 2007, Astaneh-Asl recalled, "I saw melting of girders in [the] World Trade Center." [7]
He found a foot-long twisted shard of steel that was "like a piece of bread, but it was high-strength steel." He commented, "I haven't seen anything like this [before]." [8]
He came across "severely scorched [steel] members from 40 or so floors below the points of impact [by the planes]." [9]
The fireproofing that had been used to protect the WTC steel also showed evidence of extreme conditions. In some places it had "melted into a glassy residue." [10]
Astaneh-Asl saw a charred I-beam from WTC Building 7--a 47-story skyscraper that collapsed late in the afternoon of 9/11, even though no plane hit it. "The beam, so named because its cross-section looks like a capital I, had clearly endured searing temperatures. Parts of the flat top of the I, once five-eighths of an inch thick, had vaporized." [11]
These observations indicate that the World Trade Center steel was subjected to very high temperatures. Yet, while postulating that the towers collapsed due to fire (and without the use of explosives), even Thomas Eagar--an engineering professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology--admitted, "The temperature of the fire at the WTC was not unusual, and it was most definitely not capable of melting steel." [12] One must conclude that the phenomena observed by Astaneh-Asl are therefore highly suspicious.

It may well have been because it offered such revealing clues that the remaining structural steel from the World Trade Center was so rapidly destroyed, being shipped abroad as scrap to be melted down and recycled. CBS News described: "The [cleanup] operation--which began days after the collapse, okayed by then-New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani--goes on 24 hours a day, seven days a week. As a result, Astaneh has almost certainly missed seeing crucial pieces before they were cut up and sent overseas." [13] As the New York Times reported, the steel scrap was worth "only a few million dollars, a tiny fraction of the billions of dollars the cleanup" was going to cost. Yet the knowledge that could have been gained from it "could save lives in a future disaster." [14]



heres the entire thread and more vids proving jets could have not brought down the buildings to anyone who isnt a sheaple or neocon and open minded :00hour

http://911blogger.com/node/14062
 

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hey sheaple, babs olson lies exposed

hey sheaple, babs olson lies exposed

hey jar head,

dare listen to this and tell me your neocon coverup conspiracy POV:mj07:

you are such a sucker it amuses me:00hour



course you will duck this as always bc you are a plant



click this ...

http://911blogger.com/node/14039

scroll down to 3rd entry and click the mp3 audio from goyette, who earlier exposed your precious PM lies, and listen at 35-minute mark and prepare to wet yourself ... maybe your hillbilly pal can think you out of your debacle with a trailer park full of pictures :142smilie
 
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you've figured me out king donkey.

i'm not just an ordinary guy. I was told by the government to come to this message board over 10 years ago and start posting because in the future they would need me to post erroneous information to help try to cover up the 9/11 attack. I'm a plant. yup.

Now you are bringing the USS Cole into this and believing it was an inside job too?

grow up.


Seriously, when is this thread going in the dumpster? He's SHITTING all over people who have died in uniform.
 

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hey woosy, answer some questions and quit whining, you started the name calling months ago and now you cant take the heat, call up the reinforcements with hillbilly and judge who uses nonsense saying the wtcs werent exploded while their girders shot 500' and cars melted blocks away :mj07:
 

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Well duh, how else are they going to blow up a tank?


some of the babies shown had common birth defects not caused by radiation, but diseases like hydrochephalus, harlequin ichthyosis, cleft palate, etc..google them and you will see these human deformities have been around since before the nuclear age.

A recent United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP) report giving field measurements taken around selected impact sites in Kosovo (Federal Republic of Yugoslavia) indicates that contamination by DU in the environment was localized to a few tens of metres around impact sites. Contamination by DU dusts of local vegetation and water supplies was found to be extremely low. Thus, the probability of significant exposure to local populations was considered to be very low.About 98% of uranium entering the body via ingestion is not absorbed, but is eliminated via the faeces. Typical gut absorption rates for uranium in food and water are about 2% for soluble and about 0.2% for insoluble uranium compounds.
The fraction of uranium absorbed into the blood is generally greater following inhalation than following ingestion of the same chemical form. The fraction will also depend on the particle size distribution. For some soluble forms, more than 20% of the inhaled material could be absorbed into blood.
Of the uranium that is absorbed into the blood, approximately 70% will be filtered by the kidney and excreted in the urine within 24 hours; this amount increases to 90% within a few days.
 

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so you are saying that the DU is neccesarry and that it doesnt affect the birth defects and doesnt stay in soil for thousands of years and it doesnt cause usa military guinea pigs to have major medical problems :shrug:

you kill me, shill:142smilie
 

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so you are saying that the DU is neccesarry and that it doesnt affect the birth defects and doesnt stay in soil for thousands of years and it doesnt cause usa military guinea pigs to have major medical problems :shrug:

you kill me, shill:142smilie

I'm saying that the effects of DU are hyped up on that little crap video by using children with diseases not caused by exposure to DU.

While DU contains some radiation, the effects are nowhere as bad as you hippies make it out to be.
 

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why do so many disagree with you ... and lets put shoe on other foot, say another nation came into AMERICA and started spreading DU all around the USA's soil bc these shells can eat through tanks, would you be "cool" with it?

and thats not to mention we are murdering 90% + innocents and the birth defect rate has gone up 10 fold since your trusty military neocons have started using this pernicious product ...


you truly are a twisted specimen for downplaying such a sinister thing as radiation ... ive posted other studies completely disagreeing with you, and there are plenty of ex-miliitary that agree with my POV, research it yourself
 

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you never answer the tough ones, i.e kay griggs and your beloved regiment; babs olson, ad infinitum, and if youd ever want to match vocabs, i'd destroy you like i have on this thread :mj07:
 

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Donkey,

Because I havent taken the time to type it out and prove ALL your ramblings wrong, doesn't mean it is right.

I'd say I am batting pretty close to 1.000 lately knocking your spin and lies out of the park.

Can't wait to see what your next topic of truth is. I've got $20 riding with a buddy that I know what it is going to be.
 

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you have not hit a softball question yet ... the IDs floating out of nowhere at wtcs and shanksville and the london bombings same MO with IDs coincidentally appearing ... you are a stooge, admit it :mj07:

address those, you equivocating poltroon
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Provide some type of rebuttal for the ones I have addressed once.

You know, rector 19, the flash of light as the plane hits the tower, or even just the potty talk you call facts.

Stop dodging science.
 

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weve done this dance, you have not answered any of the ones i have wanted and i have repeatedly addressed yours, you idiot, i told you you can have your dogs and rector bc they mean nothing, now address mine ... why are you such a blind moron who supports the neocons ... you amuse me and waste time as usual, you believe all the kean report, so why do you bother ... kay griggs speaks the truth on your marine life and its scrambled your brain:mj07:
 
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