a quick poll--need some input

[marine]

as the buddhists say, 'question everything,' including their own doctrine.


http://www.911docs.net/

peace out
gregg

yep, here it is.

man, amazing what I can recall. You'd think I had read your posts or something rather than just casually glance over them and type the word "idiot" into the reply box.

 

[pt1gard]

shill this, jarhead

shill this, jarhead

http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...=28&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=7



so why cant you answer ANYTHING ... you cant bc you have nothing ... when have you ever answered anything, ever ... :00hour


can jets vaporize? :shrug:

 

[marine]

i'm still waiting for all my previously asked basic questions to be answered before i go ripping apart another one of your homemade videos.
I can't get too far ahead here, otherwise you might think you can slide and not answer any of my other basic questions.

 

[MrSammo1]

Shanksville lie...

Shanksville lie...

Great video.

But then again.......what do experts in the field of aviation know?

 

[marine]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...=28&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=7



so why cant you answer ANYTHING ... you cant bc you have nothing ... when have you ever answered anything, ever ... :00hour


can jets vaporize? :shrug:

retard, there is nothing you have asked me. Asking me "what do you think happened that day" is about fvcking worthless. Because I can respond with "i think aliens beamed down and did it" and you know what? Its not a wrong answer. You are asking what I think, I am telling you. Do I need proof of it to argue it and convince others to think the same way I do? you bet i do. and if i don't have that proof people are probably going to start thinking i am crazy.... (sound familiar?)

Asking someone, "how can you not believe the buildings were wired" is useless.

you phrase shit in such a way that the only possible way to answer it is to ignore it.
The ole "do you still beat your wife?" trick
It's childish, its pitiful, and yet it is still so very very comical.

 

[marine]

jarhead, did you take it up the ass in the corps ... telling me to jerk off? give me a break? you or scotty, the ultimate pile on stiff, run to jack whining like little girls all the time ...

you insulted me from day one, i say shit to you and you cry .. you never ever say what happened all you want to know is where i get facts ... 99% of time they are posted ... the canine deal i heard from a radio archive; TRY LISTENING TO SGT. TARTAGLIA LINK, HE TALKS ABOUT DYING DOGS TOO ... the commadant deal if the rank wasnt proper, doesnt matter, his wife said all you jarheads take it up the ass, straight from her hubby's diary--so do you or dont you?

you are such a shill and flunky, you amuse me ... hows it feel to be insulted with caustic words? you and scott and fdc get away with it all the time yet when reversed you cry and whine and run to the authorities with skid marks... so have you ever seen jarheads get sodomized ... have you ever done it, have you ever heard about it? you want all my facts answered, i think you are damaged goods and dont know reality ... the 9/11 facts are fairly cut and dried and since you worked for the military i expect you to parrot it like a good lackey ... but i am still curious, is it bc you are sexually disoriented like the white house kiddie porn perverts that you seem to defend or never comment on? trust me, i saw your pic, its something very ordinary like your brain ...

if jack wants to close the thread i dont really care, ive put in enough info to prove you and scott atlanta and 6'5 and gw are complete dumbshits ...

you say agent is my cheerleader, you make me laff, anyone that disagrees with you, you attack, just like you accuse us of ... the difference is, you have no facts, you dont answer the most basic anomalies of 9/11 .... your mindset sickens me and is what makes 9/11 possible altho when this country changes for the worse, you will prob wont even recognize it bc you are incapable of sensing climates ...

i'm saving this for posterity.

 

[pt1gard]

all you ever done mason jar is ask stupid questions that you can find on here and then you duck all of anyone else's ... again if you want to whine to jack its cool, its your M.O. bc you have nothing to back your hero's story and you cant strain lies from truth...

and one more thing, dumbshit, if people are dying like flies from your hero's edict to the epa to lie about the air quality at ground zero, you dont think dogs would die first?- ... oh of course not, that would take using your noodle logically :142smilie

heres a simple question for your limited brain ... did 19 terrorists board the planes? ive asked you specific stuff many times, but you blow it off ...

i dont care about your sexual peccadilloes so you can leave that alone

 

[marine]

all you ever done mason jar is ask stupid questions that you can find on here and then you duck all of anyone else's ... again if you want to whine to jack its cool, its your M.O. bc you have nothing to back your hero's story and you cant strain lies from truth...

and one more thing, dumbshit, if people are dying like flies from your hero's edict to the epa to lie about the air quality at ground zero, you dont think dogs would die first?- ... oh of course not, that would take using your noodle logically :142smilie

heres a simple question for your limited brain ... did 19 terrorists board the planes? ive asked you specific stuff many times, but you blow it off ...

i dont care about your sexual peccadilloes so you can leave that alone

Correct, the dogs would die first. The problem, on your end of the argument anyway, is that THE DOGS DIDNT DIE. weird huh?

and another thing, you are getting no where fast with your past method of posting shit to 'debate'. I've said it countless times before. Tossing a link to a video on here and saying "here, dispute this" is about the stupidest method i've seen at debating in years. From now one, every time you do that I will simply google the term "dumbf*ck" and post the search string as my dispute.
Yea, I know it is stupid. Its the only response to you though.


Also, when you want to show something to be false (as you do with the theory of the official story being bunk) you prove that special something to be false by putting up facts to dispute it. Facts are not questions, facts are not spun up words pulled from conversation. facts are facts. Facts are not open to intepretation.

If its on the web, it must be true.

 

[marine]

oh yea, almost forgot.

Yes, I believe that anti-US terrorists got onto planes on 11 Sept 2001 with the intent to crash them into large buildings to cause chaos and death to americans.

Do you think that 19 terrorists boarded planes on 11 Sept?

 

[pt1gard]

'of course not, they need to be on manifests and not added months/years later; why wont the airport closed circuit cameras run by mossad/zionists/bush blood release all their tapes ...

why do the 19 turn up as many alive and Mueller even admitted he wasnt sure who was who but amazingly they can find and match DNA and all their mugs and manuals in comically stashed airport car trunks and then locate evidence within hours of the hoax, then they dont know who the F these guys are as they train at usa military flight schools and come in and outta of the USA with expired passports ....

we have posted this stuff over and over and you never answer any of it ... Id bury you in a real debate and you know it ... why wont the pentagon release their 83 cameras of flight 77 that really happened? didnt you say something asinine like "curiousltiy killed the cat?" proves how much you want to know anything .... you have no intellectual capacity bc all you want to do is stonewall ... youve been asked dozens of questions and now you have answered one, you believe 19 box cutters boarded the planes, how do you know this? bc your hero said so and had shills immediately lined up on 9/11 to echo his lies ...

why dont you watch some live interviews on the morning on 9/11 where obvious shills parrot rehearsed lines that even a village idiot could decipher as plants ... the evidence is on this site and all over the net, but you refuse to view it or consider it ... is the bin laden tape admitting "He did it" real? just start with those above, see if you can actually type answers from simple direct questions, you did it once now, and it wasnt so painful ... we can see how futilely ignorant you are by saying whats in your heart and mind, marine ...

please prove me right by answering, by ducking shows what a gutless shill you are ... either way the truth researchers expose another joke.

the dogs died, dipshit, call vyzygoth and get Tartaglia's phone number--or do you need to be led by the hand and have me punch in the digits :00hour ... do you think responders arent dying? do you think GIs arent horrifically affected by DU? do you actually think about anything?:shrug:

 

[maverick2112]

Heres another pretty simple question for Marine, Six and Scott


It is physically impossible for an airliner to cause the WTC towers to collapse straight down.

QUOTE]

says who?......some chucklehead conspiracy theorist?...

you won`t believe popular mechanics but you believe some moron doing chickenwire simulations in his basement?...or rosie o`donnell?.....("fire never melted steel?")

maybe michael moore has a point....this thread could be interpreted as a pretty damning indictment of the american mental healthcare system.....`cause, if it were functional, many of these guys would surely be on some powerful antipsychotics.....

honestly,every time i check this thread out i feel like "alice" after she stepped through the looking glass...

sheesh...

Did you bother reading why the guy said what he said...............its sure easy to attack him but you fail to mention the guy points out a simple fact that its virtually impossible to find out the total amount of concrete and steel on each floor..........wonder why that is..............

 

[gardenweasel]

PT1...answer this question...if there is actually piles of physical evidence(not innuendo),why aren`t the democrats jumping all over this?...they have control of the house and senate...they`ll indict a ham sandwich.....they`re going after water boarding tapes after pelosi herself gave the o.k.....

so,why wouldn`t they jump on something that would bring bushitler and co. crashing down like a turd from a tall cow`s ass?....

i know all these fringe sites you copy and paste from must have thought that one obvious question through....and come up with some rationalization for it.....

if it was all about a reason to invade iraq(which the dems have been fighting hammer and tong against after the fact),where are they?....

and don`t cut and paste some long,arduous diatribe....

i`m asking that you utilize your able intellect and just cut to the chase.....

thank you,my brother....

/g.w.

bump...i`m waiting...

 

[maverick2112]

I listened to this radio broadcast. What lies are you talking about? The Pop Mechanics guy seemed weak to me in general as a speaker and was thusly attacked by the host at opportune times, especially when he talked about the DNA evidence of the hijackers that was found and confirmed. Maybe there is DNA? I'm not sure, but I do agree with the host it would seem it would be hard to differentiate and find in all that wreckage. However, I do disagree with the host that it would have been hard to find DNA samples from the hijackers to compare. That's not hard at all; they probably combed their hair or had dirty clothes wherever they lived. He should have pointed out that there seems to be only 1 BBC report that the hijackers are alive, and that's not confirmed nor are there any pictures or other evidence (at least that I've seen). It's akin to people seeing Elvis.

Did you listen to the audio???
What lies are you talking about???
The lie about having the DNA samples to compare the ones found in the wreckage??

Look if the idiot had samples that they found from old hair, dirty clothes, etc. etc THEN WHY THE FU*K DIDNT THE GUY SAY THAT.....
HE STUTTERED LIKE A LITTLE KID WHEN HE IS CAUGHT LYING..................

If you did any research you would have known that Popular Mechanics cancelled many more shows after this idiot was caught lying.

You have to be smarter than believing that the DNA for these terrorists were found after the fact for comparison samples.............

If you actually believe that then you have aways to go when it comes to reason............

If popular mechanics really had the DNA to compare then dont you think they would have come out with a statement to this effect instead of the silence they have showed............

 

[marine]

You're a ****ing joke with these shitbrained posts.
Do some research before you post crap like this.

9/11 Search-and-rescue Dogs Exhibit Few Effects From Exposure To Disaster Sites
ScienceDaily (Sep. 15, 2004) ? PHILADELPHIA ? The search-and-rescue dogs deployed following the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks have not suffered either immediate or short-term effects from exposure to the disaster sites, researchers from the University of Pennsylvania School of Veterinary Medicine report. The findings, presented in the Sept. 15 issue of the Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association, should help relieve fears about the after-effects of working at the 9/11 sites.

For the last three years, the Penn researchers tracked the health of dogs and handlers from the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and the Fresh Kills Landfill site on Staten Island, where debris from the World Trade Center was further searched.

"Overall, the lack of clear adverse medical or behavioral effects among the 9/11 dogs is heartening, both for the animals and the human rescue workers," said lead researcher Cynthia M. Otto, associate professor of critical care in Penn's School of Veterinary Medicine. "Since dogs age more rapidly than humans, they can serve as sentinels for human disease. We are encouraged that we do not see significant increases in cancer and respiratory diseases." The Penn researchers compared the dogs to a control group of search-and-rescue dogs that were trained similarly but not deployed. Although there is no single registry of all dogs deployed to search the 9/11 sites, the Penn researchers identified 212 deployed handlers, and 97 consented to participate.
Despite rumors of numerous deaths of 9/11 search-and-rescue dogs, only one was confirmed to have died during the search period. In addition, the study was able to demonstrate that the injuries and ill effects of the search itself were minor. After the first year of surveillance, of the 97 deployed dogs enrolled in the study, only one died. During the past three years, 15 deployed dogs have died, of which eight had cancer. At the current time, neither the death rate nor the cancer rate is different from that of the control group.

"Given the mature age of these dogs and their expected lifespan, the few deaths that did occur were not statistically significant," Otto said. "We can't say that these findings preclude illness later in life, but it is clear that we don't see any trends in the current physical or behavioral wellbeing of these dogs that would be cause for alarm."

Initially, blood tests showed that the deployed dogs exhibited higher bilirubin concentration and alkaline phosphatase activity, which indicates that their livers were actively filtering toxins from their bloodstream. The serum globulins were also higher in the first year in deployed dogs, suggesting activation of the immune system. As the study progressed, however, these numbers came down to close to those of the dogs in the control group.

"Early on, it is clear that these dogs were dealing with some stress from toxins, although we don't currently have evidence of adverse effects, continued surveillance is still warranted," Otto said.

Since there was a concern about airborne pollutants, such as asbestos, Otto and her colleagues also examined X rays taken of the dogs. The examinations showed no apparent lung abnormalities. While it usually takes humans at least 20 years to develop mesothelioma after asbestos exposure ? a major fear at all three sites ? the shorter life span of dogs often means a relatively shorter latency period for developing cancer.

To assess the psychological wellbeing of the dogs, their handlers were given questionnaires that focused on behavioral disorders, such as aggression or fearfulness, which may have arisen since 9/11. Here also the deployed dogs seemed similar to those of the control group.

An ongoing study led by Melissa Hunt of Penn's Department of Psychology is looking at the long-term psychological consequences for the human handlers.

"Since this is the first major study on search-and-rescue dogs and their handlers, we hope this data can be used to establish a baseline for future studies," Otto said. "Not only will it help ensure the health and safety of search-and-rescue dogs, but it will also help anticipate human disease as well."

Support for the study came from the AKC Canine Health Foundation, the American Kennel Club, Ralston Purina Co., the Veterinary Pet Insurance Co. and the Geraldine R. Dodge Foundation. The study also includes researchers at Michigan State University and the Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta.

Here, i posted it again for you.

apparently even more people are in on the conspiracy with this doctored paper.

 

[gardenweasel]

PT1...answer this question...if there is actually piles of physical evidence(not innuendo),why aren`t the democrats jumping all over this?...they have control of the house and senate...they`ll indict a ham sandwich.....they`re going after water boarding tapes after pelosi herself gave the o.k.....

so,why wouldn`t they jump on something that would bring bushitler and co. crashing down like a turd from a tall cow`s ass?....

i know all these fringe sites you copy and paste from must have thought that one obvious question through....and come up with some rationalization for it.....

if it was all about a reason to invade iraq(which the dems have been fighting hammer and tong against after the fact),where are they?....

and don`t cut and paste some long,arduous diatribe....

i`m asking that you utilize your able intellect and just cut to the chase.....

thank you,my brother....

/g.w.

bump...i`m waiting...

again....if this is the low hanging fruit that you guys claim it to be,where are the democrats?......

theY have congress and the house...the investigative power....

WHERE ARE THEY?

 

[gardenweasel]

again....if this is the low hanging fruit that you guys claim it to be,where are the democrats?......

theY have congress and the house...the investigative power....

WHERE ARE THEY?

o.k... i guess this obvious question doesn`t have a readily available answer....which surprises me a bit....

strategize a bit........i`ll be back for the answer...

 

[marine]

o.k... i guess this obvious question doesn`t have a readily available answer....which surprises me a bit....

strategize a bit........i`ll be back for the answer...

i've been asking that question for weeks gw.

 

[gardenweasel]

i've been asking that question for weeks gw.

i mean,the dems went crazy about katrina.....because the fed. gov`t was "slow" in responding.....

but,here we have a plot to kill our own citizens with so much "concrete"(excuse the pun)evidence available and not one democrat wants to lay a glove on the administration?.....



the joos did this so slyly that no one in this country...not the gov`t...not one dem or republican ...not the cia(which is infested with bush haters like valerie plame) had any idea that they were plotting to fly as many as 4 planes into national landmarks....and wired them to boot?....


the joos used their own suicide bombers?.....or they kidnapped all those citizens off those planes?..

or it was cooperation between the joos and some in al qaeda?....

the bin laden tape copping to the deed was faked by the culprits?...yet,he never responded to deny the accusations?....

forget about the tonage of concrete floors...none of us knows diddly about complicated physics ...much less discuss it intelligently...

what about all these obvious questions?....


i don`t want to veer off track...lets keep it simple.....

WHERE ARE THE DEMS?.....WHY AREN`T THEY ALL OVER ALL THIS EVIDENCE?.....

 

[marine]

'of course not, they need to be on manifests and not added months/years later; why wont the airport closed circuit cameras run by mossad/zionists/bush blood release all their tapes ...

why do the 19 turn up as many alive and Mueller even admitted he wasnt sure who was who but amazingly they can find and match DNA and all their mugs and manuals in comically stashed airport car trunks and then locate evidence within hours of the hoax, then they dont know who the F these guys are as they train at usa military flight schools and come in and outta of the USA with expired passports ....

we have posted this stuff over and over and you never answer any of it ... Id bury you in a real debate and you know it ... why wont the pentagon release their 83 cameras of flight 77 that really happened? didnt you say something asinine like "curiousltiy killed the cat?" proves how much you want to know anything .... you have no intellectual capacity bc all you want to do is stonewall ... youve been asked dozens of questions and now you have answered one, you believe 19 box cutters boarded the planes, how do you know this? bc your hero said so and had shills immediately lined up on 9/11 to echo his lies ...

why dont you watch some live interviews on the morning on 9/11 where obvious shills parrot rehearsed lines that even a village idiot could decipher as plants ... the evidence is on this site and all over the net, but you refuse to view it or consider it ... is the bin laden tape admitting "He did it" real? just start with those above, see if you can actually type answers from simple direct questions, you did it once now, and it wasnt so painful ... we can see how futilely ignorant you are by saying whats in your heart and mind, marine ...

please prove me right by answering, by ducking shows what a gutless shill you are ... either way the truth researchers expose another joke.

the dogs died, dipshit, call vyzygoth and get Tartaglia's phone number--or do you need to be led by the hand and have me punch in the digits :00hour ... do you think responders arent dying? do you think GIs arent horrifically affected by DU? do you actually think about anything?:shrug:

PS. Facts don't start with
Why
How come
What if

Now, on another note.... Let's play the 'what if' game that you love so dearly.

Now you are hung up on the cameras and tapes of the plane smashing into the pentagon. I tell you what, if those tapes come public and it proves to be a missile or military aircraft that slammed into the pentagon, I will go back and revise my beliefs and look to start believing a cover up.

BUT,

If those tapes are released and it is shown to be a commercial airliner that hits the pentagon that morning as has been stated... what does that do to your arguement that it is a conspiracy? Does it blow it out of the water? Or do you simply overlook it and create a new story to explain it?

You are basing your "indisputable facts" on items that are unknowns.
You dont know what is on that tape. No ifs ands or buts about it. It is unknown to you what is on them. So how can you base your thought process and 'facts' on it?
and to reiterate yet again,
"what if" is not a fact.
"why not" is not a fact
and
Hope is not a method.

 

[SixFive]

Did you listen to the audio???
What lies are you talking about???
The lie about having the DNA samples to compare the ones found in the wreckage??

Look if the idiot had samples that they found from old hair, dirty clothes, etc. etc THEN WHY THE FU*K DIDNT THE GUY SAY THAT.....
HE STUTTERED LIKE A LITTLE KID WHEN HE IS CAUGHT LYING..................

If you did any research you would have known that Popular Mechanics cancelled many more shows after this idiot was caught lying.

You have to be smarter than believing that the DNA for these terrorists were found after the fact for comparison samples.............

If you actually believe that then you have aways to go when it comes to reason............

If popular mechanics really had the DNA to compare then dont you think they would have come out with a statement to this effect instead of the silence they have showed............

I said the guy was weak, didn't I??? The story about the hijackers still being alive is even weaker though. Also, in the audio, he didn't claim to have checked the DNA. He was saying that was from the official report. Really, I'm not sure how any DNA could be found at the site, but if it was, I think it would be easy to match (the host had a problem with that).