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MrChristo

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6-1-1 posted plays.

Last 5 games for the Saints and Crows are interesting...almost identical I50's (52-49 each), almost identical scoring (2.29 - 2.27), but St. Kilda defense has fallen away (1.89) whereas the Crows has stepped up to 2.35.
(Interesting to see that they've played 3 common teams in those last 5 games too!)
Saints score better in the dome, av. 4 more I50's and 2 goals more.
As I've mentioned before, Adelaide play a much freer game away from home, av'ing nearly 12 more I50's per away game! (6 more themselves, 6 more against).
Neither team going all that well, imo...both just 2 wins of their last 5.
Crows deserve to start favs, but don't think I can take them here in that role.
Will hopefully get a nice low total, given it's a Crows game! Will be looking for an over at around the 160 mark...time will tell.

Bit pointless looking at stats as far as Geelong are concerned!! They lead just about everything.
Collingwood 4th best D over last 5 games, Geelong best...
...the Cats do av. about 6 less shots per game outside...although I guess that has to be tempered somewhat by the Brisbane and Sydney games that were in the pouring rain.
Still, with both teams' D on fire, and plenty at stake this should be a low scorer.
I'll be looking for an under, not sure whether I'll get what I want, but hoping for 180ish.
Geelong deserve to be 1.50 favs, but yeah, not great value either way imo.
(Although, pick a winner and take the 1-39, it won't be a blow out.)

WC/Port?! How to get a handle on this one. WC without Kerr and possibly Judd.
Despite gong just 2/5 (and 3 of last 8!), theiur numbers aren't too bad. Av'ing 5 more I50's than their opp, holding them to a shot every 2.09 for only about 22 shots per game!!...
...but as mentioned, their last 2 at home have been unusually poor.
Port av. -2 I50's and let teams score every 1.77 entries!!...the dif being that they score well themselves.
Port actually av. +4 I50's at home this season tho, and without 2 keys for WC...
No idea! One team that plays D but can't score, away to a team that scores lots but can't stop anyone.
Interestingly Port have won 8 of 10 meetings, 4 of the last 6 they were 'dogs, inc/ last season winning easily @ home as 'dogs.
Wish I had have grabbed the 2.25 for Port yesterday...

Nothing in the stats overall for the Dogs/Essendon...nothing in them inside the Dome (Ess -6 I50's to -1, but play far better D than the Dogs)...but last 5 is pretty telling...
Dogs -1 I50...Ess -10!! Dogs score 1.73 entries, Ess 2.02...Again tho, Ess play better D, but with Fletcher out and likely McVeigh (who I'd suggest would have got Johnson) can they keep that up?
Tough one with so many people missing from both sides.
I do think the Dogs win, but was horrified to see 1.50...now down to 1.40 even!!
Will have to think seriously about taking Ess +15.5 or better I think...
...the over looks a given, but I'm sure the number will be stupidly high.

Melbourne going slightly better than Brisbane in their last 5, but Brisbane at home are better again.
I don't thinnk they deserve to be 1.50 favs, but not brave enough to touch Melbourne.

We all know Sydney/Carlton will be a joke, but 1.15? No thanks. Swans love the SCG, winning and covering 8 of theri last 10. They hold teams to a shot every 2.5 entries (about 70ppg), and av. about 9 more shots per game!
Carlton defense at an all time low...allow a shot every 1.61 entries in theri last 5 (worst by a fair way!), and about 140 ppg.
I wanted -26.5 or better. Woin't get it. Oh well...
Swans did win at home last season by 92...

Tigers!...Starting to enjoy them in this dog/spoiler role! Haven't lost any of their last 7 games by more than 25.
Hawks lask of scoring power looks a worry, esp. without Boyle.
Their last 5 games have all been won well by their midfield (+8, holding teams to 44), but their scoring has dried up (2.06 overall, 2.17 now), and their D has too! (1.98 down to 1.85)
Richmond are on the improve, overall stats of -7.5 I50's score 1.95, allow 1.75...now into -4, 1.82 and 1.83.
The MCG suits them better, as turnovers don't hurt as bad...they are 1-6 there this year, but the losses were only by an av. of 20.
Interested...+23.5 will make me even more interested...

Kangas +16.5 or better should be available I think. Freo have won their last 4 at home...but a closer look shows it's all been down to conversion! Either they kick straight (21.11 v. Carlton...in a game they statistically lost!), or the opp kicks badly (Saints 6.19 in a very even contest).
At home this season they av. -1 I50 and 1 less shot than their opp..Kanga av. +1 and 1 more shot this season!
Last 5 is all very even. Kangas scoring has dried up a bit, but Freo have allowed 25+ shots in 8 of their last 9 and 34, 31, 31, 27 and 28 in their last 5!
Somewhat ironically, the Dockers won this meeting at home last year by 35 points...in a game where the teams had 19 shots each!
Straight kicking in the AFL is a fleeting thing at best these days...the numbers suggest a close game in general play, so let's hope the scoreboard reflects it!


Essendon +15.5 @ a couple of places, but that's the one I'm least sure of.
Kangas +15.5 @ Lasseters, but would like that extra point.
Richmond and Sydney won't get close to what I wanted.

Might have a 'fun' multi with Richmond +24.5, Sydney -24.5, Ess +24.5 and Kangas +24.5 @ ~6.70.

Still hoping for a total or two to come my way, but other than that, looks a quiet weekend.

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interesting and noted, thanks very much..
 

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Dogs v. Essendon over 226 (Effectively 1.91)
206-225 as a saver.


Wanted over 209, will take the risk here.
6 of last 9 meetings gone over 226 @ 230.33...just one below 206.
No Fletcher, McVeigh (mcVay??!) Essendon backline very thin, Doggies backline always thin! Lloyd (who missed the 125-147 shootout last season) and Lucas will kick goals...Johnson should run riot.
Just can't see much defense in this one.

Brisbane v. Melbourne under 185.5 (1.80)
saver 186-205...


Just like the extra security here. (UNDER 193.5 @ 1.91 available)...
...but should be low scoring.
Brisbane been quite good defensively at home all season...last 5 just can't score (shot every 2.08 entries)...for jus 75 ppg...skewed a bit by the Geelng game in the wet, but games of 146 v. Ricmond and 167 v. Doggies (home) still make lot of sense.
Melbourne av just 47 I50's for the season. Nietz out hurts massively. Robbo not 100%.
Just figures to be a slow, mistake ridden game, imo.
Good value with a high number.
 

MrChristo

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Ah, Mr. Lap...

Yep, got my records right here in front of me and did indeed go 1-6 in Rd. 10.
(Crows ML, Kangas +25.5, Sydey -23.5, Dogs ML, Richmond/Brisbane over 189.5 all losses...Dogs/Carlton over 212 win)

But, not only did I not post them here (might have given a few thoughts in Pawa's thread...well, must have if you know), I hadn't posted any plays at all up until Rd. 13.

So...how I went in the first half of the year remains a complete mystery dont they... ;)

But nice of you to be taking an interest. :SIB

Any plays yourself? :shrug:
 

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No problems champ.....now I realuise they werent "plays", simply "thoughts", then that clears it all up.

No plays from me this week in the AFL, but I am 11-0 for the year in thoughts.
 

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Well, nice win by your dogs last night C. If only we didn't waste our ball use in the second term it may have been a tight contest at game's end. I think I just need to accept that we're not a very good team- lol - always hard to do! Nice hit in your over mate.
It seems like a one team race this year but we all know geelong is very capable of a gas come finals time. Will be interesting to see which team can step up and match the cats consistency across the ground, if any. I like the way the pies have played for most of the year and think they may be right in the thick of things come september. Who do you guys think can best match the cats come september considering the coasters have fallen apart??
 

MrChristo

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ok, ok...

..let me put this as simply as I possibly can then...

It seemed perfectly logical (to me anyway) to count my record from the date I started posting my own plays in my own thread.
It happened to be 2 weeks ago in Rd. 13.

You are right, I haven't included the 1-6 week in Rd. 10...
...nor have I included the 5-1 Rd. 11 **, or the 4-3 Rd. 12 ***
Rd. 13 is quite simply an arbitory week, that, as I said, I began posting my own thread.

I've got all my season plays and results here with me, and they're cemented on the World Wide Web for all to see at another (UK based) site.
Quite happy to post all that if you'd like...

Anything else I can do for you, "Champ"? :mj07:


** West Coast @ Essendon under 194.5. Win.
Hawthorn v. Sydney under 176.5. Win.
Doggies -5.5 Win.
Crows v. Geelong under 173.5 Win.
Kangaroos +9.5 Win.
Richmond @ Freo under 197. Loss

*** Hawthorn ML. Win.
Kangas/Crows, either team by <24.5. Loss.
Brisbane @ Geelong under 185.5. Win.
Essendon @ Port under 191.5. Loss.
Richmond +14.5. Win.
Collingod +15.5. Win.
WC/St. Kilda under 166.5. Loss.


Yeah, good win for us Coops...better than I thought we'd be.
Can see a Geelong/Sydney GF, personally...
...and no offense mate, but I'd love you blokes to miss!!...Got a carton with a mate that they we'd finish higher. :D
I reckon we need to win one of Hawthorn, Eagles and St. Kilda to make it...
...although a win over Geelong next week would be nice! :00hour
 
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Pure gold.

I believe you, I believe you.....no doubt you are way ahead....killing them in fact. No need to convince me....I've seen those trend plays you produce during the NFL.....statistical dynamite!!!

Nonetheless, you werent 6-1-1 in posted plays....just correcting that "arbitory" error.

Pip, pip.
 

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Yeh can definitely see Sydney right there in the thick of it come season's end aswell C. As tight as things are on the ladder right now they're looking pretty good for a top 4 finish. Haven't seen a season this close in years- very even standard of footy!
 

MrChristo

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phar lap...(why the username change to phar.lap anyway?)...

I'm sure you're perfectly as aware as I am, and most other people here, that my NFL and NBA plays have very little to do with "statistics" as we mathematically know them...
...they are simply based on historical results and situations where I believe books set bad lines.
You don't.
Don't play them. What the hell do I care?! :shrug:

And back to the topic at hand...I post what I consider to be solid reasoning behind all my plays...If I'm off the mark and lose more than I win it's my back pocket that suffers, and is of no significance to you what-so-ever.

But, hey...if you think it's a fair thing, I'm more than happy to change my record back to Rd. 10...
(Or maybe I just should leave my posts record-free like some others...)

1-1 this week after Brisbane/Melbourne somehow manage 10 goals in the last 12 minutes!! :com:

17-11-1 since first posting in Rd. 10.
 
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