Am I missing something?

[sdf]

I never said that. But the arguments don't make sense. These were all games in which MSU had to play a Top 10 team and they were back to back to back. That's tough period.

I am not here to say anything bad about MSU. I think they are outstanding and really really hope they beat Bama...

but your argument they beat "ranked" teams is pretty meaningless since in no way is LSU or TAMU a top 25 team and Auburn is not a top 5 team. pre and early season rankings mean absolutely nothing except to ESPN and CBS who can tout their top 25 battles!!!!!

end of year rankings are much more meaningful.....

If Dak brings his A game and moves the ball around and RUNS, MSU can beat Bama...just like other teams with a run/pass QB (Auburn, TAMU, Miss...)

 

[boomer1]

#1 team in the country catching 8.5 points at Pinnacle.....LMAO

Miss St. going to catch a beating.


# 2 Florida St. at -1.....LMAO

Cane fans are going to storm the field....LOL


Down goes # 1.....Down goes # 2.

I'm with kid here.. I used to think alabama was overrated , but not anymore .. I will truly be shocked if bama doesn't win by 3 tds.. And if they don't I'll be right back in this thread at 6:30 Saturday night and face the music.. I think Miami and fsu goes down to the wire .. True toss up ..

 

[Corley1011]

Sure things have changed... But at the time of the game they were ranked there and no one had an issue with it. So to say they aren't that good now is a moot point since they lost the game and fell in the rankings.

 

[pghpounder]

Conspiracy theory....

If Miss st loses at Alabama it's their first loss and it's not a bad loss being on the road and being that it's to Alabama. With 1 loss, already being #1, and having very good wins in the SEC they're still in the playoffs.

If Alabama loses it's not a bad loss since it's to the #1 team in the country but it would be their 2nd loss and most likely eliminate them from playoff contention.

Alabama needs to win, it's their season on the line. Don't you think the SEC wants Alabama to win which would keep or put 2 SEC teams in the top 4 for playoffs.

It may sound ridiculous but I believe there's more to these games than just kids lining up and playing football. Not saying the kids are involved but the refs sure as he'll can be.

I remember in 2007 when Pitt went to WVU to play the last game of the year. If you watched that game it was clear the refs were trying to get WVU to win. There were numerous horrific calls against Pitt moving WVU down the field but WVU couldn't get out of their own way and somehow Pitt managed to pull out the victory. I guess you're asking what does that have to do with ala/miss st and Why would they want WVU to win?

If WVU wins that game they're going to the national championship. I don't remember now but I remember reading something that said it would of been a huge payday for the Big East, not to mention the exposure.

I'm not saying take either side, this is just something to think about. The line seems high to me but I would think bama may get some help.

 

[Old School]

pre and early season rankings mean absolutely nothing except to ESPN and CBS who can tout their top 25 battles!!!!!

they mean absolutely zero in relation to how good or bad a team is before Nov.

purely and only purely fools fodder and talk show yak yak yak yak ..


99% of NCAA football fans are ready to crown Miss. St. THEIR NATIONAL CHAMPION.

and...are ready to shove that crown up the ass of ALL the other college football programs across this country.

especially those have treated them like a distant cousin twice removed since maybe 1933

well...ya get to go into the big bad bears den and "show the world"

we aint 8' Dogs..we the best team in the country and here why..

I for one would love to see it..that whole "Roll Tide" mess is annoying as hell to everyone other than their following..

But make no mistake about it...they are the big bad bear..and there is no shoving that crown up anybodies ass without whipping that bear..

and no amount of #'s from Sept. to today mean a hill of beans.

 

[ejthree]

they mean absolutely zero in relation to how good or bad a team is before Nov.

purely and only purely fools fodder and talk show yak yak yak yak ..


99% of NCAA football fans are ready to crown Miss. St. THEIR NATIONAL CHAMPION.

and...are ready to shove that crown up the ass of ALL the other college football programs across this country.

especially those have treated them like a distant cousin twice removed since maybe 1933

well...ya get to go into the big bad bears den and "show the world"

we aint 8' Dogs..we the best team in the country and here why..

I for one would love to see it..that whole "Roll Tide" mess is annoying as hell to everyone other than their following..

But make no mistake about it...they are the big bad bear..and there is no shoving that crown up anybodies ass without whipping that bear..

and no amount of #'s from Sept. to today mean a hill of beans.

Finally a man with vision...:0074

 

[sdf]

Sure things have changed... But at the time of the game they were ranked there and no one had an issue with it. So to say they aren't that good now is a moot point since they lost the game and fell in the rankings.

cripes, TAMU and LSU are both ranked still? I guess I was wrong. Not sure if they are just getting SEC respect or if no one else is worth of being in the top 25. I'm not really impressed with either team, though TAMU going to Auburn and winning was impressive I suppose.

but I still firmly stand by my comment that beating ranked teams based on pre and early season rankings is meaningless....they were ranked before we really got to see what the team was all about.

For example, saying you beat #3 ranked Oklahoma this year......whoop de doo. OU is not a top 20 team much last the third best team. Same goes for preseason ranked #15 South Carolina. Just because people thought they were supposed to be good early on doesnt mean they actually are.

anyways...GO STATE!

 

[TLankford]

Curious what bama games people in this thread have been watching.

Took a bad LSU team to OT. And don't give me the "LSU at night" garbage MSU beat the shit out of them in Death Valley.

Arkyslaw, yes Bert's Arkyslaw that hasn't won an SEC game since the last time some of you got laid, gave them everything they could handle. Held them to under 300 yards and like 10 first downs. Please please please nobody try to convince someone that playing in Fayetteville means anything at all. It's probably the least intimidating atmosphere in football.

OMiss, who is good but not great, beat them.

I honestly think people pumping Bama are doing so because of their "marquee wins" over Driskell's Florida :142smilie (before Treon was QB) and Kenny Trill? Aggies, before Kyle Allen took over.

But Ohmageeeerd don't look at those 3 horrible showings against the 3 actual football teams they've played! They were on the road! Bama is dominant at home, pawwwwwl!!!! :142smilie

Personally, I hope the stadium explodes. But seeing as that ISIS has other higher priorities, as an Auburn fan we NEED Bama to win to keep our chances of going to the SECCG alive.

Hence I'm not betting on the game because I think MSU is the easy pick, being the better team getting more than a TD. But I don't like betting on something that I'll be rooting against. (there's not a line on the stadium exploding, unfortunately).

 

[boomer1]

Curious what bama games people in this thread have been watching.

Took a bad LSU team to OT. And don't give me the "LSU at night" garbage MSU beat the shit out of them in Death Valley.

Arkyslaw, yes Bert's Arkyslaw that hasn't won an SEC game since the last time some of you got laid, gave them everything they could handle. Held them to under 300 yards and like 10 first downs. Please please please nobody try to convince someone that playing in Fayetteville means anything at all. It's probably the least intimidating atmosphere in football.

OMiss, who is good but not great, beat them.

I honestly think people pumping Bama are doing so because of their "marquee wins" over Driskell's Florida :142smilie (before Treon was QB) and Kenny Trill? Aggies, before Kyle Allen took over.

But Ohmageeeerd don't look at those 3 horrible showings against the 3 actual football teams they've played! They were on the road! Bama is dominant at home, pawwwwwl!!!! :142smilie

Personally, I hope the stadium explodes. But seeing as that ISIS has other higher priorities, as an Auburn fan we NEED Bama to win to keep our chances of going to the SECCG alive.

Hence I'm not betting on the game because I think MSU is the easy pick, being the better team getting more than a TD. But I don't like betting on something that I'll be rooting against. (there's not a line on the stadium exploding, unfortunately).

Hey TL , if the stadium does explod Saturday ,you guys might could get back to Atlanta ?

 

[TLankford]

....or if Bama and OMiss beat MSU and we win out, we also get back to Atlanta.

I'm not counting on the first two happening though

 

[boomer1]

....or if Bama and OMiss beat MSU and we win out, we also get back to Atlanta.

I'm not counting on the first two happening though

TL, you have to look no further than last week to see I'll bet against Alabama, but does the fact Msu gives up so many pts not bother you in this one ?

Uab 34
Lsu 29
A&m 31
Aub 23
Ky 31... Not numbers you would expect from a #1 ...

 

[neverteaseit]

Well I have been out and about today running some errands and everywhere I go Alabama fans are in full whine mode. How dare the committee not have them in the top 4 let alone not #1. I like football but in the panhandle it is off the charts. Hello people there is life after football.

I will be rooting for MSU for sure. I am sure that line is gonna move some more North as well once Saturday gets here. MSU should just forfeit the game since many down here are saying Alabama in a blow out. It may happen but if they get beat we shall see how many dine on crow afterwords.

I still like the points in this one.

GL TO ALL!!

 

[jmize&gsptailer]

Hey TL the only thing that has exploded is those lucky tigers of yours. Without Luck those lucky shitheads would have 3 more losses in the last 10 games. The only reason MSU looks as if their in the same hemisphere with Alabama is because of the Qb position. MSU is not the best team in the country and if you don't know this you haven't watched them play this year. Their passing defense is horrific and their defense was and still may be the worst statistically in the S.E.C. It would not shock me if Vandy didn't give MSU all they can handle next week because it is sandwiched between Alabama and ole miss.
BO Wallace will expose that pass defense in the last game and that not so great ole miss teams you say will be favored in Oxford.

 

[TLankford]

TL, you have to look no further than last week to see I'll bet against Alabama, but does the fact Msu gives up so many pts not bother you in this one ?

Uab 34
Lsu 29
A&m 31
Aub 23
Ky 31... Not numbers you would expect from a #1 ...

Only if you completely disregard the whole concept of "context within the game"...

UAB - firmly believe they didn't practice for UAB or USA and spent 3 weeks prepping for LSU. And multiple scores by the Blazers in this one were lucky as hell hail marys.

LSU - Did you watch the game? They were up 34-10 with 13 minutes left and went into prevent defense. If it was a close game they would have held them to 10 points total, but it was out of hand.

A&M - Again, Did you watch the game? They were up 48-17 with 5 minutes left and went prevent, because the game was not lose-able. At this point the last 14 points were probably scored against walk-ons.

Auburn - There are maybe a dozen defenses in the country that can hold Auburn's offense too 23 points or less. 3 weeks after this, Auburn put up 35 against OMiss who had the #1 defense in the country

Kentucky - This is the only one that could cause any amount of legitimate concern. But after MSU is coming off huge games against LSU, A&M and Auburn, then going on the road vs. Kentucky... it's pretty easy to see a defensive performance like that happening. Not to mention 3 big passes of 50+ yards by UK that all led to or resulted in a TD.


Now my question for Alabama backers: Does their lack of an offensive pulse against teams with any semblance of a defense worry you?

OMiss - 1 offensive touchdown

Arkansas (loosely qualifies as a semblance of a defense) - 10 first downs. 220 yards. 2 Touchdowns

LSU (also loosely qualifies given what other teams have done vs. them) - 15 1st downs. 315 yards. 2 Offensive TDs (only 1 in a 60 minute football game and 1 in OT where you get the ball on the opp 25 :mj07: ).

All I've heard is how different of a team they are at home... that just doesn't fly with me. It's the most arbitrary excuse I've heard in a long time trying to use offensive performances against two of the worst defenses in the country as your proof.

Long winded post. And before I get any "Shut up Aubbie homer" comments, if you've been on this board for more than 4 months you'd know I bet on Bama a LOT in recent years that I had season long threads

 

[TLankford]

Hey TL the only thing that has exploded is those lucky tigers of yours. Without Luck those lucky shitheads would have 3 more losses in the last 10 games. The only reason MSU looks as if their in the same hemisphere with Alabama is because of the Qb position. MSU is not the best team in the country and if you don't know this you haven't watched them play this year. Their passing defense is horrific and their defense was and still may be the worst statistically in the S.E.C. It would not shock me if Vandy didn't give MSU all they can handle next week because it is sandwiched between Alabama and ole miss.
BO Wallace will expose that pass defense in the last game and that not so great ole miss teams you say will be favored in Oxford.

So you're a huge anti-Auburn guy? Not surprising. However this post has little-to-no tangible information in it, other than your seemily emotionally-charged, homer opinion.

What "hemisphere" of football is Alabama in? The one that needs LUCK to beat an Arkansas team that is 0-17 in their last 17 SEC games? By ONE point at that... is that the "hemisphere" teams strive to be in?

The "hemisphere" that LOSES football games? You know Bama has a loss this year right? To a team that Auburn beat. (those lucky bastards that put up 500 yards and 5 touchdowns vs. a team Bama could only muster 1 offensive Touchdown against :mj07::mj07::mj07: )

The "hemisphere" that needed a game-TYING (not even game-winning) drive against the worst LSU football team in 10 years???

Look man obviously you're a huge Alabama Homer. And you're gonna think because I'm an Auburn fan that I like MSU solely because they're playing our rival school. However, if you'd been on this site for more than 2.5 months you'd know that most of us leave our emotions at the door and can have rational gambling conversation based on tangible facts and results on the field. Maybe you should go back to whatever message board you were posting on before and let the more level-headed posters here talk football.

PS - the idiom is typically "in the same stratosphere"

PSS - the fact that you asked me why I wasn't worried about MSU giving up those point totals, and then subsequently accuse me of "not watching them play" is possible the most ironic / idiot combination I've read on here in a couple years

 

[edludes]

It's pps, not pss. Ps stands for post script. A second one is post post script or pps. It makes no sense to say post script script. This thread is amazing. SEC fans and alumni crack me up .

 

[boomer1]

Only if you completely disregard the whole concept of "context within the game"...

UAB - firmly believe they didn't practice for UAB or USA and spent 3 weeks prepping for LSU. And multiple scores by the Blazers in this one were lucky as hell hail marys.

LSU - Did you watch the game? They were up 34-10 with 13 minutes left and went into prevent defense. If it was a close game they would have held them to 10 points total, but it was out of hand.

A&M - Again, Did you watch the game? They were up 48-17 with 5 minutes left and went prevent, because the game was not lose-able. At this point the last 14 points were probably scored against walk-ons.

Auburn - There are maybe a dozen defenses in the country that can hold Auburn's offense too 23 points or less. 3 weeks after this, Auburn put up 35 against OMiss who had the #1 defense in the country

Kentucky - This is the only one that could cause any amount of legitimate concern. But after MSU is coming off huge games against LSU, A&M and Auburn, then going on the road vs. Kentucky... it's pretty easy to see a defensive performance like that happening. Not to mention 3 big passes of 50+ yards by UK that all led to or resulted in a TD.


Now my question for Alabama backers: Does their lack of an offensive pulse against teams with any semblance of a defense worry you?

OMiss - 1 offensive touchdown

Arkansas (loosely qualifies as a semblance of a defense) - 10 first downs. 220 yards. 2 Touchdowns

LSU (also loosely qualifies given what other teams have done vs. them) - 15 1st downs. 315 yards. 2 Offensive TDs (only 1 in a 60 minute football game and 1 in OT where you get the ball on the opp 25 :mj07: ).

All I've heard is how different of a team they are at home... that just doesn't fly with me. It's the most arbitrary excuse I've heard in a long time trying to use offensive performances against two of the worst defenses in the country as your proof.

Long winded post. And before I get any "Shut up Aubbie homer" comments, if you've been on this board for more than 4 months you'd know I bet on Bama a LOT in recent years that I had season long threads

Long winded? Lol what makes you say that ? Dude all I can say is the windows are wide open !! Get all the Msu you can eat !! And btw how are you liking that aubie over 9.5 you were so excited about? You're luck as hell that ones not in the trash by now !!
As always gl !!

 

[TLankford]

Long winded? Lol what makes you say that ? Dude all I can say is the windows are wide open !! Get all the Msu you can eat !! And btw how are you liking that aubie over 9.5 you were so excited about? You're luck as hell that ones not in the trash by now !!
As always gl !!

As previously stated, I'm not betting on the MSU-Bama game.

I still feel pretty good about the Over 9.5. Our defense matches up a lot better against power run games than spread passing teams like A&M, and the two games left on our schedule are against power run teams. Not sure if you're implying we are "outmatched" by either UGA or Bama... I assure you nobody thinks that, outside of tuscaloosa.

Do Bama fans realize they are just as lucky as any other team in the country? Or are yall just oblivious to the fact that you could have very easily lost to Arkansas and LSU?

 

[jesscolb]

When I think lucky it is Auburn beating Georgia on a hail Mary with only ONE receiver in the pattern and 2 Georgia defenders running into each other, we all know what happened in the Alabama game, and Ole Miss going in for the winning TD and the Ole Miss WR breaks his ankle and fumbles at the half yard line in the last 13 games.

 

[TLankford]

Bama Game:
Missed FG with no return = we got to Overtime with a team we had outscored 21-7 in the last 35 minutes, and their 7 was on a lucky 99 yard TD pass where our DB slipped.

So calling that a "lucky win" is pretty ignorant considering we had all the momentum going into overtime, which is why Saban attempted a retarded field goal to begin with.

OMiss Game:
Had he not fumbled the ball, and would have scored a touchdown = Auburn is down 3 with 1:30 left in the game and 3 timeouts. If you want to assume that this situation is a Loss for Auburn, that's your prerogative.

Yes the UGA game was a lucky catch. Too bad Murray didn't get in the endzone to begin with, so the miracle catch shouldn't have been necessary in the first place. :0008