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NYC FIREMAN COLLECTING $95,000 DISABILITY PENSION CAUGHT WORKING FIRE & RESCUE AT NASCAR TRACK
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 1:11pm by Buck Sexton Print ?Email ?
Comments (23)
Firefighters are revered as heroes for their willingness to run into flaming buildings to save people, but just what qualifies New York City?s firemen for generous lifetime disability pensions?
(Credit: Lou Angeli via NY Post)
That?s the question some are asking after a Fire Department of New York (FDNY) retiree who receives extra pay for his disability has turned up battling flames at a NASCAR speedway.
The New York Post has more:
?Cliff Stabner, a 55-year-old city firefighter who retired in 2003 with a three-quarter disability pension of $95,000 annually, has surfaced as a member of the fire rescue team responding to crashes at Dover International Speedway in Delaware. The Post has obtained photos of Stabner wearing an orange jumpsuit and a helmet and standing next to a rescue vehicle at Dover?s ?Monster Mile?? track. Stabner also is a fire captain in his quaint new hometown of Lewes, Del.?
At least one person? the whistleblower who brought Stabner?s case to the Post?s attention? thinks there is something rotten going on.
?If you have a disability pension, why are you fighting fires and doing NASCAR?? said the whistleblower, who requested anonymity from the NY Post.
?We as citizens are paying for the higher disability pensions. It drives me crazy. How is it OK? It doesn?t make any sense,? the whistleblower added.
Apparently, this situation of ?disabled? firefighters going on to very active lives in retirement is nothing new. In fact, as the Post point out:
?About three-quarters :scared of FDNY firefighters retired with disability pensions in recent years, up from 50 percent before 9/11. The FDNY pension fund paid out $588 million for disability pensions last year, more than double the figure from a decade ago.?
When confronted by reporters, Stabner defended his position as a matter of law to the Post.
?Is that illegal? There are laws? Is that against the pension system? Is it against the law??
Stabner was a member of FDNY Fire Rescue 3 in the Bronx, which lost seven members on 9/11.
?It?s 10 years later. I?m banged up from my life physically and psychologically,?? he said. ?I have serious medical issues.?
Stabner did not offer any specifics about his medical condition to reporters
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GIRLNURSE
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 1:47pm
And thats only 3/4 disability! My goodness, how much would it be if it were 100% disability?????
HAUSCHILD
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 1:33pm
95k disability per annu for a fireman??? My God, I?m a highly skilled worker in the tech industry and I will NEVER see anything close to 95k per year in retirement. You?re talking a minimum of 3 million in a 401k.
Not sure when this country became so against the laws of supply and demand, but just because a person chooses to be a fireman or teach or police officer does not give them the right to retire at a young age and ridiculously lavish salary amounts.
Newsflash: Teaching/fire fighting/policing ? while noble ? is NOT rocket science. These jobs would easily be filled by just as capable bodies for less than half that amount ? and no guaranteed pension. I don?t give a rat?s ass how you try to spin this, noble work is NOT deserving of pay outside what the market is willing to pay. Look at Greece and the rest of that joke of a continent, Europe.
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 1:11pm by Buck Sexton Print ?Email ?
Comments (23)
Firefighters are revered as heroes for their willingness to run into flaming buildings to save people, but just what qualifies New York City?s firemen for generous lifetime disability pensions?
(Credit: Lou Angeli via NY Post)
That?s the question some are asking after a Fire Department of New York (FDNY) retiree who receives extra pay for his disability has turned up battling flames at a NASCAR speedway.
The New York Post has more:
?Cliff Stabner, a 55-year-old city firefighter who retired in 2003 with a three-quarter disability pension of $95,000 annually, has surfaced as a member of the fire rescue team responding to crashes at Dover International Speedway in Delaware. The Post has obtained photos of Stabner wearing an orange jumpsuit and a helmet and standing next to a rescue vehicle at Dover?s ?Monster Mile?? track. Stabner also is a fire captain in his quaint new hometown of Lewes, Del.?
At least one person? the whistleblower who brought Stabner?s case to the Post?s attention? thinks there is something rotten going on.
?If you have a disability pension, why are you fighting fires and doing NASCAR?? said the whistleblower, who requested anonymity from the NY Post.
?We as citizens are paying for the higher disability pensions. It drives me crazy. How is it OK? It doesn?t make any sense,? the whistleblower added.
Apparently, this situation of ?disabled? firefighters going on to very active lives in retirement is nothing new. In fact, as the Post point out:
?About three-quarters :scared of FDNY firefighters retired with disability pensions in recent years, up from 50 percent before 9/11. The FDNY pension fund paid out $588 million for disability pensions last year, more than double the figure from a decade ago.?
When confronted by reporters, Stabner defended his position as a matter of law to the Post.
?Is that illegal? There are laws? Is that against the pension system? Is it against the law??
Stabner was a member of FDNY Fire Rescue 3 in the Bronx, which lost seven members on 9/11.
?It?s 10 years later. I?m banged up from my life physically and psychologically,?? he said. ?I have serious medical issues.?
Stabner did not offer any specifics about his medical condition to reporters
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GIRLNURSE
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 1:47pm
And thats only 3/4 disability! My goodness, how much would it be if it were 100% disability?????
HAUSCHILD
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 1:33pm
95k disability per annu for a fireman??? My God, I?m a highly skilled worker in the tech industry and I will NEVER see anything close to 95k per year in retirement. You?re talking a minimum of 3 million in a 401k.
Not sure when this country became so against the laws of supply and demand, but just because a person chooses to be a fireman or teach or police officer does not give them the right to retire at a young age and ridiculously lavish salary amounts.
Newsflash: Teaching/fire fighting/policing ? while noble ? is NOT rocket science. These jobs would easily be filled by just as capable bodies for less than half that amount ? and no guaranteed pension. I don?t give a rat?s ass how you try to spin this, noble work is NOT deserving of pay outside what the market is willing to pay. Look at Greece and the rest of that joke of a continent, Europe.
