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By Pete Fiutak

1. You can spin it, massage it, and lobby it any way you want, but there?s one simple reality involved in the Big 12 South debate: Oklahoma doesn?t really have a case. (Before you fire off that angry e-mail, full disclosure, the fan in me is actually happy about how this shook out. For fun's sake, I really do want a Florida ? Oklahoma national title, even if it offends my sense of justice. One other item of note, by the CFN Season Rankings, our formula that?s all about the strength of schedule, Oklahoma wins this debate by a HUGE margin thanks to the wins over TCU and Cincinnati.)

Had the situation been reversed, we would?ve had the mother of all hissy fits on our hands. Bob Stoops would?ve gone ballistic ? ballistic. You wouldn?t be able to get him off the TV because he?d be screaming and lobbying to anyone who?d listen, and everyone who wouldn?t. Politicians would?ve gotten involved, just like they did in the embarrassing aftermath following the 2006 instant replay controversy at Oregon, and you?d hear screaming and yelling all across Oklahoma about how the Sooners beat the two teams playing in the Big 12 title game.

Instead, OU has to hide behind the weak, ?well, you have to count Texas Tech? argument, which has nothing to do with the Texas vs. Oklahoma debate. The one thing Stoops is going by is that his team throttled Tech, but when asked to give the pro-Texas argument, he started out by mentioning that the Longhorns beat his team head-to-head ... done. Over. Texas beat Oklahoma. Texas beat Oklahoma. Texas ? beat ? Oklahoma. If you want to make this a Texas Tech over Texas debate, let?s roll, but if this is just about Oklahoma and Texas right now, which it is, then it?s over.

If you still want to bring up the Texas Tech side, then at least use your head and be rational about this. It took a dropped interception with 11 seconds to play, and the greatest pass play in the history of Red Raider football, to beat the Longhorns with one second to play. Remember, that was in Lubbock. (You know, the place where Oklahoma lost last year.) That was worse than losing by ten on a neutral field? Also remember that in the three-team equation, Texas didn't get a home game.

So what?s the answer, point differential? So what if a team tacked on a garbage time touchdown or two? Oklahoma is better than Texas because it scored 61 on Oklahoma State rather than 54? If that?s the case being made, then why not go by the Kansas game? Oklahoma beat KU by 14 at home, and Texas won in Lawrence by 28. Why not go by Texas A&M? OU beat the Aggies by 38, and Texas beat them by 40. You can?t do it because it?s silly. You don?t need to go by a third standard when you have one iron-clad tie-breaker when we?re breaking down two teams ? 45-35.

So really, what is the answer? In a case like this, bring in the Big 12 athletic directors and commission to make a ruling. If you're going to use opinions for the tie-breaker, use the people in the know rather than coaches and Harris types who don't know the difference between a Joe Ganz and a Robert Griffin.

No, Oklahoma isn?t playing better than Texas right now (remember, defense and special teams are part of the game, too); Texas has won its last three games 129 to 37. Yes, Oklahoma's offense is putting up ungodly stats, but that's partly because it has to thanks to its mediocre defense. No, it isn?t a given that Oklahoma would beat Texas in a rematch. And yes, sadly, the season is now tainted.

In the end, Texas beat Oklahoma on a neutral field. All the bells, all the whistles, and all the 60 point performances can?t change that Texas was the better team on that day on the field. If you?re arguing for anything else, and if you?re going to debate me on this, then you already know what the answer is.
 

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How shocking, 3 secs is throwing another piss and moan out there for Texas. I've come to figure out that the best thing about all of this is that Oklahoma is going to the Big XII championship and it is just making Texas fans that are still bitching, like 3 secs, squirm.:142smilie
 

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How shocking, 3 secs is throwing another piss and moan out there for Texas. I've come to figure out that the best thing about all of this is that Oklahoma is going to the Big XII championship and it is just making Texas fans that are still bitching, like 3 secs, squirm.:142smilie

Why?

What do you have against me?

Am I not allowed to pass on legit info from other sources? :shrug:
 

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How shocking, 3 secs is throwing another piss and moan out there for Texas. I've come to figure out that the best thing about all of this is that Oklahoma is going to the Big XII championship and it is just making Texas fans that are still bitching, like 3 secs, squirm.:142smilie

OU is a fraud.This is from a neutral observer.
Stoops will find a way to screw up something that was practicly handed to him.

Using the BCS computer system to determine The Winner:mj07: what a joke:nono:
 

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So what?s the answer, point differential? So what if a team tacked on a garbage time touchdown or two? Oklahoma is better than Texas because it scored 61 on Oklahoma State rather than 54? If that?s the case being made, then why not go by the Kansas game? Oklahoma beat KU by 14 at home, and Texas won in Lawrence by 28. Why not go by Texas A&M? OU beat the Aggies by 38, and Texas beat them by 40. You can?t do it because it?s silly. You don?t need to go by a third standard when you have one iron-clad tie-breaker when we?re breaking down two teams ? 45-35.

No, Oklahoma isn?t playing better than Texas right now (remember, defense and special teams are part of the game, too); Texas has won its last three games 129 to 37. Yes, Oklahoma's offense is putting up ungodly stats, but that's partly because it has to thanks to its mediocre defense. No, it isn?t a given that Oklahoma would beat Texas in a rematch. And yes, sadly, the season is now tainted.
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At least get the facts right, Texas did beat A&M by 40 but if you dont count Oklahoma's last TD against OSU then surely you are not going to count the garbage 7 Texas put up against A&M at the end of the game. You mention the Kansas game yet the writer conveniently leaves out that Oklahoma destroyed A&M on the road and beat an OSU team by 13 (ill give the late 7) on the road while texas was winning at home and winning by 4 against OSU.

Again the bottom line of the whole situation is Lose early stay in the race, Lose late and you have no chance. It has happened year after year.
 

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At least get the facts right, Texas did beat A&M by 40 but if you dont count Oklahoma's last TD against OSU then surely you are not going to count the garbage 7 Texas put up against A&M at the end of the game. You mention the Kansas game yet the writer conveniently leaves out that Oklahoma destroyed A&M on the road and beat an OSU team by 13 (ill give the late 7) on the road while texas was winning at home and winning by 4 against OSU.

Again the bottom line of the whole situation is Lose early stay in the race, Lose late and you have no chance. It has happened year after year.

Thats fine. I think the whole scoring big points & winning by 40-50-60 is a joke. If you can win by 40 chances are you could win by 50 if you really want to.

OU w/o question plays it starters later into blowout games & throws the ball especially this month tacking extra scores on the board by throwing up 40 etc. Yes they put up 60's & UT puts up 40's, but OU gives up 28-35 pts to do so.

When UT has a big lead Chiles comes in they run every single play sometime from the start of the 4thQ.

Was it really needed to throw two long TDs vs TT when they were up 51-14 & 59-14 w/ all the starters in? Does that really impress anyone??

People just see the huge #'s. I

s 58-35 vs K St really more impressive than 38-14 @ Colorado?

Is 66-28 over A&M more impressive than 49-9? (And A&M got there only TD in garbage time as well as the UT garbage TD so it evens out)

I understand it is what it is, but it sucks.
 

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Dude, quit throwing lies out there. I watched the Texas/ Texas A&M game Chiles threw the ball multiple times, in fact his stats were 1 for 2 on the last drive of the game. So don't try that we're all high and mighty s**t. After being up 38-10 in the 4th against Rice, Texas went on to score 2 more tds. Against Florida Atlantic, Texas was up 45-10 in the 4th and they throw a td pass to win 52-10, so if anything Texas is the one guilty of running up the score. Like I have said before OU is actually being outscored in the second half of games this year. Let me say that again, OU is being outscored in the second half of games. That means that they have blown people out in the first half and totally let off the gas in the second. Your rubbing Oklahoma's name through the mud is absolutely pathetic. Get some facts straight before making posts. By the way, OU's 2nd string QB has played in 10 of 12 games this year and has only thrown 30 passes. :liar:
 

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How shocking, 3 secs is throwing another piss and moan out there for Texas. I've come to figure out that the best thing about all of this is that Oklahoma is going to the Big XII championship and it is just making Texas fans that are still bitching, like 3 secs, squirm.:142smilie

Do you ever shut the fuck up? My god. Go away.

:stfu:
 

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Dude, quit throwing lies out there. I watched the Texas/ Texas A&M game Chiles threw the ball multiple times, in fact his stats were 1 for 2 on the last drive of the game.

Get your eyes checked then son. Zero passes last drive. 8 rushes only. 2 passes in the game DOES NOT = several. Nice try. :mj07:


So don't try that we're all high and mighty s**t. After being up 38-10 in the 4th against Rice, Texas went on to score 2 more tds.

All rushes (12) w/ the back ups.


Against Florida Atlantic, Texas was up 45-10 in the 4th and they throw a td pass to win 52-10, so if anything Texas is the one guilty of running up the score. :nono: :nono:

Like I have said before OU is actually being outscored in the second half of games this year. Let me say that again, OU is being outscored in the second half of games. That means that they have blown people out in the first half and totally let off the gas in the second.
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WAY TO MAKE YOURSELF LOOK LIKE AN IDIOT.

AN OUTRIGHT LIE.


Since the Texas loss OU is outscoring teams by 37 pts in the 2nd half. Prior to the Texas loss OU outscored teams by 41.

FOR A TOTAL OF 78 PTs OU IS OUTSCORING TEAMS BY IN THE 2ND HALF.

Did you just say oh that sounds good, I will go with that? :shrug: Its a 100% BS lie made up by you.


Your rubbing Oklahoma's name through the mud is absolutely pathetic. Get some facts straight before making posts.

Looks like your the one who need so to get his facts straight jackhole.

By the way, OU's 2nd string QB has played in 10 of 12 games this year and has only thrown 30 passes. :liar:

So who is it now that is the..

:liar: :liar: :liar: :liar:
 
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Hey old man Ou being outscored in the 4th not the 2nd half. Point is still the same. Texas was throwing the ball the possession before their last, my mistake. Point is still the same. You accuse OU of throwing to run the score up, check out crybaby Mack's game tactics before you go whining about another school. By the way multiple means more than one retard. .:nono:
 
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As long as shorthorns are crying like babies then no, I will not shut up. Sooners=:00x23

If Oaklahoma wins this weekend,and I say if,cause its no guarentee,they will stand absolutley no chance against Alabama (who I think is for real),or Florida.Florida can score and also play D,something Oak. cant do.

Realistly Stoops and Oaklahoma are in for the usual beatdown.Regardless is if its in the big 12 Championship game ,or for a national championship.Can you say chokers:mj07: :142smilie
 

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Hey old man Ou being outscored in the 4th not the 2nd half. Point is still the same. Texas was throwing the ball the possession before their last, my mistake. Point is still the same. You accuse OU of throwing to run the score up, check out crybaby Mack's game tactics before you go whining about another school. By the way multiple means more than one retard. .:nono:

Old man? What makes you think I am old? I am 34 years old. Is that an old man? What are you 17?

You didnt say 4th Q, you said 'second half', I repeat you said 'second half'. Nice way to try & change your story once you are proven wrong. kurby

Stop w/ the name calling, when you are the one that is wrong about everything.

*CORRECTION. MULTIPLE, NOT SEVERAL. MY BAD.
 
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Choked their way to a national championship in 2000. Speaking of chokers how did the Patriots do in last year's Super Bowl?:mj15:
 

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3 secs go back and read my post, it says multiple not several, better yet you first need to watch t.v. and get that 800 number for hooked on phonics because YOU CAN'T READ. Go on, edit your post before this one so you don't look like such an idiot.:142smilie
 

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3 secs go back and read my post, it says multiple not several, better yet you first need to watch t.v. and get that 800 number for hooked on phonics because YOU CAN'T READ. Go on, edit your post before this one so you don't look like such an idiot.:142smilie

BTW.

OU IS NOT ONLY OUTSCORING TEAMS IN THE 2nd HALF, THEY ARE OUTSCORING THEM IN THE 4th Q too

Where do you get this stuff? It was the foundation of your whole argument. You got on your soapbox & preached something that is 100% false. :142smilie :142smilie

What a jackhole! :mj07:

So now care to take back you lie, liar?

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By one point and that was only after this last game. Keep nitpicking, what's your football team doing this weekend?:kiss:

Its by more than one point. If you use any sense you can not use the game THEY LOST TO TEXAS.

IF you knew that, why did you use a outright lie as the basis for your argument?

Do you usually just say its close so I will lie to make my side of the debate look better?

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Texas has outscored their opponents 115-61 in the 4th quarter!!! How do you bring the argument that OU runs up the score on their opponents when that little weasel Mack is doing this to opponents mostly when the game is out of hand? You can continue to cry like a baby but the fact of the matter is OU is going to play in another Big XII championship while Texas is once again going to sit at home.:s6:
 

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You can continue to cry like a baby but the fact of the matter is OU is going to play in another Big XII championship while Texas is once again going to sit at home.:s6:

Way to try & divert from your BLATANT LIE. :nono:

2005 NATIONAL CHAMPIONS.

Does OU have anything more recent than that? Gonna try & lie about that one too?

Oh wait..you do have a disgraceful performance in 2004

USC 55 OU 19

The following year Texas played that same USC team & we all know what happened in that game.

:00x23 :00x23 :00x23 :00x23

PS. BOISE ST! :142smilie :142smilie
 
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