45-35! Oklahoma will get crushed by Florida or Alabama. Oklahoma chokes in big games last couple of years. Boise St:mj07:
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45-35! Oklahoma will get crushed by Florida or Alabama. Oklahoma chokes in big games last couple of years. Boise St:mj07:
Oh you want history how about National Championships OU=7 Texas =4 Heisman trophy winners OU=4 Texas=1 and so on and so on. Everyone knows that Mack Brown will never get back to the big game without another Vince Young.
Way to just ignore the post again. You simply can not deal w/ the facts.
I SAID MORE RECENT, not historically.
Whenever something is brought you you just jump onto another tangent & hope you dont get made a fool once again.
But if you want to talk history.
Once again, you are uninformed. Texas has 2, not 1 Heisman trophy winners: Earl Campbell & Ricky Williams.
Texas is the 2nd all time in wins & OU is not #1.
Head to Head Texas leads the series over OU 58-40-5.
45-35.
2003,2004(back to back baby!!),2001 first is the sweetest.As far as choking last year.Thats debatable for 1 reason.The way the Giants are playing now dictates that there for real.
As I stated Oak. will have no chance ,Repeat NO CHANCE in a BCS Champ. Game.
I did some research knowing that Stoops Sooners are real chokers ,and heres what I found!:142smilie :scared 2003 and 2004 (LSU<and USC,Back to back baby!!) loses in the National Championship game.
Throw in the loss to Boise St.!:mj07: :00x23 of the chokers.Funny how you mention 2000,but leave this info out.:mj07: .Expect more of the same this year,maybe even to Mizzou.kurby
Guess your boys couldnt get it done against the Horns so you take pride in that another school could accomplish what you certainly couldnt.
Your boys got worn down & worn out by the Horns.
I'd never quote & hang all my hats so to speak, on another school, especially a rival, had to do what my school couldnt.
Forever in 2008 Sooner nation will know that they COULD NOT BEAT the Longhorns on the field. That is a FACT. It is not conjecture or debatable or happen stance of a screwed up system. ITS A COLD HARD FACT.
End of Story. Game over. 45-35. :00hour :00hour :00hour
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Btw let me tell you I have nothing against you or Texas and Im not an oklahoma fan but someone always gets screwed and it just happens to be Texas this year. That is all Im saying.
Oh yea and another thing Texas A&M scored 3:30 into the 4th quarter so it really wasnt garbage time.
Hey chances are if Texas and Oklahoma both win their bowl games you will have a split title anyway so you should be an oklahoma fan after they dismiss Missouri.
Btw let me tell you I have nothing against you or Texas and Im not an oklahoma fan but someone always gets screwed and it just happens to be Texas this year. That is all Im saying.
Oh yea and another thing Texas A&M scored 3:30 into the 4th quarter so it really wasnt garbage time.
Hey chances are if Texas and Oklahoma both win their bowl games you will have a split title anyway so you should be an oklahoma fan after they dismiss Missouri.
Yet look at there track record.Pathetic.How this team took over #2 in the nation is beyound me.
Its clear to see that a team more physical will defeat them easily.The system is absurd.
If they play Alabama(or Florida) they will be manhandled.Maybe Florida its closer,but still there a physical team that can score as well.
Forget track records focus on this year.
Ill give you Alabama as being physical but Florida?? Come on that team is built on speed and everyone knows that.
Are you saying Texas is more physical than Oklahoma?? If sso what makes them more physical?
I understand what you are saying & its fine I dont take it personally or anything.
Also as far as A&M anytime in the 4Q is garbage time IMO when the score is 42-3.
Texas is without question a more physical team than OU.
Do you really see that in another way? Do you watch alot of Big 12 football?
Yea I do and OU's offensive line is one of the most physical in the country.
Their defense is every bit as physical as Texas and their defenses are just about identical.
Of course JMO
Their defenses are far from identical.
Texas has by far the #1 scoring D in the Big 12 only giving up 18 per in that conference is insane. OU gives up 25.
Texas is #1 in the nation in sacks.
Texas is tied for 2nd in the country w/ Bama(behind TCU) in rushing D.
OU has given up close to 500 more yards rushing that UT.
Texas also only gives up 2.8 per carry.
Texas has played the tougher offensive schedule.
Texas is also FAR superior in special teams.
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Far from identical?? Come on now
You conviently left out TO margin, you also left out Passing D. Which Okla is above Texas in both.
As for being #1 in sacks they are .4 ahead of OU who ranks 3rd.
As for Total Defense Oklahoma gives up 20 more yards a game.
I have a hard time believing that is FAR from identical.
Like I said also that Offensive line is very physical from Okla.
One last thing,
what would your take on this whole thing be if Texas Tech was going to play in the Big 12 Championship??
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Really?
A touchdown a game scoring D. That is the #1 stat. That is MAJOR difference.
Generally speaking the 'toughness' of D is how they stop the run. So...
How do you discount that rushing D? 2nd in the NATION! Almost 40 yards/game better than OU.
I am sure you would say Bama has an outstanding physical run D & yet Texas is equal w/ them & somehow that doesnt matter
Texas has played superior offensives teams.
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I dont discount anything.
I didnt say okla was 4 sacks behind them i said they were .4 behind them, which means per game.
Yet again you conveniently leave out TO margin and the offensive line play. Last but not least they give up a whole 20 yards per game more. Take the blinders off.
Far superior schedule??? Funny but Okla has played more ranked teams than Texas this year.
Also looking closer in conference play Texas played Colorado and Missouri as un-common opponents and OU played Kansas and Nebraska, I think Kansas and Nebraska were tougher games than colorado and missouri. Out of conference Oklahoma holds that edge as well with Cincy and Tcu trumping anything Texas has to offer as well.
Again I ask you what would your take on this be if TT was playing in the Big 12 title game?
I am not sure what TO margain has to do w/ being phyiscal. OU has a bunch of INTs.
I will grant you OU has a very very good O-Line.
What is more important in a game points or yards? I think everyone would agree its points.
7 pts per game is a SIGNIFICANT difference.
Superior offensive schedule is what I said, not total schedule where UT has a slight SoS advantage over OU according to those that grade those things.
Cincy & TCU are far from offensive teams.
You must mean Kansas St, cause Texas played Kansas & held them to 7 pts @ Kansas.
K-St or Nebraska are not near Mizzou offensively.
I cant debate this anymore man, Texas has a better D than OU. It is what it is. OU has a better O no question. Texas IMO is the 'tougher team' but that is all subjective anyway.
If TT was in this game I wouldnt have any complaints or anything to say cause they beat UT on the field plain & simple.
We all know, in reality, this isnt about the BIG 12 championship or a 3 way tie. This is about a chance to play in the NC. This was a choice between Texas & OU. For whatever reason TT isnt in the NC picture.
There is nothing to be done now, but to hope however slight the possibility may be that Mizzou can shock OU.
It really sucks that UT beat both these teams this year on the field, yet plays no part.
Just doesnt seem fair. :shrug:
Again nothing against Texas but my opinion is at this time of the year OKL is the better team. A kick return here a disputed interception there and you never know.
