Another Ebola thought from Dr. Matt Valente

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Levity

 

[The Boys]

It's a shame the General Forum is full of assholes.

 

[MadJack]

It's a shame the General Forum is full of assholes.

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[bleedingpurple]

That Texas hospital is going to be screwed they better damn well hope no patients who were in there get this. Lawsuits galore. They put their nurses in extreme jeopardy and I actually figured that is what happened once a nurse obtained it. Hospital administration acts like they are God too much.

 

[theGibber1]

What a dumb argument.

All the deaths in this cartoon happened because of peoples own personal choices.. It takes years and years of self abuse to die from smoking for example. What makes Ebola scary is that you can catch it through no fault of your own.. It also has a 70% mortality rate. Just takes once.

You cant catch obesity, lung cancer or alcoholism.. Especially while wearing a hazmat uniform..

I have two employees in this hospital. They are scared and im worried for them

 

[zoomer]

What a dumb argument.

All the deaths in this cartoon happened because of peoples own personal choices.. It takes years and years of self abuse to die from smoking for example. What makes Ebola scary is that you can catch it through no fault of your own.. It also has a 70% mortality rate. Just takes once.

You cant catch obesity, lunch cancer or alcoholism.. Especially while wearing a hazmat uniform..

I have two employees in this hospital. They are scared and im worried for them

Exactly!! Someone told me recently that war is responsible for way more deaths than Ebola. LOL . I responded by asking what that has to do with the price of tea in China.

 

[fatdaddycool]

The general forum is not fill of anything other than a small sample set of citizens of our country. There are people of all kinds. This thread is completely indicative of what everyone deals with every single day in this country. We love being in a panic, some call it "preparation". We love the sensationalism of it all, hell the most popular form of entertainment we have is "reality TV" that couldn't be any further removed from reality than hedge. You have a thousand times the anger and hatred than you do compassion and love. We have little or no patriotism but we all clap like we're supposed to when they bring out the veteran at halftime. We expect the government to fix all our problems, yet we don't want it around our have to pay for it.

This shit we see on the news at present isn't about Ebola. It's not about passing along information to the masses in order for us to be an educated society. We don't want to be educated or informed and the media certainly doesn't want to do that. They simply want the money that higher viewership brings, nothing more. Our country is not a domestically proactive country. We don't do shit during crises except cower down and wait for the news to tell us what to do.
Where the fuck else would you have a guy actually state more than once and with conviction that a pandemic to kill off its citizens is planned because a black man is president and wants to change our government to a monarchy. Where else would you find a post or news story presented as fact that states "another case of Ebola found in. ..." when right next to it in black and white it CLEARLY states that the story is untrue, yet that is completely disregarded? We allow treason to be commonplace but want a black guy to lose his entire life's work because he spanked his kid harder than you did?
What's on fumes is the increasingly fewer number of free thinkers this country produces.

Hope this helps,
FDC

 

[theGibber1]

The general forum is not fill of anything other than a small sample set of citizens of our country. There are people of all kinds. This thread is completely indicative of what everyone deals with every single day in this country. We love being in a panic, some call it "preparation". We love the sensationalism of it all, hell the most popular form of entertainment we have is "reality TV" that couldn't be any further removed from reality than hedge. You have a thousand times the anger and hatred than you do compassion and love. We have little or no patriotism but we all clap like we're supposed to when they bring out the veteran at halftime. We expect the government to fix all our problems, yet we don't want it around our have to pay for it.

This shit we see on the news at present isn't about Ebola. It's not about passing along information to the masses in order for us to be an educated society. We don't want to be educated or informed and the media certainly doesn't want to do that. They simply want the money that higher viewership brings, nothing more. Our country is not a domestically proactive country. We don't do shit during crises except cower down and wait for the news to tell us what to do.
Where the fuck else would you have a guy actually state more than once and with conviction that a pandemic to kill off its citizens is planned because a black man is president and wants to change our government to a monarchy. Where else would you find a post or news story presented as fact that states "another case of Ebola found in. ..." when right next to it in black and white it CLEARLY states that the story is untrue, yet that is completely disregarded? We allow treason to be commonplace but want a black guy to lose his entire life's work because he spanked his kid harder than you did?
What's on fumes is the increasingly fewer number of free thinkers this country produces.

Hope this helps,
FDC

The same people that are shocked to hear that some think Obama did this on purpose are the same people who compared Bush to Adolf Hitler and think he killed over 3,000 of his own citizens on purpose with 911.. I would say those arguers are more about politics than race. But with Raymond who knows? hahah

 

[bleedingpurple]

The same people that are shocked to hear that some think Obama did this on purpose are the same people who compared Bush to Adolf Hitler and think he killed over 3,000 of his own citizens on purpose with 911.. I would say those arguers are more about politics than race. But with Raymond who knows? hahah

I personally do not know any, and if I did I would say thy are nutty

FDC - I think this situation could get worse. The worst fucking state for Ebola to go to - Texas. If what I am hearing is true this hospital has really fucked over it's employees and patient care. Ebola is nothing to screw with

 

[fatdaddycool]

I personally do not know any, and if I did I would say thy are nutty

FDC - I think this situation could get worse. The worst fucking state for Ebola to go to - Texas. If what I am hearing is true this hospital has really fucked over it's employees and patient care. Ebola is nothing to screw with

Dude, you're not getting it. Ebola is nothing to screw with? Holy fuck than what about influenza and aids? They are? How many have they killed? Where's my damn hysteria for that? I definitely need some hysteria for sickle cell and ALS and holy shit what are we going to do about the people that don't want to vaccinate their kids?

Yes, this 24/7 coverage and full out panic over one dead guy is certainly rational.

The hospital she works at is run by Texas Health Source or whatever their name is, they used to be the Texas Harris methodist hospital group, they run several hospitals in the state. Including Parkland, Harris downtown and in Houston (not where hedges doctor works, the one that predicts the monarchy by Marshall law) and several others around the state. They are the largest single medical group in the state. I dint know that it is anymore or any less equipped to deal with a deadly virus. Besides, I don't think containment is the nurses responsibility when the patient lies about his contact with foreign pathogens. Jmo

 

[fatdaddycool]

The same people that are shocked to hear that some think Obama did this on purpose are the same people who compared Bush to Adolf Hitler and think he killed over 3,000 of his own citizens on purpose with 911.. I would say those arguers are more about politics than race. But with Raymond who knows? hahah

I never compared Bush to Hitler and i don't recall anyone saying he killed 3000 people in the world trade Centre bombings. What I do know as fact, let me say it again FACT, is that he completely ignored all reports, and there were mountains of them, of the impending attack. Ignored every single one of the reports Gibber. ......IGNORED THEM. He then lied the American public about WMDs in order to start a war, then lied to the military about significant military action in the region being stopped with "mission accomplished". All factual events and yet you want to equate those people that were and are unhappy with his actions to those that "allege" something so ridiculous as to say the president, the one the same people are asserting is the worst president ever, has planned a mass pandemic in order to establish a monarchy? A pandemic that it's ENTIRE PLAN RELIES ON SOME DUDE GOING TO AFRICA, CATCHING THIS DISEASE AND THEN RETURNING TO THE US WITHOUT ANY SYMPTOMS AND NO WAY OF KNOWING WHETHER OR NOT HE ACTUALLY CONTRACTED IT? That's the fucking plan bro? You think those two assertions are equal?
Wow.

 

[bleedingpurple]

Dude, you're not getting it. Ebola is nothing to screw with? Holy fuck than what about influenza and aids? They are? How many have they killed? Where's my damn hysteria for that? I definitely need some hysteria for sickle cell and ALS and holy shit what are we going to do about the people that don't want to vaccinate their kids? Yes, this 24/7 coverage and full out panic over one dead guy is certainly rational. The hospital she works at is run by Texas Health Source or whatever their name is, they used to be the Texas Harris methodist hospital group, they run several hospitals in the state. Including Parkland, Harris downtown and in Houston (not where hedges doctor works, the one that predicts the monarchy by Marshall law) and several others around the state. They are the largest single medical group in the state. I dint know that it is anymore or any less equipped to deal with a deadly virus. Besides, I don't think containment is the nurses responsibility when the patient lies about his contact with foreign pathogens. Jmo

To be honest I don't think you are getting it. Influenza and Aids are something medical professionals deal with all the time. Influenza does kill people but it's very disproportionate to those who get it. Aids is automatic death over time,but to get aids you have to be infected with HIV first, if detected, HIV can be prevented from becoming Aids. ALS is also deemed incurable. Ebola is a different beast, look we have had ONE case and the hospital still fucks it up? What if we were to get 10 or maybe 50? Is it being over blown quite possibly but that will happen when a president says there is Zero chance of it getting into the US an boom it's here. I can't hang it all on the media on this one.

 

[RAYMOND]

This thread is confusing.

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Apparently boob twerking is a thing.
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[Woodson]

The general forum is not fill of anything other than a small sample set of citizens of our country. There are people of all kinds. This thread is completely indicative of what everyone deals with every single day in this country.

We love being in a panic, some call it "preparation" Panic and preparation are not synonymous.

We love the sensationalism of it all, hell the most popular form of entertainment we have is "reality TV" that couldn't be any further removed from reality than hedge. Generalizations. What does The Voice, American Idol, or any reality tv show have to due with Virology?

You have a thousand times the anger and hatred than you do compassion and love. We have little or no patriotism but we all clap like we're supposed to when they bring out the veteran at halftime. We expect the government to fix all our problems, yet we don't want it around our have to pay for it.
Again, Generalization of your personal views of your community.

This shit we see on the news at present isn't about Ebola. It's not about passing along information to the masses in order for us to be an educated society. Generalization about how you see information being provided. There are countless new sources giving information about Ebola.

We don't want to be educated or informed and the media certainly doesn't want to do that. They simply want the money that higher viewership brings, nothing more. Our country is not a domestically proactive country. We don't do shit during crises except cower down and wait for the news to tell us what to do. Complete Generalization. Cower down? Katrina, 9/11, Hurricane Sandy, Tsunami, Fukoshima, Americans joined forces and helped others. You have a negative viewpoint of society.

Where the fuck else would you have a guy actually state more than once and with conviction that a pandemic to kill off its citizens is planned because a black man is president and wants to change our government to a monarchy. Nobody is speaking to Raymond but you. Its not a shared thought or perception.

Where else would you find a post or news story presented as fact that states "another case of Ebola found in. ..." when right next to it in black and white it CLEARLY states that the story is untrue, yet that is completely disregarded? Your argument is that facts are not being checked. However information is being shared.

We allow treason to be commonplace but want a black guy to lose his entire life's work because he spanked his kid harder than you did? Again, this has nothing to do with anything related to Ebola.

What's on fumes is the increasingly fewer number of free thinkers this country produces.


Hope this helps,
FDC

It doesn't really help

 

[Woodson]

I never compared Bush to Hitler and i don't recall anyone saying he killed 3000 people in the world trade Centre bombings. What I do know as fact, let me say it again FACT, This doesn't strengthen your argument to use the word FACT. is that he completely ignored all reports, and there were mountains of them, of the impending attack. Ignored every single one of the reports Gibber. ......IGNORED THEM. The same reporters and media in your previous post that doesn't confirm facts. You are arguing any side at this point.

He then lied the American public about WMDs in order to start a war, then lied to the military about significant military action in the region being stopped with "mission accomplished". All factual events and yet you want to equate those people that were and are unhappy with his actions to those that "allege" something so ridiculous as to say the president, the one the same people are asserting is the worst president ever, has planned a mass pandemic in order to establish a monarchy? A pandemic that it's ENTIRE PLAN RELIES ON SOME DUDE GOING TO AFRICA, CATCHING THIS DISEASE AND THEN RETURNING TO THE US WITHOUT ANY SYMPTOMS AND NO WAY OF KNOWING WHETHER OR NOT HE ACTUALLY CONTRACTED IT? That's the fucking plan bro? You think those two assertions are equal?
Wow.

This isn't even close to being on target to the original post so I'll ignore

Fun times..

 

[Woodson]

Ebola is nothing to screw with? Holy fuck than what about influenza and aids? They are? How many have they killed? Where's my damn hysteria for that? I definitely need some hysteria for sickle cell and ALS and holy shit what are we going to do about the people that don't want to vaccinate their kids?

We are speaking on Ebola. Even if you are comparing Ebola to Influenza and Aids it doesn't make sense. Its just a bunch of emotional spewed scenarios.

Yes, this 24/7 coverage and full out panic over one dead guy is certainly rational.

Satirical...

The hospital she works at is run by Texas Health Source or whatever their name is, they used to be the Texas Harris methodist hospital group, they run several hospitals in the state. Including Parkland, Harris downtown and in Houston (not where hedges doctor works, the one that predicts the monarchy by Marshall law) and several others around the state. They are the largest single medical group in the state. I dint know that it is anymore or any less equipped to deal with a deadly virus.

The nurses Union is on TV stating that the 76 nurses that helped assist, say it is not capable. What does being a largest medical facilities corporation have to do with correctly preventing contraction by medical staff? It has nothing to do with Ebola.

Besides, I don't think containment is the nurses responsibility when the patient lies about his contact with foreign pathogens. Jmo

Actual Information available online by credited sources and not home renovation entrepreneurs

The problems encountered at the Dallas hospital are reflective of training and equipment insufficiencies at hospitals across the country, Deborah Burger, co-president of National Nurses United, told ABC News.
?What concerns me is that this validated what our systems say all over the country throughout the last two months, that hospitals are not prepared to take care of Ebola patients,? she said. ?It is disturbing to have all of our concerns validated in one hospital.?
The criticisms follow a Tuesday admission by Thomas Frieden, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention director, who said he regrets not sending a larger team of experts to Texas when Duncan was first diagnosed with Ebola.
The CDC could have sent a "more robust management team and been more hands on from day one," Frieden said. "Looking back, we say we should have put an even larger team on the ground immediately."

Just not following your argument. You are not an expert in Virology nor infectious diseases. You speak as you are the end all be all of knowledge and throw out very absurd information.

Its just not well put together.

D+ for effort.

 

[fatdaddycool]

No, but i do have a degree in chemistry and was working in my microbiology degree so i know enough to speak on it intelligently. I knew what a virus is and how they work yes. Very much so.

 

[Woodson]

To be honest I don't think you are getting it. Influenza and Aids are something medical professionals deal with all the time. Influenza does kill people but it's very disproportionate to those who get it. Aids is automatic death over time,but to get aids you have to be infected with HIV first, if detected, HIV can be prevented from becoming Aids. ALS is also deemed incurable. Ebola is a different beast, look we have had ONE case and the hospital still fucks it up? What if we were to get 10 or maybe 50? Is it being over blown quite possibly but that will happen when a president says there is Zero chance of it getting into the US an boom it's here. I can't hang it all on the media on this one.

I agree with your points.

BP, you have a background as RN and in the care facilities field right?

 

[fatdaddycool]

Just not following your argument. You are not an expert in Virology nor infectious diseases. You speak as you are the end all be all of knowledge and throw out very absurd information.

Its just not well put together.

D+ for effort.

What exact information did i put out that's absurd? I'll wait for your pointed answer