any pics of clemens chick ???
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all he needed to do was say he was 'sorry' when the whole steriods thing came up, and none of this would be happening..:SIB
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I'm clearing you to drink a 12 pk tonight.
nah, been on a saturday only for drinking since march 19th (only one screw-up on a sunday). staying that way until vegas on june 19th. so far dropped 12 pounds on this program
The hits just keep on coming. I don't think Roger had an inning this bad.
Accusation of affair erodes Clemens? credibility
By Craig Silverman, Special to Yahoo! Sports
Apr 28, 4:25 pm EDT
In the following Q&A, Yahoo! Sports legal analyst Craig Silverman addresses potential repercussions of the accusations reported by the New York Daily News that Roger Clemens had a long-term affair with country singer Mindy McCready that began in 1991 when she was 15 and Clemens was 28.
Clemens was accused in the Mitchell Report of taking steroids. His accuser is his former personal trainer, Brian McNamee, and the two men testified in front of a congressional committee in February. Clemens denied under oath that he has ever taken steroids and a federal investigation is underway to determine whether he committed perjury. Clemens has filed a civil defamation suit against McNamee.
What do you make of today?s reported claim that Roger Clemens carried on a lengthy affair with country singer Mindy McCready?
This is brutal for Roger Clemens and his family, but it was predictable. Brian McNamee was a close associate of Clemens for many years and it was easy to anticipate that he would know secrets about Clemens? life beyond his training regimen.
Nasty public warfare had to be expected once Clemens accused McNamee of lying and sued him for defamation. For one, Clemens put his reputation at issue as part of that defamation claim. Second, he created an incentive for McNamee to swing back as hard as he could.
Will the McCready situation become part of the civil lawsuit?
It already has. McNamee?s attorneys are leading the charge on this issue, claiming that Clemens? reputation and credibility are flawed, aside from the steroids accusations.
The standard for pre-trial discovery (depositions, interrogatories, etc.) is not whether the questions and anticipated answers would be relevant at trial, but the looser standard that the questions and answers might lead to the discovery of relevant evidence. Nearly anybody who spent private time with Clemens is fair game because they might have witnessed steroid use or know of circumstantial evidence based on observations of physical or mental changes in Clemens.
Furthermore, Clemens? questionable acts aside and apart from steroid use diminish his reputation, making them relevant to the issue of damages. For example, if you accuse mobster Sammy (The Bull) Gravano of drug abuse and he sues you for damaging his reputation, you can make a persuasive argument that other facts damaged Gravano?s reputation aside and apart from the alleged defamation.
Do you think Clemens will press forward with his civil lawsuit against McNamee?
Right now the judge must rule on a motion by McNamee?s side that requested Clemens? lead attorney, Rusty Hardin, be removed from the case because he represented pitcher Andy Pettitte, who is a key witness. Beyond that issue, even if Clemens dropped his suit, McNamee probably would countersue Clemens. McNamee smells a payday, a huge settlement from Clemens to end the public bloodletting before a trial.
Could the McCready revelation impact the federal prosecutors? decision regarding whether to file perjury charges against Clemens?
It could have a big impact if it leads to witnesses that that saw or knew of Clemens? steroid use. It?s conceivable that McCready could testify that she saw no evidence of steroid use, but that would be discounted by a jury because of her close relationship with Clemens. Jurors don?t expect somebody close to the accused to offer evidence of criminality.
There is considerable prosecutorial discretion when it comes to filing any criminal charge. Until the Mitchell Report, Clemens had a strong reputation, and accordingly, prosecutors would have needed an air-tight case to convince a jury he was guilty. As Clemens? reputation diminishes, however, the likelihood of a star-struck jury also diminishes.
Is there any chance of Clemens being criminally prosecuted for having sex with a child given the report that McCready was 15 when their affair began?
It?s extremely unlikely. Each state determines the age of consent within its borders. In Florida, where Clemens? affair with McCready allegedly began 17 years ago, the age of consent is 16. However, the statute of limitations would have expired long ago. Even in a state with an expanded statute of limitations for child molestation, the only way I can conceive of this charge even being investigated is if McCready goes to law enforcement with evidence and there is corroboration.
Was it wise for Clemens to have brought the defamation lawsuit against McNamee in the first place?
It is generally foolish for a public figure to bring a defamation lawsuit. If the individual being sued has private information about the famous person, that?s a strong reason to avoid public litigation.
On the surface, it appears Clemens may be the victim of bad advice from Hardin and the rest of his legal team. Hardin is a flamboyant lawyer who enjoys publicity and public arguments. While this kind of media coverage may be good for Hardin?s firm, it is bad for Clemens, whose reputation is in freefall. It could have been Clemens who insisted on pressing forward, but the mark of a good lawyer is client control. This is embarrassing for Rusty Hardin. It is not one of his finer moments.
Now we have Hardin denying that there was sex involved in this ?close family friend relationship? between McCready and Clemens. It seems odd that a professional baseball player would have a long-term nonsexual relationship with an attractive female singer that involved private trips and private encounters. Add McCready?s problems with drugs and criminality, and the result is another nightmare for Clemens, both in the court of public opinion and possibly in a court of law.
Accusation of affair erodes Clemens? credibility
By Craig Silverman, Special to Yahoo! Sports
Apr 28, 4:25 pm EDT
In the following Q&A, Yahoo! Sports legal analyst Craig Silverman addresses potential repercussions of the accusations reported by the New York Daily News that Roger Clemens had a long-term affair with country singer Mindy McCready that began in 1991 when she was 15 and Clemens was 28.
Clemens was accused in the Mitchell Report of taking steroids. His accuser is his former personal trainer, Brian McNamee, and the two men testified in front of a congressional committee in February. Clemens denied under oath that he has ever taken steroids and a federal investigation is underway to determine whether he committed perjury. Clemens has filed a civil defamation suit against McNamee.
What do you make of today?s reported claim that Roger Clemens carried on a lengthy affair with country singer Mindy McCready?
This is brutal for Roger Clemens and his family, but it was predictable. Brian McNamee was a close associate of Clemens for many years and it was easy to anticipate that he would know secrets about Clemens? life beyond his training regimen.
Nasty public warfare had to be expected once Clemens accused McNamee of lying and sued him for defamation. For one, Clemens put his reputation at issue as part of that defamation claim. Second, he created an incentive for McNamee to swing back as hard as he could.
Will the McCready situation become part of the civil lawsuit?
It already has. McNamee?s attorneys are leading the charge on this issue, claiming that Clemens? reputation and credibility are flawed, aside from the steroids accusations.
The standard for pre-trial discovery (depositions, interrogatories, etc.) is not whether the questions and anticipated answers would be relevant at trial, but the looser standard that the questions and answers might lead to the discovery of relevant evidence. Nearly anybody who spent private time with Clemens is fair game because they might have witnessed steroid use or know of circumstantial evidence based on observations of physical or mental changes in Clemens.
Furthermore, Clemens? questionable acts aside and apart from steroid use diminish his reputation, making them relevant to the issue of damages. For example, if you accuse mobster Sammy (The Bull) Gravano of drug abuse and he sues you for damaging his reputation, you can make a persuasive argument that other facts damaged Gravano?s reputation aside and apart from the alleged defamation.
Do you think Clemens will press forward with his civil lawsuit against McNamee?
Right now the judge must rule on a motion by McNamee?s side that requested Clemens? lead attorney, Rusty Hardin, be removed from the case because he represented pitcher Andy Pettitte, who is a key witness. Beyond that issue, even if Clemens dropped his suit, McNamee probably would countersue Clemens. McNamee smells a payday, a huge settlement from Clemens to end the public bloodletting before a trial.
Could the McCready revelation impact the federal prosecutors? decision regarding whether to file perjury charges against Clemens?
It could have a big impact if it leads to witnesses that that saw or knew of Clemens? steroid use. It?s conceivable that McCready could testify that she saw no evidence of steroid use, but that would be discounted by a jury because of her close relationship with Clemens. Jurors don?t expect somebody close to the accused to offer evidence of criminality.
There is considerable prosecutorial discretion when it comes to filing any criminal charge. Until the Mitchell Report, Clemens had a strong reputation, and accordingly, prosecutors would have needed an air-tight case to convince a jury he was guilty. As Clemens? reputation diminishes, however, the likelihood of a star-struck jury also diminishes.
Is there any chance of Clemens being criminally prosecuted for having sex with a child given the report that McCready was 15 when their affair began?
It?s extremely unlikely. Each state determines the age of consent within its borders. In Florida, where Clemens? affair with McCready allegedly began 17 years ago, the age of consent is 16. However, the statute of limitations would have expired long ago. Even in a state with an expanded statute of limitations for child molestation, the only way I can conceive of this charge even being investigated is if McCready goes to law enforcement with evidence and there is corroboration.
Was it wise for Clemens to have brought the defamation lawsuit against McNamee in the first place?
It is generally foolish for a public figure to bring a defamation lawsuit. If the individual being sued has private information about the famous person, that?s a strong reason to avoid public litigation.
On the surface, it appears Clemens may be the victim of bad advice from Hardin and the rest of his legal team. Hardin is a flamboyant lawyer who enjoys publicity and public arguments. While this kind of media coverage may be good for Hardin?s firm, it is bad for Clemens, whose reputation is in freefall. It could have been Clemens who insisted on pressing forward, but the mark of a good lawyer is client control. This is embarrassing for Rusty Hardin. It is not one of his finer moments.
Now we have Hardin denying that there was sex involved in this ?close family friend relationship? between McCready and Clemens. It seems odd that a professional baseball player would have a long-term nonsexual relationship with an attractive female singer that involved private trips and private encounters. Add McCready?s problems with drugs and criminality, and the result is another nightmare for Clemens, both in the court of public opinion and possibly in a court of law.
I couldn't are less who he was hittin, or who wasn't hittin him. When I buy a ticket to a baseball game I want to see 100mph fastballs and lots of home runs and such. That, my friends, is what everyone wants, its just that noone wants to pick up the tab when the value of entertainment costs someone a fallen hero status. Not one single person in this forum goes to see a pitching duel between two guys popping the glove at 89 mph and having half ass hitters flail away to lazy fly balls, so think againg why steroids and HGH are around and then go ahead and convict the guy as some lascivious character that didn't do a damn thing wrong that any one else wouldn't have done. Ifyou have been in his position and didn't take advantage of your celebrity then God bless you ya idiot. If you haven't walked in his shoes then your opinions are only that and quite meaningless. Who cares what you and I think I want to seee the Rocket be the Rocket, thats what I went to see when he played and thats what I went to see when Sosa and Mcgwirend all those guys played. Gee I wonder if Hank AAron or Babe Ruth ever did anything like this...........hmmmmmmmm
Why is everyone convicting him and nothing has been proven. Why does everyone jump to conclusions? Any of you have a girl that is just your friend? :shrug:
Roger is a family man...:mj07:
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Roger Clemens linked to John Daly's ex
BY TERI THOMPSON, MICHAEL O'KEEFFE and NATHANIEL VINTON in New York and CHRISTIAN RED in Nashville
NY DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS
Thursday, May 1st 2008, 1:23 AM
Roger Clemens has been linked to golfer John Daly's ex-wife, Paulette Dean Daly.
John Daly and his ex-wife, Paulette Dean Daly
For Roger Clemens, the hits just keep on coming.
Several sources told the Daily News Wednesday that Clemens had a relationship with Paulette Dean Daly, a former wife of champion golfer John Daly.
The sources said Clemens, a married father of four, arranged trips to Anaheim Stadium for Daly - the latest woman to emerge as an alleged Rocket flame - to watch him pitch forthe Yankees against the Angels. Sources also said he spent time with her in Palm Springs, Calif.
The pair met at the Bob Hope Chrysler Classic, a Palm Springs golf tournament that Paulette Dean Daly has been involved with for many years - including stints as a "Classic Girl," one of the beautiful women who help in ceremonial duties at the event, sources said.
"Yeah, I've known Roger quite a while and we are friends," Daly said yesterday.
She declined to elaborate on the nature of her relationship with the pitcher, but did not deny allegations from several sources that it was romantic and included financial support.
Asked if she had been romantically involved with Clemens, Daly replied: "You know what, I'm really uncomfortable talking about this. I'm just going to have to say, 'No comment.'
"I know Roger. I consider him a good friend. That's all I'm comfortable saying."
Clemens' relationship with Daly is said to have come after the end of her marriage to the hard-driving golfer. That was on the heels of a grim incident at the 1997 Players Championship, where the golfer was taken to a hospital with alcohol poisoning.
The beauty married the golfer in Las Vegas in January 1995 at the Little Church of the West. He wore blue jeans, cowboy boots, a dark jacket and no tie. She wore white.
Daly is still involved with the Bob Hope Chrysler Classic as an organizer of famously lavish parties there.
News reports have described Clemens as being in attendance as recently as two years ago, dancing around the party with an 8-foot-long boa constrictor around his neck.
The revelations of Clemens' dalliances come as he and his lawyer, Rusty Hardin, pursue a defamation suit against former trainer Brian McNamee, who has accused Clemens of using performance-enhancing drugs.
In an effort to discredit McNamee in January, Hardin circulated information about a 2001 incident in Florida where McNamee was investigated for sexual assault but was never charged.
Now Clemens' flawed past is coming to light, which legal experts say is inevitable for anyone pursuing a defamation case because a successful injury claim depends on an undamaged reputation.
Hardin has argued that Clemens' personal life is irrelevant to the issue of steroid and human-growth hormone use - a notion that draws scoffing from Ernest Nargi, a New York lawyer and former prosecutor.
"In any court, and in any deposition, this would be explored - it goes to the heart of the truth," Nargi said. "If he's not going to be honest with his wife, who is he going to be honest with? He's taken a vow with his wife."
McNamee's lawyers have said they will pursue sworn testimony from any mistresses who emerge, including testimony from country singer Mindy McCready, who on Monday confirmed the details of a Daily News exclusive story describing her long-term affair with Clemens.
McCready, who has added New York-based publicist Susan Blond and consultant Mike Vaden to her team, recorded tracks for a new album at the Sound Kitchen studio in Franklin, Tenn., yesterday, doing her best to transition into a career revival.
After just over three hours of recording, McCready ducked into her car.
Clemens, who is under FBI investigation for perjury, has not spoken publicly this week about his situation.
Hardin did not respond to requests for comment.
Nargi said if he were Hardin, he would sit down and ask his client if it was proper to settle the defamation suit.
"If Roger was my client, I'd say, 'Look, let's sit down and find out what's out there,'" Nargi said. "'How many women are there? A girl a day? Every 15 minutes is one going to materialize from a bar or a trailer?' Hardin needs to find out what's out there."
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Roger Clemens linked to John Daly's ex
BY TERI THOMPSON, MICHAEL O'KEEFFE and NATHANIEL VINTON in New York and CHRISTIAN RED in Nashville
NY DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS
Thursday, May 1st 2008, 1:23 AM
Roger Clemens has been linked to golfer John Daly's ex-wife, Paulette Dean Daly.
John Daly and his ex-wife, Paulette Dean Daly
For Roger Clemens, the hits just keep on coming.
Several sources told the Daily News Wednesday that Clemens had a relationship with Paulette Dean Daly, a former wife of champion golfer John Daly.
The sources said Clemens, a married father of four, arranged trips to Anaheim Stadium for Daly - the latest woman to emerge as an alleged Rocket flame - to watch him pitch forthe Yankees against the Angels. Sources also said he spent time with her in Palm Springs, Calif.
The pair met at the Bob Hope Chrysler Classic, a Palm Springs golf tournament that Paulette Dean Daly has been involved with for many years - including stints as a "Classic Girl," one of the beautiful women who help in ceremonial duties at the event, sources said.
"Yeah, I've known Roger quite a while and we are friends," Daly said yesterday.
She declined to elaborate on the nature of her relationship with the pitcher, but did not deny allegations from several sources that it was romantic and included financial support.
Asked if she had been romantically involved with Clemens, Daly replied: "You know what, I'm really uncomfortable talking about this. I'm just going to have to say, 'No comment.'
"I know Roger. I consider him a good friend. That's all I'm comfortable saying."
Clemens' relationship with Daly is said to have come after the end of her marriage to the hard-driving golfer. That was on the heels of a grim incident at the 1997 Players Championship, where the golfer was taken to a hospital with alcohol poisoning.
The beauty married the golfer in Las Vegas in January 1995 at the Little Church of the West. He wore blue jeans, cowboy boots, a dark jacket and no tie. She wore white.
Daly is still involved with the Bob Hope Chrysler Classic as an organizer of famously lavish parties there.
News reports have described Clemens as being in attendance as recently as two years ago, dancing around the party with an 8-foot-long boa constrictor around his neck.
The revelations of Clemens' dalliances come as he and his lawyer, Rusty Hardin, pursue a defamation suit against former trainer Brian McNamee, who has accused Clemens of using performance-enhancing drugs.
In an effort to discredit McNamee in January, Hardin circulated information about a 2001 incident in Florida where McNamee was investigated for sexual assault but was never charged.
Now Clemens' flawed past is coming to light, which legal experts say is inevitable for anyone pursuing a defamation case because a successful injury claim depends on an undamaged reputation.
Hardin has argued that Clemens' personal life is irrelevant to the issue of steroid and human-growth hormone use - a notion that draws scoffing from Ernest Nargi, a New York lawyer and former prosecutor.
"In any court, and in any deposition, this would be explored - it goes to the heart of the truth," Nargi said. "If he's not going to be honest with his wife, who is he going to be honest with? He's taken a vow with his wife."
McNamee's lawyers have said they will pursue sworn testimony from any mistresses who emerge, including testimony from country singer Mindy McCready, who on Monday confirmed the details of a Daily News exclusive story describing her long-term affair with Clemens.
McCready, who has added New York-based publicist Susan Blond and consultant Mike Vaden to her team, recorded tracks for a new album at the Sound Kitchen studio in Franklin, Tenn., yesterday, doing her best to transition into a career revival.
After just over three hours of recording, McCready ducked into her car.
Clemens, who is under FBI investigation for perjury, has not spoken publicly this week about his situation.
Hardin did not respond to requests for comment.
Nargi said if he were Hardin, he would sit down and ask his client if it was proper to settle the defamation suit.
"If Roger was my client, I'd say, 'Look, let's sit down and find out what's out there,'" Nargi said. "'How many women are there? A girl a day? Every 15 minutes is one going to materialize from a bar or a trailer?' Hardin needs to find out what's out there."
HH:
Because he is a republican, a friend of Bush, arrogant, white, seemingly a p rick, cocky, from Texas, and a southerner, and probably made a lot of enemies a long the way. Any other questions.
Eddie
Because he is a republican, a friend of Bush, arrogant, white, seemingly a p rick, cocky, from Texas, and a southerner, and probably made a lot of enemies a long the way. Any other questions.
Eddie
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Why have a private jet if you aren't going to cheat on your wife?
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball...al_women_f.html
Roger Clemens hung out with several attractive women in his baseball career, including beauties in California and Boston and a former Manhattan bartender named Angela Moyer.
Clemens, 45, flew the women around the country on his private jet and bought expensive jewelry for at least one of them, a source told the Daily News Tuesday.
As the Daily News first reported Sunday, the Rocket carried on a decade-long affair with country singer Mindy McCready, who confirmed the romantic relationship Monday.
Moyer, a 30-year-old Realtor who lives in the Harrisburg, Pa., area, worked as a bartender from 2000 to 2004 at Sutton Place, a yuppie East Side watering hole. That's roughly the same time the pitching legend played for the Yankees.
Moyer acknowledged she knew Clemens, but has declined to discuss the relationship. She was spotted driving up to her father's apartment house Tuesday night, but said only "no comment" when asked about Clemens. She then sped off.
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Why have a private jet if you aren't going to cheat on your wife?
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball...al_women_f.html
Roger Clemens hung out with several attractive women in his baseball career, including beauties in California and Boston and a former Manhattan bartender named Angela Moyer.
Clemens, 45, flew the women around the country on his private jet and bought expensive jewelry for at least one of them, a source told the Daily News Tuesday.
As the Daily News first reported Sunday, the Rocket carried on a decade-long affair with country singer Mindy McCready, who confirmed the romantic relationship Monday.
Moyer, a 30-year-old Realtor who lives in the Harrisburg, Pa., area, worked as a bartender from 2000 to 2004 at Sutton Place, a yuppie East Side watering hole. That's roughly the same time the pitching legend played for the Yankees.
Moyer acknowledged she knew Clemens, but has declined to discuss the relationship. She was spotted driving up to her father's apartment house Tuesday night, but said only "no comment" when asked about Clemens. She then sped off.
