Are you for or against spanking your children?
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The news regarding the Viking's star RB gives the NFL another image hit this week, goes to show running a football doesn't raise life IQ. Peterson will plead not guilty as he thinks using a switch is acceptable punishment although he admits remorse via text message to the child's mother after the incident had happened. So the question is, what happens now? Does the NFL automatically give Peterson a 6 game or even a season long suspension? Do the Vikings release or continue to deactivate him? Do the organizations have to wait until a court decides? You can bet any type of harsh punishment will be met by the NFLPA requesting due process and that could take months. The real tragedy isn't the physical abuse, those wounds will be healed in time. The real problem is the child's psychological well being especially if the boy's accounts of leaves in the mouth, being punched in the face, and being scared of daddy are true.
Is this worse than the Ray Rice situation because it involves a child? There is a difference of opinion, while many are disgusted by the discipline there is an outcry on blogs and message boards supporting Peterson. Many citing whoopings as the norm for discipline, "It's what I got." Weather you agree or disagree this type of discipline should never be placed on a child especially a 4 year old boy. Childhood should be the happiest times of your life filled with great childhood memories, not whoopings.
Bleedingpurple
Is this worse than the Ray Rice situation because it involves a child? There is a difference of opinion, while many are disgusted by the discipline there is an outcry on blogs and message boards supporting Peterson. Many citing whoopings as the norm for discipline, "It's what I got." Weather you agree or disagree this type of discipline should never be placed on a child especially a 4 year old boy. Childhood should be the happiest times of your life filled with great childhood memories, not whoopings.
Bleedingpurple
Great comment.
I think that the abuse of a child is worse than abuse of a woman/significant other. The child has no choice who is in their house or taking care of him/her. The significant other at least has chosen and (hopefully) can escape the abuser.
I have twin daughters, five years old. I would never dream of hitting them, it has never come into my mind. Sure, I have occasionally wanted to sell them on Ebay, but all kids drive the parents nuts from time to time.
There were four of us children when we were growing up. My father was violent with us all and our mother. It was a very unhappy, stressful home. I provide a home environment totally the opposite for my girls. The damage my father did to us all was incalculable. My wife's main complaint about my parenting is that I am pathetically soft and indulgent towards our girls, but she knows why.
There is no excuse EVER for striking a child (or a woman for that matter). You must have the self control and maturity to deal with your emotions in a non-violent way. Men who do these things are almost always simply nasty bullies who MUST be confronted.
No excuses?.EVER.
Sorry about what you endured. My father was abused by my step grandfather and I never forgave him for that, plus I have a lot of resentment towards my grandmother as well for allowing that to happen.
I myself am not against a quick spank on the butt. In this day in age though there are many more avenues. I have witnessed where timeout hasn't been effective but taking away electronics is quite effective
Just got this from a friend: a female
I was slapped many times across my face by my mother. My dad actually beat me twice, went after my brother with a baseball bat one time, brother outran him.
I never wanted children, we never really bonded. My sister spanked her kids too, they are close now, joined at the hip. We are distant for many reasons. Spanking him is not one of them. I never beat him but I was strict.
I was slapped many times across my face by my mother. My dad actually beat me twice, went after my brother with a baseball bat one time, brother outran him.
I never wanted children, we never really bonded. My sister spanked her kids too, they are close now, joined at the hip. We are distant for many reasons. Spanking him is not one of them. I never beat him but I was strict.
There is a big difference IMO b/w a quick spank and using a belt/switch, etc. Research has shown that physical punishment can be detrimental down the line- not shocking but it has been studied extensively.
Those with girls- well, having both boys and a girl you just look at your girls differently than your boys. Is that fair? Maybe not. But I also know that my boys do things and earn punishment that neither my daughter or nieces ever do.
Unfortunately there has to be another level of punishment to a point. I posted in the other thread, I've only spanked my kids 3 times. I felt horrible the moment it was done and for a good while after. But, each of the 3 instances the spanks were earned- for something above and beyond normal misbehavior. Which, in my opinion, warranted a response above and beyond the normal time out.
Only 1 of the 3 times I spanked when emotional (angry). I learned my lesson. The other 2 times I sat my sons down after I cooled off, asked them if they understood why there were to be spanked, reiterated why they were going to be spanked, spanked them 1 time, open handed, bare ass. Left the room, let them cry for 10 mins. Came back, hugged them, told them I loved them, and asked them again if they understood what they did to earn that spanking.
I still don't know if it's right to do and that was a while back. After reading studies and doing some research my wife and I decided that we would not choose that route anymore.
Those without kids- your opinions don't really hold much water to a conversation like this because you can not understand or imagine what parenting is like and what you would do until you are in those situations.
I have never been around a well behaved child in my entire life who was not spanked. Every child I know who is growing up with parents who don't spank is a holy terror who does not listen or obey.
It's possible. It just takes much, much more effort. That's one knock on consistent physical punishment. It's lazy parenting. Being good parents requires CONSTANT attention, constant instruction. I've found lazy parents let things slide all day and then blow up at some point. You've always got to be "on" to be a good parent.
Excellent post Saint.
Good parenting takes an immense amount of time and patience. Not to mention consistency.
Bleedingpurple, I some ways I don't disagree with you either. There is a world of difference in a quick spank on the butt to get a child's attention and a beating. Trust me, I really do understand that difference. Mi wife will occasionally lightly slap the girls on their leg to get their attention, she knows I don't approve so doesn't do it often. My wife is a very gentle person, but as has been said earlier, kids can be VERY exasperating.
One good question asked above is weather it makes a difference if they are boys or girls. I have often wondered if I would be so patient and gentle if I had a boy, I will never know this for sure. It is just unimaginable that I would strike a girl/woman, but I wonder if I had a boy if I would be so circumspect. I think this is a great question.
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"He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes." ~ Proverbs 13:24
I was spanked as a child...probably deserved it. Think Ive turned out pretty normal. I have an 11yo son, and a 9yo daughter. I have given my son 1 swat on the ass 1 time. He hit his sister when they were 6 and 4. To my knowledge hes never done it since. I felt terrible for it, but felt it was necessary to let him know you dont strike women/females. Now some will argue that doing so reinforces that swatting him gives him the impression its ok to be physical. So far it hasnt turned out that way. Bottom line is there is no blue print for parenting, each situation and persons are different. There are definitely lines that should not be crossed. JMO.
Your grandson is in danger every day he doesn't have his vaccine's. I know Portland is full of "Progressive" types, but vaccines are important. Look into it. Maybe focus some of your attention toward a loved one? Maybe not so much what Buddy thinks right now is important.
Hope that helps,
J
You're a trouble maker Joker. You follow me around starting shit. What's your problem.
Jack & IE please ban Joker from this thread.
ps......I don't tell my 35 year old son and daughter-law what to do. It's up to them how they raise their kid while you beat yours.
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