AWESOME news!!! Williams back to USC!!!

[Scott4USC]

Its official!!!!!

The NCAA has given Mike Williams an opportunity to be reinstated. Mike has to start school on Wed. at USC and get no less than a B in his 2 summer classes. So the ball is now in Mike's court.....
*per USC insider and Williams will be on radio at 3:30pm Eastern to confirm rumor!

This could mean back 2 back National Championships!!!! If USC was the heavy favorite to win it all without Mike Williams, what is USC now? A lock? adlock:

:Yep: :thumb: :clap: :spotting:

 

[Blackman]

This leads me to believe that USC has let him back into school but no word on his athletic standings:

SportsLine.com wire reports

LOS ANGELES -- Wide receiver Mike Williams is enrolled at Southern California for summer school, but there's no word from the NCAA on whether he will be allowed to play college football next season.

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Williams, who was kept out of the NFL Draft by the courts, starts school next week, school spokesman Tim Tessalone said Thursday.

But Tessalone said the university hasn't heard from the NCAA on Williams' status.

"It's ultimately the NCAA's decision," he said.

The All-America sophomore left USC shortly after the spring semester began.

He hired an agent and followed Ohio State running back Maurice Clarett in declaring his eligibility for the NFL draft after a federal judge ruled that younger players could turn pro.

But that ruling was stayed, and the 2nd U.S. Court of Appeals in New York City decided May 24 that the NFL has the right to determine when players can enter the league.

The NFL bars players from turning pro until they are three years out of high school, and Clarett and Williams each have been out of high school for just two years.

 

[Blackman]

I'm going to be suprised honestly if the NCAA lets him back --- he did hire an agent and to make this exception could open a giant loophole for others in my opinion.

They could be playing with fire here.

 

[Avalanche]

Re: AWESOME news!!! Williams back to USC!!!

This could mean back 2 back National Championships!!!! If USC was the heavy favorite to win it all without Mike Williams, what is USC now? A lock? adlock:

Scott you are a certifiable joker. You need to win a legitimate national championship before you start talking about back to back anything. The only thing you guys are are a lock for is to win the Pac 10 conference. Your schedule is a joke. Where is USC ranked in SOS for 2004??? Not even mentioned in the top 50.

 

[Scott4USC]

Avalanche

Scott you are a certifiable joker. You need to win a legitimate national championship before you start talking about back to back anything.

Thanks for calling me a cerifiable joker. :nutkick

You are def. in the minority with your opinion about USC not winning a legitimate National Championship last season and for disagreeing that USC cannot win back to back National Championships. You're pretty funny Avalanche!!!! :lol2

USC National Champions

SI National Championship Package

Like it or not, if USC or LSU win the National Championship next season, it will be back 2 back National Championships. Always has been and always will be this way until their is a playoff system in college football. It is you're choice if you want to be ignorant.

The only thing you guys are are a lock for is to win the Pac 10 conference. Your schedule is a joke. Where is USC ranked in SOS for 2004??? Not even mentioned in the top 50.

Last season USC had a pre-season SOS ranked in the top 10 of college football. USC ended up having a SOS ranked #32. So much for the validity of pre-season rankings. I "think" I remember reading USC had a pre-season SOS ranked somewhere between 30-50. Someone posted it on here. You brought up this pre-season SOS but you have nothing to back up your claim. Not very smart. :nooo:

 

[Avalanche]

This was from wareagle's post the last time you babbled on about your phantom national championship. By the way Scott, I don't care about 2003. We are in 2004.

Originally posted by wareagle

Scotty since you love the numbers game....take a look at this and tell me why USC is not #1, #10, #25, #40, or #50



2004 Strength Of Schedule

1. Arkansas 1547
2. Georgia Tech 1483
3. Virginia Tech 1482
4. Kansas 1479
5. Texas A&M 1478
6. North Carolina State 1468
7. Notre Dame 1463
8. Oregon State 1462
9. Texas Tech 1422
10. Florida 1382
11. North Carolina 1368
12. Vanderbilt 1360
13. South Carolina 1357
14. Clemson (tie) 1350
15. Florida State (tie) 1350
16. Northwestern 1347
17. Arizona 1337
18. Wake Forest 1323
19. Georgia 1322
20. Baylor 1316
21. Kentucky 1311
22. Virginia 1307
23. Michigan State 1280
24. Arizona State 1275
25. Maryland 1264
26. Iowa 1262
27. Ohio State 1250
28. Stanford 1236
29. Miami FL 1231
30. Indiana 1228
31. Duke 1219
32. Auburn 1218
33. Tennessee 1211
34. Colorado 1210
35. Purdue (tie) 1209
36. Penn State (tie) 1209
37. Washington 1207
38. Louisiana State 1200
39. UCLA 1198
40. Houston 1196
41. Oklahoma 1172
42. Michigan (tie) 1171
43. Illinois (tie) 1171
44. Alabama 1147
45. Mississippi 1131
46. Oklahoma State 1126
47. California 1118
48. Minnesota 1114
49. Mississippi State 1108
50. Brigham Young 1093
51. Nebraska 1092
52. Wisconsin 1086
53. Louisiana Tech 1085
54. Iowa State 1081
55. Washington State 1080
56. Colorado State 1070
57. Texas 1060
58. Oregon 1053
59. Kansas State 1037
60. Syracuse 1028
61. Missouri 1010
62. Temple 984
63. Marshall 974
64. Southern Cal 944
65. UNLV 942

 

[Scott4USC]

Thanks for providing the list. USC has a #64 pre-season ranked SOS. Not USC's fault. USC tried to schedule Miami, OU, and Michigan and all 3 backed out. USC wanted to play 2 of those 3. Nobody wants to play USC. If USC scheduled 2 of those 3, USC would easily have a top 20 SOS. USC scheduled V-Tech and CSU since all 3 above wanted no part. Can't say USC wanted to play #64 ranked SOS.

People are predicting CSU, BYU and ND not to be very strong next year and USC plays all 3 OOC. CSU was the only added game and ND is USC rival. BYU has strong traditional program who may have down year again, i dunno. USC plays @V-Tech and @BYU but I do not think they factored in away/home games. BCS last year did not.

USC also misses out playing Oregon who is suppose to be a top 3 pac 10 school next season.

USC has played #1 SOS from 1975-1999. So USC having pre-season SOS #64 is quite an extreme for USC standards.

 

[Avalanche]

If USC scheduled 2 of those 3, USC would easily have a top 20 SOS.

USC has played #1 SOS from 1975-1999. So USC having pre-season SOS #64 is quite an extreme for USC standards.

Key words: "IF" and "WOULD EASILY HAVE"

#1 SOS from 1975 to 1999?????? That is 100% false in every single facet whatsoever. Prove it. BRING IT, DONT SING IT. You have no documentation for any of what you are saying at all. This must have been a typo on your part. To say USC has had the #1 SOS from 1975 to 1999 is a complete joke.

Spin it all you want, but your SOS is pathetic. It is weak and without road bumps. V Tech is the toughest game on your schedule.

 

[Scott4USC]

Avalanche :nono: :nono: :nono: :nono: :nono:

#1 SOS from 1975 to 1999?????? That is 100% false in every single facet whatsoever. Prove it. BRING IT, DONT SING IT. You have no documentation for any of what you are saying at all. This must have been a typo on your part. To say USC has had the #1 SOS from 1975 to 1999 is a complete joke.

Top 5 SOS for Period: 1975-1999

#1 USC
#2 Michigan
#3 Ohio St.
#4 Notre Dame
#5 UCLA

Period 1975-1999

Top 5 SOS for Period: 2000-2003

#1 USC
#2 UCLA
#3 Stanford
#4 CAL
#5 Florida St.

4 of top 5 all Pac 10 schools!!!!!!!

Period: 2000-2003

Top 5 SOS for Period: 1990-1999

#1 USC
#2 UCLA
#3 Washington
#4 Florida St.
#5 Stanford

4 of top 5 SOS all Pac 10 schools!!!!!!!!!

Period: 1990-1999

:142hail:

Decade Team Rankings ---> Sorted by Schedule Points ---> Click Decade of your Choice

 

[Avalanche]

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

so how did you go from #1 to #64 in one year?

Spare me the babble about USC's SOS from previous years. Your 2004 schedule is a joke. You guys better go undefeated or you will be on the outside looking in just like in 2003 (and since the 1970s for that matter).

 

[Scott4USC]

Avalanche you are not making sense.

Spare me the babble about USC's SOS from previous years.

But you said this.....

#1 SOS from 1975 to 1999?????? That is 100% false in every single facet whatsoever. Prove it. BRING IT, DONT SING IT. You have no documentation for any of what you are saying at all. This must have been a typo on your part. To say USC has had the #1 SOS from 1975 to 1999 is a complete joke.

So I proved I was right and your accusation of me wrong. You go "blah blah blah" instead of being a man and admitting you were wrong and I was right. But go ahead and keep calling me names, such as "a cerifiable joker."

Your 2004 schedule is a joke. You guys better go undefeated or you will be on the outside looking in just like in 2003 (and since the 1970s for that matter).

I think you "might" be right that USC will have to go undefeated to win the National Championship this upcoming season. This will be the first year under Carroll/Chow that they won't have to spend the 1st half of the year teaching from scratch. Both offense and defense is expected to produce right away. Last season was a rebuilding year at USC and USC won a National Championship. Lets see what happens when USC expects to win the Championship. Should be exciting!

so how did you go from #1 to #64 in one year?

I think you are putting "too" much stock into pre-season SOS. Remember last season USC had a top 10 SOS and ended up being #31. So do not put too much stock into pre-season SOS and as I explained before, the top programs in the nation want no part of USC (Miami, OU, and Michigan). Beano Cook said "if USC could, they would prob. schedule a professional team, they are afraid of nobody."

 

[THE KOD]

Re: AWESOME news!!! Williams back to USC!!!

Its official!!!!!

The NCAA has given Mike Williams an opportunity to be reinstated. Mike has to start school on Wed. at USC and get no less than a B in his 2 summer classes. So the ball is now in Mike's court.....
This could mean back 2 back National Championships!!!! If USC was the heavy favorite to win it all without Mike Williams, what is USC now? A lock? adlock:

.........................................................................................

I wonder what the 2 courses are ?

Home Economics 101

Sports at USC 101


Got to think that Mike Williams will get a C in at least one of these. I wouldnt count the chickens before they hatch with this dumb ass jock USC player

 

[Scott4USC]

Avalanche

Pac 10 SOS for each Team according to Sporting News CFB

National SOS:

Arizona #1
Oregon St. #4
ASU #11
UCLA #22
Cal #24
Stanford #31
USC #32
Washington #35
WSU #54
Oregon #74

Seems like Oregon is gettin job'd on their SOS ranking...playing Oklahoma in Norman should at LEAST get you a top 40 ranking. Don't you think? But then again they do not play USC.

Side note:
Sooners for ABC cash. Per Fox sports-

"ABC picked up the Oregon-Oklahoma game on September 18 for a 3:30 p.m. ET start. Oregon coach Mike Bellotti originally agreed to the game with the stipulation that it be played at night to reduce the effects of the Norman heat. But because the game now is a split national telecast, the Ducks' paycheck could reach as much as $1 million. OU will play at Oregon in 2008, or in 2006 if the NCAA approves a permanent expansion of the schedule to 12 games"

*Something inside tells me Sooners will do everything possible to not travel to Oregon. Look what happened to Michigan last season.

 

[osuman29]

west virginia would crush usc

 

[trump tight]

*Something inside tells me Sooners will do everything possible to not travel to Oregon. Look what happened to Michigan last season. [/B]

These are signed contracts. A legally binding agreement between both of the schools. We discussed this many threads ago. These are called "home at home" series, as I explained. The reason they are signed, and put together, is for both teams to get a chance at the other one at their home. OU and Oregon have done this many times in the past, and OU has fulfilled their end of the bargin each time Oregon played in Norman, & vice versa.

I do not like your insinuation of Oklahoma ducking out of contracts. They will fulfill it when the time comes. As I stated once before, it was easy for carole to lay down that challenge to LSU/OU last year, knowing all the well, that it wouldn't happen, and if he was in their situation, he wouldn't do it either. OU will play USC eventually - hopefully next January in the Orange Bowl. If not then, they will get each other in a non conference match-up. (next year on Sept. 17th, you get to watch OU at the Rose Bowl when the Sooners fulfill the other end of their agreement with UCLA) Until that time, please stop with the insinuation/guessing game about what OU INTENDS to do. In this arena you know next to nothing, and your statement about it shows this clearly.

 

[Scott4USC]

trump tight

Sorry if I offended you and maybe I should not have implied OU getting out of the contract. I thought OU OOC schedule last season was good but usually they play soft OOC opponents like this upcoming season. I do know OU tried to buy UCLA out (pathetic). I do know that Oregon signed the series contract to play at night and OU wants in in the day along with ABC. I do know OU had 2 open dates this season and USC has 2 open dates as well. For some reason OU does not want to play USC. Do they really want to have a repeat last year? Why not get tested early in the season. Woulda been very very easy to schedule and the biggest game of the year. Prob. even bigger than the BCS Title Game (unless USC plays OU). Oh well. Until their is a playoff system, I cannot really blame teams for not wanting stiff OOC competition.

OU is gonna be really good this year. I do fear your QB. He cannot read tough defensive schemes. Not a good thing. I also think OU is putting so much weight on Peterson to bring back their running game. He is a super stud running back but only a freshman. I can't wait to see him in action. He almost went to USC but I think he made the right decision in going to OU. Defense should be strong and I like the DC you hired from Nebraska. Very smart move. I also am looking forward to seeing how the new JC DB does for you. OCHENEGA (however you spell it). I wished he came to USC. He is suppose to be great. I think OU has fewer question marks coming into the season than USC although I think USC is more talented and better coached. If I was fortunate enough to choose an opponent for USC in orange bowl, I def. want it to be OU with Miami 2nd and LSU 3rd.

 

[Avalanche]

Scott how many times have we been over this. What good does it do an Oklahoma or LSU to schedule USC? No good at all. Their SOS is good enough to get them to the BCS NC game already.

USC is the one clawing and trying to get their SOS up so what happened to them last year doesn't happen to them again. It is a simple concept that you obviously can't grasp.

Why on earth would a team from the SEC or Big 12 that is a contender feel the need to schedule USC? Both the SEC and Big 12 have to earn their stripes in a much tougher conference than the Pac 10... and THEN... they have to prove their manhood again in an extra game for the Big 12/SEC Championship.

You make it out like people want "no part" of USC as if the Rubbers have people shaking in their cleats and are afraid to play them. That's a joke. I can assure you LSU and OU and the big contenders in the Big 12 and SEC have no fear of USC whatsoever.

Both USC and OU are scheduling the way they want in order to get the best chance to get to the NC game. USC has to schedule tough OOC opponents to make up for that creampuff Pac 10 schedule.... Oklahoma and LSU etc Big 12/SEC teams dont need to go that route because the conference slate is much tougher than the weak Pac 10.

HOW MANY FREAKING TIMES DO YOU NEED THIS EXPLAINED TO YOU? YOU OBVIOUSLY JUST CHOOSE TO IGNORE IT AND MAKE IT SOUND LIKE PEOPLE ARE AFRAID OR WANT "NO PART" OF THE RUBBERS.

Get a life

 

[Scott4USC]

Poor poor Avalanche

Scott how many times have we been over this. What good does it do an Oklahoma or LSU to schedule USC?

That is my point. Different philosophies. I am used to my team and conference (Pac 10) wanting to play great opponents. I would enjoy seeing a USC vs OU matchup just like I enjoyed USC playing CO, KSU, ND, Auburn in the last 2 years. OU fans and program are only concerned about getting to the National Championship game. Let me fill you in on a secret. If your team goes undefeated during the season and you are from a BCS conference, you will be playing in the Championship game. If you have 1 loss that is when you need schedule points. VERY low prob. that 3 teams finish the season undefeated. So why not play the best during the season? USC might not play OU in Orange Bowl. It be a great game and isn?t that was college football is all about? Playing great games?

USC is the one clawing and trying to get their SOS up so what happened to them last year doesn't happen to them again. It is a simple concept that you obviously can't grasp.

WRONG!!!! LSU was only ,15 BCS pts ahead of USC last year and "everything" went against USC last year. Very unlikely that will ever happen again in my lifetime and if it does, so be it.

USC does not need to add OU, Miami etc.. to help bolster their SOS. If USC goes undefeated, they will be playing in title game. If they add OU and lose, it will not hurt them too much and if they don?t make it they deserve it. WIN WIN SITUATION and it is great for the fans. Maybe you do not understand the BCS system. A ?close? loss to a very good team hurts you more than a win vs a crappy team. Therefore, USC has a lot more to lose by scheduling OU, Miami, etc? USC likes to play the best and be challenged. USC believes they are the best and if they get beat, obviously they are not. No team in the country plans on going to the title game by losing 1 game.

You make it out like people want "no part" of USC as if the Rubbers have people shaking in their cleats and are afraid to play them

Writing is on the wall!!!!!

Both USC and OU are scheduling the way they want in order to get the best chance to get to the NC game. USC has to schedule tough OOC opponents to make up for that creampuff Pac 10 schedule.... Oklahoma and LSU etc Big 12/SEC teams dont need to go that route because the conference slate is much tougher than the weak Pac 10.

:142lmao:

TOO FUNNY! Your statement is completely wrong. Pac 10 teams have a lot tougher SOS than teams from Big 12 and SEC. How about 90% of the Pac 10 conference has played tougher SOS in the last 13 years!!!!!! Cannot have those numbers playing in a weak conference. If that Big 12 or SEC is soooo tough, how come 90% of the Pac 10 conference has played tougher SOS???? Again you have ZERO substance backing up your flawed opinion. You are making yourself look silly without even knowing it. Now you know!!!!!! I think I am done interacting with you because you are showing a low reading comprehension. These questions you are asking and statements you have been making have been answered already.

 

[THE KOD]

west virginia would crush usc

Wilson

I read that WV maybe be a surprise team to watch this year.

The Atlanta Falcons got Quincy Wilson in the draft. Guy looks like a load.

I am not sure of his chances to play though unless there are alot of injuries.

Is he capable of starting in the NFL ?

just wondering

 

[crimson]

no matter how much you argue and stand up for your team, there are some things that are evident.

you are right about no one wanting to play usc, they are a good team and with their weak schedule they will not get banged up, leinart wont take any hard hits, and they will be able to look ahead a week or two in some cases, although not a good idea.

the thing is if usc were in the sec they would have to play every week in and out consistently with teams that are just as big as them and have secondaries that can minimize williams productivity. they would get more banged up and the league would take a toll on them as they are not as physically equipped as those teams that year in and year out get the pounding that sec football brings.

the thing about no one wanting to play usc is true about so many teams that it is invalid. people opt out of playing tennessee, georgia, alabama, florida, lsu, and numerous other teams also. your core schedule is your conference and your conference is comparible to the c-usa.

sorry, just had to let you know there is a reason why yall werent true national champions last year and why lsu was in the bowl game, as well as oklahoma.