Belmont - 3 races - Sat.. plenty of blah

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I don't know if anybody reads all this stuiff, but here goes.....

I usually don't care to mess with the other races on the cards for the Derby or Preakness, but today we're talking N.Y. racing and I got picks for a couple of the undercards... and the BIG UN.

First, the BIG UN:

The Belmont, just sharing my ideas about playing ihis race -

I was a regular at the track for the Belmont for over 20 years and ever since the day I tried AND DID beat a HUGE favorite for this race... I've played it the same way ever since -> try to beat the favorite. Yes, I lost a lot more times than I won, BUT, I nailed my share of big tunas too and one HUMUNGOUS whale. I think this race is definitely the handicapper's friend. Just about every one of the horse's 3 previous races were races that they were absolutely ready to give their best and definitely TRIED THEIR BEST. The races didn't necessarily have to be triple crown races, just top graded events. It's highly probable that how they did in their last 3 races is what you'll get today cause none of those races were warmup races for the big event - each was the big event and today's race may be the biggest event for each one. Not thinking ONLY where they finished... it's how they ran those races and HOW THEY USUALLY RUN (flashy early speed, makes BIG moves during a race, finishes like a rocket from way back, plodders/grinders (like "pressers"), etc.

I've walked that track and I believe it hasn't been completely resurfaced or rebuilt since I did. And when I did, I took a look, from right on the track, at the long backstretch and the WIDE, sweeping turns. That track is huge. Man it looked like it musta been a torture test over the deep, deep, surface. And it was a hot and sunny, fast-track day too. Felt like I was walking on quicksand. IMO, which may be kinda wierd, I believe the kind of horse to look for in this race and on this track is the PLODDER. Actually, maybe "Presser" is a better term. But,a fast PLODDER. You know, like a robot horse - no neck hairs flying in the wind, no gunning the engine during the race, no booster rockets. I look for the horse that only uses up his energy for navigating that track, not for putting on a show. Better yet if he's a big, strong robot/mule. They run like fast ROBOTS; nuthin fazes them - not even the deep track; they finish the race a bit faster (and only a bit) like they started the race. TO ME, Acclaimed and even Secretariat were those kinda horses. Yeah, I watched each carefully in person and on tv. ESPECIALLY Acclaimed who I told folks that he looks like a robot mule out there. A FAST, steady, consistent robot mule.
Asfaras the "beat the favorite" goes, this year's competitors fit's the plan. Yeah, the Animal and Nehro and even Shakleford do look to be a little better than the others. BTW, it's only the lack of workouts that scare me regarding Shakelford. My figures say he's NOT a pretender in this race like many cappers think. But look at the speed figures, the pace, the previous finishes for just about every one of the entries. There's just too little difference between most of the horses in this race to accept favoritism.

The plicks:
Two double digit morning liners one way or another. Win or lose, I think both have a better chance than their odds by a wider margin than the others...

No.4, Santiva, 15-1 and prob. better odds than that. Watched this one, checked his pp lines and his running style. He fits my "plodder system". Bridgmohan rides him well and his Derby race was much better than it looks on paper. Distance should not be a problem for this one considering his breeding and, except for the Bluegrass, he only accelerated during his races from start to finish, no backing up at any point during his races except for the Bluegrass. Oh, - -> he had good excuses for the Bluegrass exception too. Besides, his name reminds of the "WHALE" I caught in this race back in 2002. :)

What time is it?.... remember him? The BOXER that is; I wanna forget him.

No. 10, Mucho MACHO Man looks good. Similar to Santiva and better early speed, but he'll need to use some of that early speed from post 10. Morning line odds of 10-1 is wishful thinking, but a race like this attracts plenty of bettors and that should help getting a decent price cause plenty of those bettors will likely shy away from a runner with double digit odds next to his name on the program or newspaper. I got a feeling he may be a better exacta or trifecta facta... IF he looks good on the track - maybe a weiner?

Maybe a good play would be to use each with one of the BIG 3 - Animal, Nehro, Shackle? i may do that plus side, staight action on each of the two plicks. Not sure how I'm gonna play it yet.

Exacta/Trifecta boosters..
Maybe one of these two will make a good booster with one of the plicks or with one of the favorites...
nos. 2 or 3. NO straight plays on either though.

Of the newbies in this race, no. 3,RULER ON ICE (20-1) may be the one to stick his nose in the picture.

Other races -

Race 1
3-6-10 (iffy race and not necessarily in the order I have listed)


Race 9
1-2-5 (not so iffy)

G.L.
 

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Get this

Get this

I DON'T want to throw anybody off a good horse that's running in the Belmont. Besides, everytime I read something like this, I dunno if I'm sposed to play the "N" hoss cause his letter is sooo overdue. Or am I sposed to forget playing him cause "Hell, what's one more time with a streak like that going.:mj03:
I just had to post this cause it's really something. Plus I got into the letter thing (NEVER did that before) when I metioned something about "the winner would start with the letter "S" somewhere around here recently".

How bout this one ->No horse who's name begins with the letter "N" has won the Belmont since 1956. Since then, they are 0 for 11. Furthermore, it has been almost 50 years since a horse with a name beginning with the letter "N" has won any of the triple crown races. :scared

WOW !
 
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WTF?? ... MUDDY

WTF?? ... MUDDY

Thanks Bobby and Hogman.

Wasn't thinking of mud for today. I don't know if that will help any of them in the BIG UN. I did put in the two undercard races, gotta SEE the BIG UNS first. DID put win plays on the two picks though; NO WAY I'm gonna let my original picks beat me this time.

Like that there avatar ya got there, Bobby. :0034
 
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What a mess

What a mess

SHEEET, now I really am as confused as a cow on astroturf. (water, water, everywhere but not a drop down here) SUN-A-MA-BEACH

Ruler on Ice - 2 mud starts, 1 first, 1 second :facepalm:

Brilliant Speed - by Roberto :facepalm:

Monzon - by Gulch, 1 off track start-> wins it. :facepalm:

Isn't He Perfect by Pleasant Colony :facepalm: :facepalm:


This is getting to be TOO muckin futch.
 

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Going with you on the big race, Jombo.

Good luck, sir, and thanks for posting your thoughts :toast:

$3 triple box 4-6-9-10-12

$5 ex box 4-6-9-10-12

Let's hit this bitch :toast:
 

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YIKES

YIKES

NOW I'm tooting some big bucks along with a couple of well wishers. :scared

Here's the deal...

- I just hit the 8th, wheeled the no. 2 top/bot and also played him Win/Place. Couldn't post it; not enough time. Can't believe the payoff on that zacta, coulda swore I was at Philly and definitely NOT N.Y. NO complaints though even if the zactas were $2 tickets and the w/pl were $5. :)
I'm not very confident about anything going on in N.Y. in the slop.. but the track SEEMS to be drying out fast and the races look true.

- I hit the Belmont BIG TIME in 2002, one pick -> one jackpot winnah.

- I LOST the Belmont for the next 6 years straight.

- I nailed the "OTHER BIRD" in 2009 for a very nice payoff.

NOW, how did I catch the winnahs? I caught the WHALE by capping, but Summer Bird and today's 8th race was by SPOTTING, ONLY. Didya notice how ALL the others in today's 8th looked like deadbeats, but not so much the no. 2. Didya see him take a dump when he got on the track? Did ya see how he runs in the slop from the pps? Do you know who Dominguez is?

I'm gonna try to post what I SEE as soon as I can for the Belmont. With only minutes to post, it might not do any good.. and, OF COURSE there IS CRYING in hoss wacin. BUT, it's all worthwhile methinks and we're all here to help each other.

G.L.
 

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Let's to a TEST run for the 10th.

BTW, the no. 6 looked best in the 9th, didn't bother to play him and since he finished 2nd ... probably made no difference.

OK, not counting the 8th race winner, the score is ..
Capping 0 pts.
Spotting 1/2 pt. :)

I"M just gonna keep it here and add what I SEE for the 10th....BEFORE I do, I'm gonna mention that I wish that Gio Point wasn't in this race. Could upset the apple cart.

waiting to see them...
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damn, 35 mins. to post yet. Will somebody get me a beer and a hot pastrami on rye.
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I'm afraid, with so much time left, that I could lose what I typed here so far (timed out?) so I'll hit enter for now and reply with what I see.
 

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Well, anybody who wants to follow me do..
place left hand under left thigh, right hand under right thigh, SIT DOWN.

They ALL look like they sweated their asses off in N.Y. in their non-AC stalls all week.

At least nos. 4,1a, and 9 look like they're breathing. No. 4 looks better of the others, but 77 days off and 7/5 AND not looking that much better on paper means one thing - NO PLAY. 10 mins to post.

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Update scoreboard

Update scoreboard

Score update....

Capping 0
Spotting 1 1/2 pts.


Now, Belmont Stakes - "let's git dat flookin cash", as MJ would say.
 

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I'm afraid I'm gonna run outa time.. the track looks like it's in good shape. I'm going with the picks for now. Just take a GOOD look at the ones I mentioned in the :facepalm: post. Maybe for a couple of side baby exactas.

GOOD LUCK, y'awl.
 

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Ass burner for the day

Ass burner for the day

Yeah, I report on the losahs too. :(

First, congrats to Hamster; yeah, him laid down them bucks and it sho did payoff.

Second, did I actually post this?...
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Exacta/Trifecta boosters..
Maybe one of these two will make a good booster with one of the plicks or with one of the favorites...
nos. 2 or 3. NO straight plays on either though.

Of the newbies in this race, no. 3,RULER ON ICE (20-1) may be the one to stick his nose in the picture.

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HAH, BOTH of the dang bastageds stuck their noses in the dang picture alright. :00x25

WORST OF ALL, the spotters were 3, 9, 12. I already had the 9 and 12 in exactas with my picks, the no. 3 looked a little better than the other 2, soo.... I took the zacta route with the 3 top/bot. with the three figure hosses (9, 10, 12) AND my picks. Straight play on the 3? Oh NO, I DID take my advice on that part. UGH

Sometimes hoss wacin ain't so much fun. :(

But DO consider any spotters at Philly cause I've hit better (MUCH better) prices than today's Belmont payoff at Philly. So there is still some hope.

See yas.
 

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Thanks Baby J.
Feel like I really got rolled over the coals THREE times - Derby, Prickness, Belmont. Lost the most in that middle "jewel", AND if the hoss gods coulda just moved ANY one of the top 4 finishers ONE finish position up OR down.. just ONE finish position - I woulda done well, and maybe VERY well (for that race). Looked like I played hopscotch with the combos and made sure I didn't step on the right one.

For the Belmont, even though I took the exacta route after seeing how good the no. 3 looked in the prerace - I wouldn't have hit it even if I added more exacta mates to go with him cause there was no way I woulda included the no. 2 hoss, unless I wheeled the 3 top/bot... I had too much other crapola going for me to add a no. 3 WHEEL jobbie.

Don't know if you play the ponies, but if you do I only recommend playing picks that I say "This one's a TEN, MJers" from what I see in the prerace. If the odds are ridiculously high, DO BET IT. They ain't all gonna win and one rarely comes along (haven't seen one since I started posting in Jack's Place), but when they do win.. it WILL make up for the few losses in between. I have the records and posted some of those babies in my previous forum. NEVER go overboard on them - there's no need to cause, usually, the payoff on them goes overboard enough and losing a few in a row will put you UNDERboard if you bet too much every time. A $50+ winner takes care of a short streak of 5 or 10 dollar losers and the losing streaks on them has been short. BIG problem is that they're rare AND "worser" - I can only post them with minutes to post.

See yas at Philly MONDAY and git back to business.

Thanks for stopping in, Baby J.
 
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