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And everyone ranted on my ass that if I see a bad line at a book I shouldnt try to exploit it, and should tell them.


hahahahaahah yea right!!!:142smilie
 

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i was out of the country last week and am catching up so finally have the time to address this thread.

number one - i will NEVER sell, share, give away or allow anybody anywhere access to your email addresses (unless i sold the site and that's the property of the site and that's neither here nor there)

that goes for the rare phone number i might have from some of you. PF, if someone offered me 5 million dollars for your cell number i wouldn't be able to produce it for them. you sent it to me in an email, i called you and then i deleted the message. gone or should i say *poof* :)

so where do these books get your phone numbers and email addresses? they buy the list from companies that sell the list. where do they get the data? hell if i know, i'm not in that business.

getting pissed at *TIM* isn't the answer either because tim isn't a telephone solicitor and doesn't run the telemarketing division of the company. tim can, however, get your name off the list if you email him. tim is a nice guy, believe it or not, and very helpful in the customer support department of the company.

direct mail, email promotions and telemarketing are all part of getting new business for sportsbooks and royal isn't the only one using some or all of these methods. damn near all the books use these methods now and it's not going to stop. not that i can see because it works.

just be careful with your email address and phone numbers and try to get your info off the lists when you are solicited.

it's pretty common knowledge that several large sportsbooks had all their data hacked from them a few months back. maybe that's how your info has been hitting the streets. disgruntled employees leave and take info with them to sell. it's a cut throat business sometimes.

send tim an email and tell him you are a member of madjacks and he'll get your number deleted off their list.

thanks,

jack@madjacksports.com
 

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BleedDodgerBlue and Everybody at Madjacks,

I have been dealing with Jack and Madjacks for quite some time now and Jack knows me well, I am always there for the customer when needed and always try to help everybody with their needs, I am the Affiliates Manager at BetRoyal and also in charge of other things such as promotions and the distribution of those to all posting forums and others.

I am not the person in charge of the telemarketing department but I can for sure help to have a phone number or email address deleted from our database, for that I only request our customers to email me and I will always not only reply to your emails but also will take care of all requests.

I want to personally apologize if you got that phone call or msg, thats one of the marketing strategies and we are not the only company doing it.

Please email me your account number and the number where you got the call and I will make sure it gets removed.

Once again I apologize for the inconvenience and I am always available to suggestions or to help if needed.

Thanks and have a great day
Tim J
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PD. Also, Jack is a straight business Gentleman and he wont never sell or give any of you guys information to anyone out there.
 

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where to start.....


thanks for addressing the issue. i said that i didn't think it was here, plus you don't have my cell number. Not many people do.

i won't bash betroyal near to the extent that they deserve because they are a sponsor here and i respect you jack, and we've spoken before and we seem to get along so i'll leave it at that.

they obviously offer me nothing that i can't get elsewhere and to be absolutely fair to your other sponsors, they offer nothing except a safe haven for bonus chasers and squares and non steam or scalp players or higher end winners. which is fine, that's their model. they are a recreational book which is fine. their constant emails are easy enough to delete but phone calls are where i draw the line. my wife knows what i do, thats not the issue and so does my distant family and friends. what is the issue is that they are cold calling someone who would never in a million years use their garbage. what is the issue is them getting my number from some source and i want to know where.

818-36x-xxxx there it is tim. delete any number starting with that.

I AM NOT calling or emailing you. I'd have to be nuts to trust you with my name and number. No assurance from madjack or God himself will allow me to have any meaningful interaction with that book.

one of the reasons online is great is anonymity. I proxy with gambling and online poker and sports. It's whats great about the web. Pinnacle and a few other choice books have my info and that's fine. I've never had a problem with them and I do trust them. But again, that's my choice. For an outfit I dont' trust to have my info is criminal.

I guess maybe I was hard on Tim. But he's a victim of circumstance. He works for what I believe (and not trying to steer others in this belief) is a chit establishment. I actually feel sorry for him. Pinny and carib and wsex and betjam and greek and others that I trust don't spam me and I allow them my info. Why must he. I just don't think any solid book is worth a damn schilling for business. Don't they realize it just turns people off? I mean I've lost all faith in the human race if people are actually responding to their phone calls. BetRoyal is kind of like the Yankees. I hate them and all that they stand for and lump them all together.l Just like I hate BetRoyal and lump Tim J with them since he is their schill. Maybe hes a great guy, but its my choice not to associate with him or them. He should realize that and if he had any kind of a brain would tell marketing that maybe offering better lines and nickel pricing and not just bonuses that evaporate with bad lines that they would get better business. But I guess some books don't get it.

I'll leave this subject alone. Sorry to have disrupted your forum.

gl
 

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Please email me your account number

I said I will leave it alone and I will, but what part didn't you read? I NEVER HAD AN ACCOUNT and I never will. Period. End of story. How did you get my info??? Your telemarketing strategy is lame, but if theres enough suckers out there than so be it. Props to you guys.

Again, I'll leave it alone. but you aren't getting any more info than need be. you don't want me at your book, i can assure you. which is fine, because i don't want to be there.

Perhaps I'll have to live with the phone calls because you aren't getting any more info. I guess there is no solution.

Again, sorry to bother vinnies forum and sorry to madjack for any problems you may have caused. And I guess sorry to Tim J, a man I've never met, but you are a victim of association.

This is my last post on this subject.

gl
 

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:mj07: :142smilie :142smilie :scared

Dude its a phone call, just tell them to put you on their no call list and hang up. Holy shit its like they took your first born away. By the way Ive been dialing 1-818-36x-xxxx numbers all morning, and Im up to 1-818-362-1234, and still no bleeddodgerblue. I'd love to be a person working at a charity who accidently gets your number and has to ask for a donation.

You can not make this shit up, and I thought my Grandpa got pissed at telemarketers kurby kurby :director: :mad: :mj16: :mj16:
 

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=hedman;1573724Dude its a phone call, just tell them to put you on their no call list

again, i'm breaking my rule of not responding. perhaps its all funny to you and you don't care, but i guess I'll have to pay more attention to a person of you stature and iq, since you've broken the law of telephone phsyics and figured out how to tell a recorded message to take you off their schill list.
 

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I want to add one thing to my thought on this...I have dealt with Tim J many times over the years, from an affiliate perspective. He is probably the hardest working rep I've ever seen, and went out of his way to take care of people I sent his way, including myself with an account. He is an excellent communicator, and I know him to be good to his word.

I sounded pretty harsh above, and it tilted in his direction when it shouldn't have. I'm sure he will do more than he has to to help any of us out in getting off that list. Tim is a stand up guy, at least from my dealings with him. Good luck to everybody.
 

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again, i'm breaking my rule of not responding. perhaps its all funny to you and you don't care, but i guess I'll have to pay more attention to a person of you stature and iq, since you've broken the law of telephone phsyics and figured out how to tell a recorded message to take you off their schill list.

See BDB, thats actually funny pointing out the shortcoming of my response. I hope you got a chuckle out of it, I did. I especially like the part where you comment on my stature and iq. Thats funny, however I did not know there was a law of telephone physics, that just sounds stupid, but then again maybe that because of my stature and iq. Thanks for the laugh BDB. :142smilie :142smilie
 

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Tim is a stand up guy, at least from my dealings with him.

Tim J
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Jesus christ.....i just now saw this. Are you THAT bent out of shape because you got a f*cking phone call? I get like 10 a day that i would rather not answer. DEAL WITH IT!!!
 

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just got a call from these clowns today myself. The number on the caller id was 1-678-631-7191.

Isn't that number from Atlanta???? :shrug:

I told the guy who spoke terrible English and who also asked for "Clinton" (which is not my name, it's just Clint) that there was no way I would go with his book as there were others out there with much lower juice. He told me that some guy was back with the book; I forget the name, but it meant nothing to me anyway. Told him to take me off the calling list.

Why are they calling from Atlanta???
 

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Bleed , i have the best encryption software out there. it was given to me by one of the fore mentioned books as a bonus when i signed up.

so i ran the software on the 818-36x-xxxx. and was able to get ur number. with ur permission i will call u about some great offers.

but only between the hours of 10pm and 2am pst.ok

so be expecting my call. alright buddy.

BTW please dont DOS attack me, that sounds bad.i mean i have been bullied by some of the best, but DOS never.










just kidding bdb.
 

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One more thing, if u do send DOS,

if it is who i think it is, DiAngleo O. Soprano, no need. i will simply pay double of what u paid. he knows that.


no need to reply........this has been a recorded message.:com:
 

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I will tell you one freaking thing, you couldn't pay me enough to be talked to like BDB did to Tim, then respond nicely?

WTF is that?

Grow a sack Tim, ShitRoyal not gonna fire you.

BDB must have one of those pre-paid jobbies, and can't afford to call and get Brandon Langs latest picks.

Send him $.60 cents Tim for his "lost" minute and he will be happy.
 
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