Bill would give president emergency control of Internet

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Bill would give president emergency control of Internet

Internet companies and civil liberties groups were alarmed this spring when a U.S. Senate bill proposed handing the White House the power to disconnect private-sector computers from the Internet.

They're not much happier about a revised version that aides to Sen. Jay Rockefeller, a West Virginia Democrat, have spent months drafting behind closed doors. CNET News has obtained a copy of the 55-page draft of S.773 (excerpt), which still appears to permit the president to seize temporary control of private-sector networks during a so-called cybersecurity emergency.



The new version would allow the president to "declare a cybersecurity emergency" relating to "non-governmental" computer networks and do what's necessary to respond to the threat. Other sections of the proposal include a federal certification program for "cybersecurity professionals," and a requirement that certain computer systems and networks in the private sector be managed by people who have been awarded that license.

"I think the redraft, while improved, remains troubling due to its vagueness," said Larry Clinton, president of the Internet Security Alliance, which counts representatives of Verizon, Verisign, Nortel, and Carnegie Mellon University on its board. "It is unclear what authority Sen. Rockefeller thinks is necessary over the private sector. Unless this is clarified, we cannot properly analyze, let alone support the bill."

Representatives of other large Internet and telecommunications companies expressed concerns about the bill in a teleconference with Rockefeller's aides this week, but were not immediately available for interviews on Thursday.

A spokesman for Rockefeller also declined to comment on the record Thursday, saying that many people were unavailable because of the summer recess. A Senate source familiar with the bill compared the president's power to take control of portions of the Internet to what President Bush did when grounding all aircraft on Sept. 11, 2001. The source said that one primary concern was the electrical grid, and what would happen if it were attacked from a broadband connection.

When Rockefeller, the chairman of the Senate Commerce committee, and Olympia Snowe (R-Maine) introduced the original bill in April, they claimed it was vital to protect national cybersecurity. "We must protect our critical infrastructure at all costs--from our water to our electricity, to banking, traffic lights and electronic health records," Rockefeller said.

The Rockefeller proposal plays out against a broader concern in Washington, D.C., about the government's role in cybersecurity. In May, President Obama acknowledged that the government is "not as prepared" as it should be to respond to disruptions and announced that a new cybersecurity coordinator position would be created inside the White House staff. Three months later, that post remains empty, one top cybersecurity aide has quit, and some wags have begun to wonder why a government that receives failing marks on cybersecurity should be trusted to instruct the private sector what to do.

Rockefeller's revised legislation seeks to reshuffle the way the federal government addresses the topic. It requires a "cybersecurity workforce plan" from every federal agency, a "dashboard" pilot project, measurements of hiring effectiveness, and the implementation of a "comprehensive national cybersecurity strategy" in six months--even though its mandatory legal review will take a year to complete.

The privacy implications of sweeping changes implemented before the legal review is finished worry Lee Tien, a senior staff attorney with the Electronic Frontier Foundation in San Francisco. "As soon as you're saying that the federal government is going to be exercising this kind of power over private networks, it's going to be a really big issue," he says.

Probably the most controversial language begins in Section 201, which permits the president to "direct the national response to the cyber threat" if necessary for "the national defense and security." The White House is supposed to engage in "periodic mapping" of private networks deemed to be critical, and those companies "shall share" requested information with the federal government. ("Cyber" is defined as anything having to do with the Internet, telecommunications, computers, or computer networks.)

"The language has changed but it doesn't contain any real additional limits," EFF's Tien says. "It simply switches the more direct and obvious language they had originally to the more ambiguous (version)...The designation of what is a critical infrastructure system or network as far as I can tell has no specific process. There's no provision for any administrative process or review. That's where the problems seem to start. And then you have the amorphous powers that go along with it."

Translation: If your company is deemed "critical," a new set of regulations kick in involving who you can hire, what information you must disclose, and when the government would exercise control over your computers or network.

The Internet Security Alliance's Clinton adds that his group is "supportive of increased federal involvement to enhance cyber security, but we believe that the wrong approach, as embodied in this bill as introduced, will be counterproductive both from an national economic and national secuity perspective."


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Declan McCullagh is a correspondent for CBSNews.com who writes a daily feature called Taking Liberties focused on individual and economic rights. You can bookmark his CBS News Taking Liberties site here, or subscribe to the RSS feed. You can e-mail Declan at declan@cbsnews.com.
 

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Well isn't that nice, no much of a suprise though :shrug:

bubble, bubble, bubble

Keep watching Beck, Vanity, Madcow and Overbiteman, bah, bah,bah,,,,
 

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the man is on a power trip just like Hitler in his early days, the people of this country better wake up or we will be just like Nazi Germany
 

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the man is on a power trip just like Hitler in his early days, the people of this country better wake up or we will be just like Nazi Germany

wake up like you?

and then what :shrug:
 

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the man is on a power trip just like Hitler in his early days, the people of this country better wake up or we will be just like Nazi Germany

Having you eyes open is one thing, but shouting out phrases like that just stokes the fire, in the wrong way. Hitler on a power trip in his early days? You might want to crank up the way back machine and take a look at young Adolph when he was getting the shit kicked out of him.

But I know you are going to being watching the sheep dog. Yeah, I see it, directly stolen from INFOWARS 2 weeks ago ! What a dick head
 

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the man is on a power trip just like Hitler in his early days, the people of this country better wake up or we will be just like Nazi Germany

There is also a Bill to hit the floor of the House in October.

If passed, the FBI will be rounding up those who write on the internet Hitler/Obama comparisons.
 

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There is also a Bill to hit the floor of the House in October.

If passed, the FBI will be rounding up those who write on the internet Hitler/Obama comparisons.

there not enough jails in the country:142smilie
 

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the man is on a power trip just like Hitler in his early days, the people of this country better wake up or we will be just like Nazi Germany

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damn I love how Obama really upsets you

when Bush did all his crazy shit, not one word from hedge, everything coming up rosees

damnnnnn:142smilie :142smilie
 

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By Jessica Ravitz
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(CNN) -- Mike Ramsdell was recently out of film school when the 9/11 attacks threw America's sense of security upside down.


"The Anatomy of Hate" explores who Ku Klux Klan members are as human beings, beneath the hoods.

1 of 3 Born to a Lebanese mother and a father who is a social studies teacher, the Michigan native grappled with the horror of what happened to his country that day just as he paid attention to people's reactions.

When he heard President Bush's declaration of war on terrorism, he thought to himself: "A lot of people are going to die."

He set out on a six-year journey to explore that which fuels wars big and small, real and perceived. He wanted to know why people hate.

"If we are a species that is born with the intent to live a peaceful, prosperous and content life," Ramsdell, 36, wanted to know, "why is it that we've never been able to collectively achieve that?"

The filmmaking odyssey took him to the white supremacist movement, to Christian fundamentalists with an anti-gay agenda and across the globe to the Middle East. There he spent time with Muslim extremists, Palestinians fighting the Intifada, Israeli settlers and soldiers and with American troops serving in Iraq.

Along the way, he weighed in with a team of experts in psychology, sociology and neurology.

"I never confronted anyone in an ideological context," he said, describing how he gained access to groups and individuals. "My goal at the end of the day was to understand."

The end result was "The Anatomy of Hate: A Dialogue for Hope," an award-winning documentary from Under the Hood Productions. The film will screen in Atlanta, Georgia, Saturday evening at the Carter Center as part of the Atlanta International Documentary Film Festival, also known as DocuFest.

CNN spoke with Ramsdell about the film, the points that tested him most and the aspects that gave him hope. Here are excerpts from that interview.

CNN: Where did you start when you set out to make this film?

Ramsdell: I knew the Middle East was what I had to get to, but I started with white supremacists. I wanted to get into their living rooms, get to the human side. I got in with Tom Metzger [of the White Aryan Resistance] and through him met Billy Roper [of the White Revolution]. Billy was very new, very raw and very willing to be open and candid. We are about the same age, have the same academic background and same goals to create the ideal world for our children. His happens to be a white world; mine is a more unified world.

CNN: How was it spending time with Fred Phelps [the virulent anti-gay founder of Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka, Kansas, a group that often pickets at funerals for U.S. service members]?

Ramsdell: The one who is the most unilaterally hated is Fred Phelps, but in the 1960s those same people who hate him would be talking about what a huge hero he was [as a civil rights attorney]. He was the only white attorney who took on the case of 300 black students at the University of Kansas that did a sit-in, got arrested, and he got all of them off.

CNN: How can someone like that also say what he says about the gay community?

Ramsdell: He's a force of a human being. If you believe what's written in the Bible [the way he does], then you're just a man living out your belief system. Whose interpretation of the Bible is right?

CNN: Of everything you saw, what got to you most?

Ramsdell: When you see kids involved, it's very emotional. I'm a parent -- have two kids, one on the way. The kid hit with an IED [improvised explosive device] in Iraq. To hear this kid screaming for his father, there's nothing that you can say is worth this. Or to see kids in Israel [both Israelis and Palestinians, he clarified] with their Elmo backpacks get attacked, there's no disconnect at that point. Boy, if I was born there, there's no way I would have been able to keep my head about me.

CNN: Did you emerge from this experience with more or less faith in humankind?

Ramsdell: When you're able to take the evil out of the enemy and go hang out with them, you can understand how this process [of hating others] has happened. Behind all of this awfulness is just people. You realize how possible it is to not be this way and how saddening it is that it is this way.

CNN: What in this process gave you the most hope?

Ramsdell: Combatants for Peace [a group of former Israeli soldiers and Palestinian fighters who've come together to try and end the cycle of violence]. The fear over there is palpable; it's off the charts. Right after filming, an Arab combatant's daughter was shot and killed. [An Israeli, also featured in the film, had lost his little sister in a suicide bomber attack.] In the worst possible circumstances, these guys held onto their beliefs. That's beyond courage and hope. It's just unbelievable. They're a true example of what we as human beings can be.

To learn more about the film, see clips, find out about screenings or grassroots efforts for dialogues, visit http://anatomyofhate.com/.
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you need to watch this film hedge

you may learn not to be such a hater

Keep Hope Alive

Freedom

Change we can believe in !
 

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Jack, that story doesn't worry you? What are the Democrats trying to do?
It's nice to see we finally have an administration that understands the urgent need for a strategic cybersecurity plan. Both government and business are so dependent on the Internet now that NOT having a federal cybersecurity plan places our country at great risk.

What part of this don't you understand?

The president of the United States has always had the constitutional authority, and duty, to protect the American people and direct the national response to any emergency that threatens the security and safety of the United States. The Rockefeller-Snowe Cybersecurity bill makes it clear that the president's authority includes securing our national cyber infrastructure from attack. The section of the bill that addresses this issue, applies specifically to the national response to a severe attack or natural disaster. This particular legislative language is based on longstanding statutory authorities for wartime use of communications networks. To be very clear, the Rockefeller-Snowe bill will not empower a "government shutdown or takeover of the Internet" and any suggestion otherwise is misleading and false. The purpose of this language is to clarify how the president directs the public-private response to a crisis, secure our economy and safeguard our financial networks, protect the American people, their privacy and civil liberties, and coordinate the government's response.
 
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Too little too late.

We are closing in on the point of no return.

This is bigger than the US. :shrug: Having the power to go off grid as in a disaster recovery scenario is something all corporations have implemented, why no the Federal Government? There is a need of network stability: dams, nuclear power, merdical, 911, on and on...

There are two sides to this argument.
 

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Too little too late.

We are closing in on the point of no return.

This is bigger than the US. :shrug:

There are two sides to this argument.
Maybe I'm misinterpreting your comments Woodson, but that sounds defeatist to me. I'm curious why you think it's too late to put measures in place to try to prepare for cyber-terrorism on a large scale.
 

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we have cause to worry when North Korea can hack into the Pentagon computers and do damage and hide shit until they need it.

There has to be a way to control things if the worst happens.

Bush could not think of something like this. He was too busy torturing terrorists to keep us safe.

8 months and the US is safe

wow what a great job Obama

Change we can believe in
 

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the man is on a power trip just like Hitler in his early days, the people of this country better wake up or we will be just like Nazi Germany
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wake up like you?

and then what :shrug:

I just ignore the government and do what I want to anyway, tomorrow I will be buying a Ford Expedition gas guzzler. If Obama has no opposition the democrats will just ramrod all this liberal bullshit down our throats and then what do we do? All before he appoints himself the King of the United States
 
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