BlackJack poll, cheating?

[BleedDodgerBlue]

they aren't looking for a tip. no dealers keep their own tips for table games anywhere except poker. and if you think they care about a 20 dollar tip put into a toke box and split among 100 people after the hosts and pit get their take you are mistaken. yes they live off tips, but they aren't gonna purposely do anything for a tip that they have to split with a million other people. even a 10,000 dollar tip might only mean 10 bucks more on their paycheck and that ain't worth their job.


as to the morality of it, thats for you guys to debate

 

[UGA12]

3) it ain't right.

There are a lot of things that arent right. For instance:

1)2.50 per gallon
2)fat chicks in bikinis
3)Thinking usc has won 2 of the last three NC's

But playing a bad line, nah. I have a hard time feeling guilty about betting a line that a book put out that was not right. It is not my responsibility to make sure the line is right, that burden belongs to them.

 

[Agent 0659]

YYZ, thank you! It seems finally someone understood the post although now a few more do. Glad to see Im not the only "unethical" guy out there. I agree with UGA, its not my responsibility. Now I do say if they catch it BEFORE game oes off, they have the right to reverse it. After the tioff or kickoff, sorry about your luck!

 

[saint]

Here's a real life example:

I go with my bro in law to buy a plasma tv for him (Best Buy). He ends up buying whichever 50" he chooses. It's $4200 i think. Well, they go in the back to get it and start wheeling it out, it's been paid for. We have the truck's trunk open and are ready to load.

We both realize simultaneously that they are rolling the brand new model out, same brand, same size, just a nicer model out which is over 1k more.

Were we going to tell them? Hell no. Did the 50 year nazi security actually ask to check out receipt because "believe it or not guys, we've brought out the wrong tv"...yes, he does.

Regardless, we were going to take it. Yes, it's wrong. But a huge corp like BB rapes us all on the cost of dvds and everything else. They'll write the 1k off and it hurts no one.

Happened right after xmas

 

[ImFeklhr]

they aren't looking for a tip. no dealers keep their own tips for table games anywhere except poker. and if you think they care about a 20 dollar tip put into a toke box and split among 100 people after the hosts and pit get their take you are mistaken....

as to the morality of it, thats for you guys to debate

I know this is beside the point, but there are a couple casinos in Reno where the dealers keep their own tips. I think the Cal-neva or something...

The closest thing I have had to such a moral dilemma is where a BJ dealer would pay me out even if I pushed etc. This usually happens at cheaper casinos with less experienced/intelligent dealers. Slightly more often a craps dealer might lose track of a chip of mine and payout when he shouldn't etc.

My rationale for not saying anything in most cases, is by the time I realzie the error it would grind the game to a halt if i mentioned it. I figure they will make more in the long run if the game moves quickly, than if we fixed the one bet I won in error. At least I tell myself that... but seriously I just consider getting occasionally lucky part of the flow of the game.

As for a serious repeated mistake by a blackjack dealer, I would have too much Catholic Guilt to keep a straight face. I might not want to ruin it for the rest of the players at the table, so I would just lower my bet so I could feel better that I didn't "steal" as much.

For some reason a line error at a sportsbook or mistake by a retail store, falls under some other moral rubric, and I wouldn't take advantage of it. Again... Catholic guilt.

I guess it's all about living by a moral code that allows you to sleep at night. :mj18:

 

[MadJack]

, there were casinos that dealt BJ dealers cards face up.

in that variation of the game, dealer wins all pushes :scared

 

[william13]

TO PUT A TWIST ON IT ... if you were down 2 g's what would you do ....

 

[Big Daddy]

in that variation of the game, dealer wins all pushes :scared

I believe blackjack also only pays even money, if I remember correctly :scared

 

[White Shadow]

Is it a full table? Can all the players see the down card? I know if I can't see it and I'm at first base and you're at third and you hit your 19 because you saw the dealer had 20, I'm going to be pissed when you draw a 10 and bust when that 10 should have been my card and I end up with a 5 or 6 instead. Personally, I don't know if I could play that way.......doubt if I would say anything to the pit boss because again, if there are more people playing at the table and they are taking advantage of it, you'd probably get your ass whipped by one of them. I think I'd just walk away from it and go find another table. I'm going to lose anyway, I'd rather lose with a good conscience.