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My plays are :

Marquez pretty big straight at -250 and in two medium parlays one with st.pierre and one with Diaz.

I believe that this fight will be alot easier for Marquez this time. Roach pushed me over the edge on this one.

@gardenweasel
you are right that Vasquez had a good 6 and 7 round. But Vasquez was going all out. He was feeling he cant breath and let it all hang out. Marquez was fighting at a pace to go 12.
Romi described it perfectly "last stand".

Marquez can make things alot easier if he uses alot long 1-2 combos and moves a little bit more ala Gonzales. He has a beautiful jab that he landed several times right one the nose as a double. It was a double jab that made Vasquez turn away.

I covered my ass with a Vasquez inside +St.pierre+Liddell at +1000. (hope i dont need it though)

2.Second play Diaz straight and a little inside . Probably between rounds 8 and 10.

I dont feel very strong about it but my hot guy who is really on a streak has this as his only play for this weekend. He has basically the same opinion like Romi Morales is done and Diaz is too big for him.
I dont like that Diaz was this far behind on the scorecards against Santa cruz. But i follow diligently the wisdom of people who know more about boxing than I do.

TM- I know your hot guy and he is quite attractive....kidding but seriously I do know who your speaking of , he's from where I grew up and I met up with him when he came out to Vegas. He does know his stuff and he's an excellent value bettor- loves the dogs.
 

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shhhhh 5 dimes is offering 50 percent bonus till aug 6th. Dont know the rules. All i do know is it is for first timers.
 

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Adding a future parlay...


Ibragimov over Holyfield -555 / Gonzalez over Penalosa -1300 / Cintron over Feliciano -1200...(-260)...lay .95 to win .35


gl bl
 

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Bodog=NO parlays in boxing! No balls.

They finally just put up there Marquez odds. -280 Sure wish i could have saw the first fight that was on last night that nobody reminded me of.:shrug: How the heck do you get on this team? Is there a fee?
 

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shhhhh 5 dimes is offering 50 percent bonus till aug 6th. Dont know the rules. All i do know is it is for first timers.

I dont care about bonuses but this is a machtplay casino reward with a max of 125 and you have to wager your amount 10 times in the casino to get your bonus.
At least that is the big advertise on their site if you mean something else feel free to correct me.
5dimes is a good book for boxing and they pay.
good live chat customer service.
 

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I dont care about bonuses but this is a machtplay casino reward with a max of 125 and you have to wager your amount 10 times in the casino to get your bonus.
At least that is the big advertise on their site if you mean something else feel free to correct me.
5dimes is a good book for boxing and they pay.
good live chat customer service.

im not big on bonuses either but i am when im ready to head to a book. What i hear is the max bonus is 200 on 400 deposit. 5 times roll over but im not sure if you have to roll it over before the bonus comew in. That is kinda sneaky. 400 is kinda tough to roll over. Now if it was 2 grand i think that is a little easier. I wonder if i put in a grand got the two hundred bonus and lost 500 but still had 500 the bonus would be history.:shrug:
 

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Just watch the fight. Tony if that screen was any bigger than 3 and a half by three and a half I would be shocked :mj07: I still watched it tho and appreciate it. Good fight. Now to me these two talent wise are a lot closer than Hatton and Mayweather but the odds are basically the same. To me Vasquez has a lot better shot at winning this fight than Hatton does with his. Marquez obviously is the better polished fighter but man when he throws that left to the body he drops his right a foot. I don't know what Roach was doing but it would have been nice of him to point this out to Vasquez. Vasquez floored Marquez because of this and it was there all fight. It might be time for Freddy to pack it in. i still would take the better polished fighter but not at almost three to one odds. To risky for my blood. Thanks again Tony.
 

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Heh Spongy,

1. Bonus 5dimes sportbook

If you talk about the
Max $200 Free-Play Reward for New Accounts
You can lose as much as you want even if you down to 5 dollars if your betting volume is at any point 2000 (5*400) the free play bonus is yours.
Freeplay is no cash but only to use once to bet.
You must play big parlays to get value here.
Remember you have to call in (best via live help) and ask for your bonus 24 hours within your deposit.

2. Video
If you use VlC player you can zoom any size you want but its a little bad quality for full screen.
 

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Would you be playing this as large or is it also to cover the previous wager? (i.e. would it be .525 to win .2, if not for the earlier wager?)

Marquez over Vasquez -260...lay 1.05 to win .40 (recommended play)
Vasquez over Marquez +230...lay .20 to win .45 (original play)


Just trying to figure out how large I am going to play it.

Also any thoughts on Diaz i-t-d and what would be an attractive price?...already grabbed a piece at +330 missed the +375, but it is still around +300 at pinny
 
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Beware to everybody.

Not surprisingly my hot guy is on Vasquez and Vasquez inside.
He simply loves dogs and hates chalk.
He was on Marquez in the first, but now switches.
I got to grap a little more of that plus 500.
I have to say that i dont know if i put to much into roaches statements.
But the way i understand it Roach refused to train Vasquez if he didnt take a year off.
Roach has no hard fellings about Vasquez. And saying things like he slurs,talks slow and gets hit to much from young kids is pretty harsh.
Based only on watching the first fight i would be all over Vasquez at +270 too.
 

gardenweasel

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i said...."seems that when vasquez went into aggressive panic mode around the 6th"

guys,i think we were saying basically the same thing...i think that vasquez went into ""aggressive "panic" mode"" precisely because he knew what a problem the nose was becoming... i`m with you...

i think what we saw through 5 was a potentially great fighter vs a very good fighter....a bigger,stronger,albeit slower less talented good fighter.....

these 2 aren`t on the same talent level....under normal circumstances i`d be on marquez and i`d be laying the 300+ with no qualms...


my trepidation is based on:

1:the trend of late in which the bigger guy seems to be doing the guy stepping up(darchinyan/donaire,gomez/gatti,bhop/winky,arce/mijares).....

2)vasquez` penchant for getting beaten like a rented mule and still having the wherewithal to carry his power late....

3)marquez chin vs a bigger guy who`s a proven banger...and who is particularly dangerous when things look bleak....

4)and the unknown factor of not knowing(sans the nose issue)whether vasquez` power would have become a factor later in the fight....as we`ve seen with him in some previous fights....

but again,i don`t think they`re even close skill-wise....i have man-love for both marquez bros. based on their beautiful boxing styles........if i wasn`t cheap and careful,i`d roll with marquez without the hedge....

they say,"a smooth sea never a skilled mariner made"....o.k....so i`m no mariner......lol

btw...franks...i`m glad you feel confident about the stoppage...glad my old compadre from the other site has confidence in the stoppage....

side note:....can this place get any better?....we have some seriously strong cappers...we`ve gone international(tony and zerwas).....and i see that tony`s also into mma.....

i don`t really think that most of these boxing forums on some of the major boxing sites are as knowledgable...particularly from a wagering point of view.....i see way too much nationalistic fan nepotism......

this place is primo,imo...and gets better with time....:clap:
 
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gardenweasel

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"the bunker"
chagaev pulls out of the ibragimove fight....and is replaced by?........


HOLIFIELD?????

that surprises me.....more than a little....

does the old man have a shot?....hmmm???..size won`t be a real issue.....but,quicks very well may be.....

didn`t ibragimov draw with ray austin?

update...5 dimes...ibrag-500/holi+365...in russia...
 
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I added Johnson tonight for a substantial amount @-350. He's ultra confident, in good shape and apparently a level above wills. I'm a little nervous w/ the amt I put down. GL to me!
 

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gw...as posted above I already have a decent sized parlay riding on Ibragimov, and I'll be adding another shortly

Romi...you're not alone, I'm on Johnson as well, but I'm not laying the -350. I'll be adding a parlay with Johnson shortly


Btw, saying that Johnson is in good shape is an understatement, the guy weighed in at 229 which is the lowest of his career and about 12 lbs less than his last fight. If Johnson stays alert and boxes...he wins this easily, I just hope he's not too over confident and gets careless


gl bl
 
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