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Link? or did you pull that out of your ass?

How's your Mama, the Muslim?

It is in Black and White bro. Easy to find. Keep your head in the sand and take personal cracks at a fellow Madjacker if that's what makes you feel good. The 1.8 trillion estimate was done by the CBO and on the low side of another estimate by a senate committee put at 2.6 trillion. Either way its the fourth largest entitlement program in history at the least. Enjoy paying for it.


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It is in Black and White bro. Easy to find. Keep your head in the sand and take personal cracks at a fellow Madjacker if that's what makes you feel good. The 1.8 trillion estimate was done by the CBO and on the low side of another estimate by a senate committee put at 2.6 trillion. Either way its the fourth largest entitlement program in history at the least. Enjoy paying for it.


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You're a liar, jerkoff. Here's what the CBO actually says -

The newest projections indicate that those provisions will cost $710 billion over that same period. As shown in the figure below, the intervening projections of the cost of the ACA?s coverage provisions for those years have all been close to those figures on a year-by-year basis; of course, the 10-year totals have changed as the time frame for the estimates has shifted.

Those amounts do not reflect the total budgetary impact of the ACA. That legislation includes many other provisions that, on net, will reduce budget deficits. Taking the coverage provisions and other provisions together, CBO and JCT have estimated that the ACA will reduce deficits over the next 10 years and in the subsequent decade.


http://www.cbo.gov/publication/44176

Now how about you and your Muslim Mama get on back to Kenya.

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Duff>>>>

Duff>>>>

Follow the simple rule of verbal combat:

Do not attack ones family members
You never really know the circumstances of,
At this time Jaxx's mom, she could have cancer, dementia,
Or be dead?

I saw during basic training a DS verbally assault a boot,
This kid was 6'5 220. A intimidating, powerful badass
SOB. After 15 minutes of taking the thrashing from the DS
Being called every name in the book, even some new shit
I have never heard, the boot stood there and took the smoking
Then DS launches a mom bomb assault
The boot was on his knees bawling as if he had just seen
Old Yeller for the first time
It turns out that his mother had died from ALS 2 weeks before
The start of boot camp
The DS and other Drills now all got wood
And went into a 3 pronged attack as the kid refused to
Or could not recover and get back on his feet
Finally the Senior Drill saw and heard the assault
He backed the DS tag team off, sat down next the PVT
And heard the story. Senior Drill started to cry, he ordered
The DS team to sit and listen to the story, they too started
To cry. Some dumb ass 'Cruits started to laugh!!
Rut Roh!!! You know what the South Carolina summers are like,
Imagine being put in the front leaning rest position on the asphalt with no gloves
Until the drill sergeants got tired, and it takes a lot to tire out a drill sergeant

From that point forward, there was a directive given by the first sergeant
There will no longer be verbal assaults or attacks on one's family members

So Duff,
Take a step back. I am asking that you stop the attacks on people's family members
 

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WASHINGTON -- It was just Wednesday night that Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) railed against the Affordable Care Act, calling it a "catastrophic failure" for people everywhere.

"This is beyond fixing. It needs to be pulled out root and branch and we need to start over," McConnell said during an interview on Fox's "On The Record With Greta Van Susteren." "It's been a catastrophe for health care and for the economy at large."

But the governor of McConnell's home state came to Capitol Hill on Thursday with a vastly different message: the health care law is working, and people in Kentucky can't get enough of it.

"I have a U.S. senator who keeps saying Kentuckians don't want this. Well, the facts don't prove that out," Kentucky Gov. Steve Beshear (D) told reporters.

Beshear said more than 550,000 people have visited the state's Obamacare enrollment website since it launched on Oct. 1. More than 180,000 have called into the health care call center and about 69,000 people have signed up, or about 1,000 Kentuckians per day. Of those who have signed up, he said, 41 percent are under the age of 35.

"There is a tremendous pent-up demand in Kentucky for affordable health care," Beshear said. "People are hungry for it."

The governor also boasted of the law's economic benefits to the state. Over the next eight years, he said, it will generate $15 billion for Kentucky's economy and create 17,000 new jobs.

McConnell spokesman Don Stewart responded by citing an article about 280,000 Kentuckians being forced to give up their current insurance policies as a result of Obamacare requiring stricter guidelines for coverage.

Beshear made his remarks during a press conference with House Democratic leaders, just after meeting with the full Democratic caucus. He said his message to them was to "be patient, take a deep breath" as the administration works out kinks in getting the health care website fully up and running for people around the country.

Asked if he thinks Obamacare will be a factor in McConnell's reelection campaign in 2014, Beshear said "it may well be," but perhaps not in the way McConnell hopes.

"I predict it will be an issue where people start looking at the critics and say, 'What was all that yelling and screaming about? I think you must have misinformed us about the Affordable Care Act,'" he said.
 

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Sorry, guys.

Obamacare will fail.
The young and healthy who were supposed to buy in and fund the old sick people are not doing it.
They will pay the fine and get coverage if and when they get sick.
The numbers, as of now, are showing this and there will not be the glut of premiums flooding in to pay for the program.

The website alone, projected to cost some $53 million has now ballooned to over $1 billion.

Government projects, by their nature, are never efficient nor do they ever stay on or under budget.

Yes, I am painting with a broad brush here but it is a generalization that is generally true.
 

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Sorry, guys.

Obamacare will fail.
The young and healthy who were supposed to buy in and fund the old sick people are not doing it.
They will pay the fine and get coverage if and when they get sick.
The numbers, as of now, are showing this and there will not be the glut of premiums flooding in to pay for the program.

The website alone, projected to cost some $53 million has now ballooned to over $1 billion.

Government projects, by their nature, are never efficient nor do they ever stay on or under budget.

Yes, I am painting with a broad brush here but it is a generalization that is generally true.


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Obama Shamwow guy!

if O-care was soooo good, why the need to push it so hard? People would WANT to buy it
 

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Sorry, guys.

Obamacare will fail.
The young and healthy who were supposed to buy in and fund the old sick people are not doing it.
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Not so. In California, the only state I've seen so far which reports by age, something like 40% of enrolees are age 34 or under.
 

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How anyone could deny this guy is a compulsive liar at this point is beyond me. The funniest part is that every single lie that comes out, the same ole "He wasn't consulted" excuse is given:mj07: I get that people support their "side", but for fuks sake this is beyond comical at this point.



The White House was asked about their relationship in 2011 at which time the administration denied the President and Onyango Okech Obama had ever met. Carney retracted that information Thursday saying that the President himself had never been consulted about their relationship.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.co...ior-to-law-school-white-house-says/?hpt=hp_t1
 

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Surprise! One think tank says the Affordable Care Act is responsible for about 25 percent of a projected drop in health costs.

Amidst the dark skies of the Healthcare.gov launch, some daylight may finally be emerging with respect to one of the critical goals of the Affordable Care Act -- bending the cost curve of America's expensive health care system.



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According to a New York Times report earlier this week, the Congressional Budget Office has quietly removed hundreds of billions of dollars from the projected costs of Obamacare, primarily the result of an anticipated decrease in the federal government's contribution to the Medicaid expansion program along with the projected cost of the subsidy payments to those buying private insurance policies on the healthcare exchanges.


Naturally, the answer depends upon who you ask as there simply is no definitive way of knowing -- yet.


While most economists believe that the lion's share of the reduction is due to the sluggish economy -- making Americans far more careful when it comes to making decisions regarding when or if to spend money on medical care -- others believe that some of the plans built into the ACA designed to get people to spend less may actually be working.


Among Obamacare inventions that do appear to be paying off in lower health care costs is the government's refusal to pay hospitals more when patients are re-admitted within 30 days of their initial discharge. Additionally, new plan designs engineered to reward providers for quality of care rather than for quantity of care may well be paying off in terms of lowering the overall cost of care.


According to the Kaiser Family Foundation -- widely regarded as an honest, non-partisan broker when it comes to health care issues and analysis -- the declining increases in the cost of health care is 75 percent the result of economic factors and 25 percent a benefit of the cost cutting measures in the ACA that do, in fact, appear to be working.


Of course, the big question is whether or not these cost lowering provisions of Obamacare will continue to do the job once the economy regains its more typical trajectory.


There are reasons to be hopeful that health care spending can be held down once the economy kicks into higher gear.



For starters, while many Americans shopping for new health insurance policies may be decrying the higher deductibles they are discovering in the new offerings, higher deductibles should have a meaningful impact on the decisions people make when determining whether or not a visit to the doctor or agreeing to a given procedure is really necessary. While a $250 deductible will likely not cause a patient to ask how much a suggested CT Scan is going to cost, a $3,000-$5,000 deductible is far more likely to cause the patient to ask a few more questions and make more focused decisions when payment for the test is coming out-of-pocket.


Not surprisingly, there are no shortage of economists and pundits who believe that the ACA will prove inadequate to the task of controlling costs once the economy is in better shape.


Others are more hopeful, believing that the slowdown in costs are very much a result of hospitals and insurance companies understanding that something had to change given the unsustainable trends in rising costs. As a result of a desire to derail out-of-control costs before the costs derailed them, insurers and hospitals became involved in substantial systemic revisions designed to lower health care spending even before the government required them to do so.

Discussing whether the current decreases can last when previous periods of cost-curve bending did not, Annie Lowrey writes in her New York Times piece --


This time may be more durable. Insurance and hospital executives in Massachusetts, Illinois and California, among other places where reforms have gone the furthest, report a consensus that spending growth had become unsustainable, and that expectations that Washington would force changes to the system spurred them to make changes themselves.

If this is true -- and I believe the evidence reveals that it is -- these self-imposed changes, in tandem with the changes brought about by elements of Obamacare that don?t receive nearly as much attention as the more hot button issues, may prove to provide lasting changes to the system; changes that will point our cost trajectory in the right direction.


Like most elements of the Affordable Care Act, these issues and results only go to prove that far more time is required before we can even begin to measure the real benefits or detriments of Obamacare.


While this reality may prove unsatisfying to the media, politicians and those in the public who are so emotionally committed to the failure and ultimate death of Obamacare -- whether for political purposes or only so that the opponents can experience the satisfaction of having been right -- anyone interested in realistic measurement of this dramatic change in our system better settle in for the long run.
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Saving the country Billions


what more can we ask.


oh oh oh ...........the web site wasnt working for a month


oh oh oh ............he lied about keeping doctors


oh oh oh.........young ppl wont sign up


grow a sac Neo Cons


2016 will usher Hillary into the Presidential suite


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During an appearance on Fox News Thursday night, former Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.) discussed the death of Nelson Mandela, saying the former South African president fought "great injustice" just like Republicans who are battling Obamacare.

"Nelson Mandela stood up against a great injustice and was willing to pay a huge price for that. That's the reason he's mourned today, because of that struggle that he performed," Santorum said. "But you're right, I mean, what he was advocating for was not necessarily the right answer, but he was fighting against some great injustice, and I would make the argument that we have a great injustice going on right now in this country with an ever-increasing size of government that is taking over and controlling people's lives, and Obamacare is front and center in that."

The statement, pointed out by Slate's Dave Weigel in a tweet Friday morning, came after Fox News host Bill O'Reilly claimed Mandela "was a great man, but he was a communist."

"I would never attack Nelson Mandela," O'Reilly said next.

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I should have been President says Ricky ...........waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa


Mandela was a Communist says OReilly but I would never attack him. Where do we get these asswipes

That is the best the Neo Cons can do
 

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Not so. In California, the only state I've seen so far which reports by age, something like 40% of enrolees are age 34 or under.

Whoops, Kentucy just reported in. One third of their enrollees are 18-34.

So, ssd, where do you get your info that young folks aren't enrolling?? Do tell. Limbaugh? Glenn Beck? Faux Nuze?


You know, you should avoid making claims which are factually false.
 

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Mandela was a Communist says OReilly but I would never attack him. Where do we get these asswipes

I didn't realize calling someone by the political affiation
Was an attack these days?

Eugene went over the top during the Big Red Scare,
But shit. That was a longtime ago
Duff hadn't even burned his draft card yet...:0008....:0008
 

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Mandela was a Communist says OReilly but I would never attack him. Where do we get these asswipes

I didn't realize calling someone by the political affiation
Was an attack these days?

Eugene went over the top during the Big Red Scare,
But shit. That was a longtime ago
Duff hadn't even burned his draft card yet...:0008....:0008

Bad assumption, Lumi. Actually I still have my dogeared old draft card.

But I'll bet you burned your bra. And dropped your pants for a joint.
 

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Here's a good link for you, Duff.

http://www.oftwominds.com/blogdec13/Obamacare-catastrophe12-13.html

Interesting that you bring up California:

http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/2540272#.UqLPd42Zl8I.twitter

Or here is another good article:
http://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/martin-feldstein-on-how-america-s-health-care-reform-could-unravel (economics prof at Harvard)

or here:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-12-04/youth-break-with-president-on-obamacare-support-in-poll.html


Yes. My post is factually ACCURATE. I am not some fuck-knob like KOD who sits in his mom's basement and types into google:

"obamacare + gud" and then manages to use his one good opposable thumb to barely hit the CTRL V keys to instantly regurgitate the shit he found onto the screen without ever reading or understanding a single word of what he found. He is an Obama zombie.
 

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Okay, sSd. I read your factless links, a load of bogus claims and propaganda. You ought to know better, but I'll ask again, where is you factual information that young folks are not signing up under tha ACA?

What you posted is pure crap from unreliable, obscure and unverified sources. That's the sort of hogwash I'd expect from skulnutz.

Post something from a state insurance exchange, from the CBO, from a certified actuary, from someone, anyone who has facts, not invective, hearsay, and general unverifiable bullshit.

I know that you know better. Shame on you.

Here's a good link for you, Duff.

http://www.oftwominds.com/blogdec13/Obamacare-catastrophe12-13.html

Interesting that you bring up California:

http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/2540272#.UqLPd42Zl8I.twitter

Or here is another good article:
http://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/martin-feldstein-on-how-america-s-health-care-reform-could-unravel (economics prof at Harvard)

or here:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-12-04/youth-break-with-president-on-obamacare-support-in-poll.html


Yes. My post is factually ACCURATE. I am not some fuck-knob like KOD who sits in his mom's basement and types into google:

"obamacare + gud" and then manages to use his one good opposable thumb to barely hit the CTRL V keys to instantly regurgitate the shit he found onto the screen without ever reading or understanding a single word of what he found. He is an Obama zombie.
 
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