Browns wonder why they cant win

[the addict]

It is all about stability in the NFL.....more so at QB then any other position.



Final 2014 season stats for Browns rookie QBs:
■1st-rd pick Johnny Manziel: 175 pass yds, 2 INT
■Undrafted Connor Shaw: 177 pass yds, 1 INT





and hoyer who leads you to a overall mark of 11-5 in two seasons, and has you in playoff contention for the first time in FOREVER, and you bench him for a arrogant rookie who hasn't done anything to show you that he gives a shit????



I think it comes down to the management not having a backbone....



I mean finally in playoff contention with a guy who was won 70% of his starts nearly, and you bench him after a few rough starts (some of which he still won and led comebacks), all because the fans are unhappy?

the management caves into the fans wants to often.....

 

[Livin'tillthEnd]

It is all about stability in the NFL.....more so at QB then any other position.



Final 2014 season stats for Browns rookie QBs:
■1st-rd pick Johnny Manziel: 175 pass yds, 2 INT
■Undrafted Connor Shaw: 177 pass yds, 1 INT





and hoyer who leads you to a overall mark of 11-5 in two seasons, and has you in playoff contention for the first time in FOREVER, and you bench him for a arrogant rookie who hasn't done anything to show you that he gives a shit????



I think it comes down to the management not having a backbone....



I mean finally in playoff contention with a guy who was won 70% of his starts nearly, and you bench him after a few rough starts (some of which he still won and led comebacks), all because the fans are unhappy?

the management caves into the fans wants to often.....

bernie told us too addict

 

[REFLOG]

:toast:

It is all about stability in the NFL.....more so at QB then any other position.



Final 2014 season stats for Browns rookie QBs:
■1st-rd pick Johnny Manziel: 175 pass yds, 2 INT
■Undrafted Connor Shaw: 177 pass yds, 1 INT





and hoyer who leads you to a overall mark of 11-5 in two seasons, and has you in playoff contention for the first time in FOREVER, and you bench him for a arrogant rookie who hasn't done anything to show you that he gives a shit????



I think it comes down to the management not having a backbone....



I mean finally in playoff contention with a guy who was won 70% of his starts nearly, and you bench him after a few rough starts (some of which he still won and led comebacks), all because the fans are unhappy?

the management caves into the fans wants to often.....

 

[M.I.A.]

The Browns are a dumpster fire like my Falcons. Need to fire everybody who is anybody and start all over.

 

[the addict]

I think the browns have a bunch of tough guys though.

their Defense is full of tough nose S.O.B's



falcons are just soft

starting with HC


I was not impressed in any regard when watching hard knocks.

 

[M.I.A.]

I think the browns have a bunch of tough guys though.

their Defense is full of tough nose S.O.B's



falcons are just soft

starting with HC


I was not impressed in any regard when watching hard knocks.

I haven't been impressed with them since '98.

 

[Lightning]

It is all about stability in the NFL.....more so at QB then any other position.


Final 2014 season stats for Browns rookie QBs:
■1st-rd pick Johnny Manziel: 175 pass yds, 2 INT
■Undrafted Connor Shaw: 177 pass yds, 1 INT


and hoyer who leads you to a overall mark of 11-5 in two seasons, and has you in playoff contention for the first time in FOREVER, and you bench him for a arrogant rookie who hasn't done anything to show you that he gives a shit????


I think it comes down to the management not having a backbone....


I mean finally in playoff contention with a guy who was won 70% of his starts nearly, and you bench him after a few rough starts (some of which he still won and led comebacks), all because the fans are unhappy?

the management caves into the fans wants to often.....

You couldn't be more right. They finally appeared to have there sh*t together and were turning things around and then they draft Johnny Asshole, who just like Tebow, will be gone from the league in 2-3 years. At least Tebow was a good guy you could root for.

 

[the addict]

You couldn't be more right. They finally appeared to have there sh*t together and were turning things around and then they draft Johnny Asshole, who just like Tebow, will be gone from the league in 2-3 years. At least Tebow was a good guy you could root for.

Absolutey. Tebow was tolerable....jff makes me want to go down and fix his mother myself to make sure she cant have any more fucktards to call her "children"....


Although, at this point i'd be telling people JFF was adopted if I was his parent's. Or perhaps say we never had a DNA test to prove anything....

I cant imagine they can be proud of his conduct off the field.

I would soak up the good life as well, but there is a fine line between fun and dipshit....JFF crossed into dipshitville a long time ago.



I hope Hoyer gets another chance now that the Cleveland fans saw the alternatives. Not anyone can show up and go 11-5 overall as a starter and be 7-5 this year to start....so calling for JFF was ignorant and premature. ....the fact that the organization actually listened and put him in is why the browns are who we thought they were....

 

[the addict]

What a dbag after watching more

 

[gardenweasel]

Absolutey. Tebow was tolerable....jff makes me want to go down and fix his mother myself to make sure she cant have any more fucktards to call her "children"....


Although, at this point i'd be telling people JFF was adopted if I was his parent's. Or perhaps say we never had a DNA test to prove anything....

I cant imagine they can be proud of his conduct off the field.

I would soak up the good life as well, but there is a fine line between fun and dipshit....JFF crossed into dipshitville a long time ago.



I hope Hoyer gets another chance now that the Cleveland fans saw the alternatives. Not anyone can show up and go 11-5 overall as a starter and be 7-5 this year to start....so calling for JFF was ignorant and premature. ....the fact that the organization actually listened and put him in is why the browns are who we thought they were....

gotta say that hoyer was holding up o.k. for a good while...if the REAL a-hole(josh Gordon) hadn`t shit the bed,that team may have done a bit better and been in the race even longer....

then,after getting reinstated the idiot misses a walkthrough and gets suspended yet again....

the saving grace there is karmic(Gordon will probably have a lucrative free agency opportunity pass him by because the second suspension probably nixes his free agency availability).....maybe that will wake the guy up...

 

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[McKenzie]

Need to retool, no doubt. I would try allowing Manziel and Hoyer to compete for the QB job until you can get a better QB.