Bruce Lee would have been destroyed by any middle of the road wrestler. Single or double-leg takedown, some lay'n'pray, and a decision victory for the stupid wrestler. Bank that.
Bruce Lee in the octagon
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Let's get one thing straight.....without Bruce Lee there is no MMA today. Fighters train differently over time to adapt to the sport. Just like Gentleman Jim Morrison doesn't ever beat Mike Tyson in his prime either. This is a sport that is based solely on the ability to train the body and mind a discipline and since Bruce pretty much had proven that nobody could approach his level of discipline and nobody could for a very long time. How does that level of discipline and training not translate to now. He would have trained accordingly and come out on top. No doubt in my mind.
Hope that helps,
FDC
Hope that helps,
FDC
Bruce Lee died in 1973,
that is known, DUH !
He was the most dominate force in the sport
at that time.
His skill, style, athleticism, power, speed....
Fast forward to today, are we talking about a 33 year old Lee or 72 year old Lee?
If we take the 33 year old Lee, his age when he died, his style, disciplen would have adapted to todays MMA rules, if he had chosen to go that route.
Lee would have been a dominate force in todays MMA if he had trained for this type of fighting.
To say that Bruce could not compete or just be mediocore, would be like saying that Sandy Koufax, Don Drysdale or Bob Gibson would be the same in today's MLB. Or that Mickey Mantle, Babe Ruth and Hank Aaron would do ok in MLB.
They would also would have benifited from the changes in the game, training regimine and medical sciences.
that is known, DUH !
He was the most dominate force in the sport
at that time.
His skill, style, athleticism, power, speed....
Fast forward to today, are we talking about a 33 year old Lee or 72 year old Lee?
If we take the 33 year old Lee, his age when he died, his style, disciplen would have adapted to todays MMA rules, if he had chosen to go that route.
Lee would have been a dominate force in todays MMA if he had trained for this type of fighting.
To say that Bruce could not compete or just be mediocore, would be like saying that Sandy Koufax, Don Drysdale or Bob Gibson would be the same in today's MLB. Or that Mickey Mantle, Babe Ruth and Hank Aaron would do ok in MLB.
They would also would have benifited from the changes in the game, training regimine and medical sciences.
The original question posed was whether or not Bruce Lee could compete against today's MMA fighters. That would be taking Bruce Lee (as he was) and putting him against one of today's fighters. You don't get to train him in other disciplines, you take him as he was since the assumption is that MMA fighters have nothing on him.
Bruce Lee would get whipped. End of story. Royce Gracie answered the question roughly 20 years ago.
Bruce Lee would get whipped. End of story. Royce Gracie answered the question roughly 20 years ago.
I disagree. That isn't the question. What you are saying is the same as saying is MMA thirty years ago able to compete with MMA now. That is a simple answer in any sport. No. Training regimens, enhancers, everything is different.
Can Richard Petty beat Jimmy Johnson? Of course not, not if he has to use a thirty year body design and technology. Not a level playing field.
The question is, is Bruce Lee's talent and skill comparable to todays fighters and I would say not only is it comparable but much better. If Bruce Lee was on the same level playing field with all the things available to todays fighters?? Shit he would rip many of the fighters apart. I don't know if he would be the best but I would match his talent against anyones.
Or could a scrawny 48 or 24 handle the cars Petty drove with no power steering ? The answer is FUCK NO !
Damn Kenseth, chill....
Kidding.
Lumi,
I am saying if given the same tools and advancements in technology, things would be different. If not given the same advantages then it would be no contest.
For instance, Hank Aaron had the benefit of being allowed to take a fistful of amphetamines every day of his career while Bonds has enough steroids to make his skull grow. Not the same advantages.
Reread post number one in this thread. The assumption is that "MMA Bullshit" isn't worth a damn against a guy the caliber of Bruce Lee. The live experiment has already been performed and we learned that submission specialists competing against other disciplines that don't know how to stop it, can't. Bruce Lee would be tapping.
The way Cung Lee arrived on the scene i thought for sure with his build up he was Bruce Lees clone.
Okay, let me rephrase my answer a bit. Joker calling it MMA bullshit shows bias but doesn't speak to the ultimate question, which I believe is; If Bruce Lee was alive and in his prime, would he be able to compete in the arena of MMA and be successful?
If we apply MeCe principles to problem solving then we would need more information. That information would have to include the argument of is Bruce Lee confined to his skill set back in the 70's or would he have been afforded all the different advantages that make up the SPORT of MMA. MMA and Kickboxing are different for example. I think Bruce Lee had the physical and mental discipline to train hard enough and physical capabilities to perform at a very high level. Do you really think if Bruce Lee could train for ten years like most of them have that he couldn't kick the hell out Wanderlei Silva for example? Rich Franklin? Chuck Liddel? I do.
LOL at all the Madjack's MMA "experts" that think that Bruce Lee couldn't compete. Motherfucker makes Anderson Silva look slow, and last I checked he was considered by many to be the most dominant fighter in the sport's young history.
Speed kills.
Speed kills.
I agree with you for the most part except that he has slowed down tremendously in the last twenty years or so. You know, being dead and all.
Hope that helps,
FDC
So you are saying that we wake up Lee and use his talents back in the day he works Silva :mj07:
u basically said his speed would be to much for Anderson. Here is the problem. Anderson is a boxer who is almost impossible to hit with great hands. He is a black bet in Ju jitz. He has a lot of weapons. The best Karate guy in the world just got owned by a wrestler with other skills. If they didn't have rules Machida would be with Lee.
