This would be a better debate if this was Ali against the present boxers. I think Ali would beat 99 percent of them. Klitz and all that height and length could be a problem but i still think Ali would be to fast for him.
Bruce Lee in the octagon
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And what makes you any more of an 'expert'? Let me guess, you're a Bruce Lee fan who watched all of his movies and documentaries and came to the conclusion that he's faster than any mma fighter so therefore he would own them all? Before mma became a legit sport we all saw what Royce Gracie did in the first few UFCs, defeating bigger, stronger, faster and more athletic opponents. I don't think it matters how fast Lee was, alot of today's mma fighters could have easily closed the gap and taken him to the ground.
You know a martial artist that has been dead longer than you have been alive. We follow the careers of dozens of martial artists and are keenly aware of who Bruce Lee was. We're comparing martial artists, you're comparing Bruce Lee to your sense of what MMA represents.
I was agreeing with you FDC, I had essentially said the same thing in post 23 of this thread.
Had MMA existed in Lee's era, he would have been the best, because he was driven to be the best.
I don't know when you were a boot, or what you size was, but I'm sure the pugil sticks battles are semi :shrug: fresh in your mind. Learn the skill, knock the shit out of your battle buddy, and work you way thru your weight class. Then move up and take on weight classes either above or below you.
I was 5'7 145 at the beginning of Basic Training, so for me my weight class was a breeze. Also, my batlle buddy was 6'3 215 and played free safety at E. Tenn St. Strong SOB, he now is a SGT in in the Memphis PD. So I had to learn this skill against a guy in several weight classes above me. I took several whacks to the nugget that almost turned out the lights, good thing for the helmets ! I worked my way thru the classes, as did he, and we were the final battle. Three, two min rounds, it started off with a classic and graceful battle, but after the first min of each round it got sloppy. We tried for KO shots each round and almost achieved it with a few staggering blows to each other. Round three, we are the walking dead, but we go full speed, full fury, and go Mickey Mantle on each other with the first shot, dead red connection ! lights flash, pinballs lights everywhere, I am going to be worm food ! Face mask going straight into the sand ! The countdown begins, but I hear 2 DI's counting, at the count of 5 I can finally move my head and see that my opponent is eating South Carolina Dirt as well ! We both struggle to get up on spaghetti noodle knees, and make it just before 10, we get into the ready position with time still on the clock, and the Senior DI calls it, NO MORE ! I'm not taking you assholes to the ER, fight over ! go make some shade, drink water, take 15, Great Fight !
Point being, the little guy can compete ! I have always had too. In sports as youth and all the way through High School ! I dealt with doubting coaches and opponents who felt they would "smoke" me. Well the coaches came to realize that I could play and the opponents had to quit flat dicking it when I lined up in a passing formation. If they were 10 yards of the line of scrimmage, it was a 7 yard slant in and see ya later. If they came up close to the line, it was a "Sluggo". Then they double covered me and the ball went the other way. Put me in the backfield and the eyes were on me, with the starting tailback who was 5'6 180. So, us little guy's :mj07: we couldn't compete, until you were looking at our names on the back of our jersey.
Same with Lee in the scenario given, fighting in today's MMA and he was at the same age, same training, or even without MMA ground and pound. He was so fast and powerful, no one would get close enough to get a hold on Lee to take him to the ground because they would be too busy looking for their teeth.
Great story brother!!! I loved the pugil sticks. I actually made it to the final but I didn't win. Hell I didn't make the five count, old boy knocked me out clean in the third and final round to win it. He got to sit and enjoy a refreshing beverage and I got thrashed in the pit by my SDI for losing to a guy in our sister series. He was pissed.
Funny story, we had the "Smokers" as well. which is boxing for those that don't know this, and we had a dude from Brooklyn that was every bit of 148 of bone and Brooklyn attitude. He volunteers to fight because he says he used to fight as a young lad in Brooklyn and they called him "Bennie the Jet". This is true man, you just can't make this shit up. Anyway, we get all our platoon fighters designated and then comes the big day. Bennie the Jet gets his face treated like an overstuffed heavy bag for about eight seconds and jumps out of the ring. Great. Now I am the last guy to go and I have to take on this farm fresh fuck from Iowa. Holy fuck balls those hay balers can take a number of punches and still hit just as hard as a haymaker. Anyway, I advance all the way through and win my Company against the very guy that knocked me out in the pugil competition. So, I am all proud of myself, we don't have to go to the pit so as we stand there to get the stupid little award from the company captain.....Bennie the Jet does a header off the platform out fucking cold from whatever.....Everybody rushes to his aid and I never get my stupid fucking medal. Bennie the fucking jet.....sheesh. He washed out a week later too, complaining of dizziness.
I still thought the Kenseth thing was funny though. Just saying. :0074
For some reason I get the feeling that you were playing with your star wars action figures as you were typing that.
Hey guys - I know you are all wondering what the answer is and you are all wondering if you are right or not.
Well.........the answer is.............Bruce Lee would win every fight with any MMA douche living today.
The end. :sadwave:
Well.........the answer is.............Bruce Lee would win every fight with any MMA douche living today.
The end. :sadwave:
A living, healthy Bruce Lee transplanted to 2012 with only the skill set he had and no other training gets dominated by even mediocre mma opponents.
Bruce Lee in 2012 with mma training could very easily be a champion.
Hypotheticals suck anyway, but these are two totally different questions.
Bruce Lee in 2012 with mma training could very easily be a champion.
Hypotheticals suck anyway, but these are two totally different questions.
No,
I was Army, Ft Jackson, SC
We did the water treading shit too,
sleeping in the swamp, tied to a tree,
duct tape our boots on so the mud wouldn't
pull our boots off.
I live about 90 mins from the Stumps now.
See the young Jarheads in town all the time,
they are lurking around my daughter at the mall
when she is working.
Good kids, but you can see the pain in there eyes,
only a warrior would know the look.
It scares me, more than that, it disheartens me that
there is another entire generation of hardened, scarred children, most of them, coming back to the States. I have seen them at the VA, I wasn't around for Vietnam, I was 7 when it ended, so I can't compare the 2 groups of warriors, but I think this group is going to have a tougher time.
What's the Kenseth deal?
I was Army, Ft Jackson, SC
We did the water treading shit too,
sleeping in the swamp, tied to a tree,
duct tape our boots on so the mud wouldn't
pull our boots off.
I live about 90 mins from the Stumps now.
See the young Jarheads in town all the time,
they are lurking around my daughter at the mall
when she is working.
Good kids, but you can see the pain in there eyes,
only a warrior would know the look.
It scares me, more than that, it disheartens me that
there is another entire generation of hardened, scarred children, most of them, coming back to the States. I have seen them at the VA, I wasn't around for Vietnam, I was 7 when it ended, so I can't compare the 2 groups of warriors, but I think this group is going to have a tougher time.
What's the Kenseth deal?
