bush for president
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Ditto.
Ditto.
Some of you just don't get it - OUR MUSLIM ENEMIES WILL NEVER FEAR US! All the bombs in the world will not change this. This notion that Al Qaeda and other terror groups want Kerry to win is absurd. Terrorists thrive on hostility - in confirms their cause in their minds and makes recruiting easier. ...Look at Iraq - what a feild day for terrorists. Bush did terrorists the greatest favor in the world by invading Iraq, and getting us distracted away from Bin Laden.
Yeah, no crap. Who put us in this war, without a strategy for victory and closure?
And if we can turn to every other issue in this country, I think we can all agree that we are worse off than 4 years ago:
Environment - putting a Bush crony at the head of the EPA and rolling back the Clean Air Act is an offense to everyone ....except Haliburton!
Budget - Surplus (sort of) to record deficit. Nice job. WE'LL BE PAYING FOR THOSE TAX-CUTS TENFOLD IN THE LONG RUN.
Science-Research - Ban on new stem cells. Way to cater to the fundamentalists and limit our medical potential, while simultaneously sending some of our greatest researchers oversees, where they are actually allowed to fully research.
Jobs - Doing nothing to discourage outsourcing has been disgraceful. The job recovery? - well, corporate profits were up 65%, but wages and salaries were flat. Gap between wealthy and working class is now at it's greatest since the DEPRESSION!
Overpopulation/Illegal Immigration - one area that a conservative SHOULD maybe be better than a Dem, BUT BUSH is changing the law to allow illegals to essentially have a free pass here. All that will do is keep pressure on keeping the minimum wage at the disgustingly low levels their at.
OIL,ENERGY,FUELS - What the hell? Where is the research and mileage standards to get us off Saudi Oil (the root of almost all our mideast problems by the way). All we need to do is increase automobile fuel efficiency by 50%, and we don't need any of it! As China and India modernize, they are gobbling up much bigger portions of this finite resource anyway. What has Bush done? NOTHING!
so much more.....
You know a Kerry admin will not be this bad!
Environment - putting a Bush crony at the head of the EPA and rolling back the Clean Air Act is an offense to everyone ....except Haliburton!
Budget - Surplus (sort of) to record deficit. Nice job. WE'LL BE PAYING FOR THOSE TAX-CUTS TENFOLD IN THE LONG RUN.
Science-Research - Ban on new stem cells. Way to cater to the fundamentalists and limit our medical potential, while simultaneously sending some of our greatest researchers oversees, where they are actually allowed to fully research.
Jobs - Doing nothing to discourage outsourcing has been disgraceful. The job recovery? - well, corporate profits were up 65%, but wages and salaries were flat. Gap between wealthy and working class is now at it's greatest since the DEPRESSION!
Overpopulation/Illegal Immigration - one area that a conservative SHOULD maybe be better than a Dem, BUT BUSH is changing the law to allow illegals to essentially have a free pass here. All that will do is keep pressure on keeping the minimum wage at the disgustingly low levels their at.
OIL,ENERGY,FUELS - What the hell? Where is the research and mileage standards to get us off Saudi Oil (the root of almost all our mideast problems by the way). All we need to do is increase automobile fuel efficiency by 50%, and we don't need any of it! As China and India modernize, they are gobbling up much bigger portions of this finite resource anyway. What has Bush done? NOTHING!
so much more.....
You know a Kerry admin will not be this bad!
But let's keep the subject matter to Vietnam, so that the real issues which are eating this country from the inside are not discussed.
I'm thoroughly nauseas. I'm not a big Kerry fan, but Bush has been easily the worst President in my lifetime. This phony patriotism crap offends my entire family (which has served in every war, by the way). A flag sticker on the bumper of an SUV is so hypocritical - AND YET WE CANT FIGURE THIS OUT!
We are so blinded this feeling that Bush is the only thing between us a thousand 9-11's. we give him a blank check to to get us into whatver war he (Halliburton) wants, destroy our environment, and waste the middle-class.
It's not like there will be no military under Kerry. It's not like he'll cut and run from Iraq (he won't). In all likelyhood, he'll better manage our budget to provide more security domestically. And he'll take steps to change our Saudi oil dependency.
I'm thoroughly nauseas. I'm not a big Kerry fan, but Bush has been easily the worst President in my lifetime. This phony patriotism crap offends my entire family (which has served in every war, by the way). A flag sticker on the bumper of an SUV is so hypocritical - AND YET WE CANT FIGURE THIS OUT!
We are so blinded this feeling that Bush is the only thing between us a thousand 9-11's. we give him a blank check to to get us into whatver war he (Halliburton) wants, destroy our environment, and waste the middle-class.
It's not like there will be no military under Kerry. It's not like he'll cut and run from Iraq (he won't). In all likelyhood, he'll better manage our budget to provide more security domestically. And he'll take steps to change our Saudi oil dependency.
smurphy. Does the "s" stand for Saul?
Good post. My favorite Bushism is how he labels legislation with neat, catchy names like "The Forest Preservation Act" and "The Patriot Act." I mean who in there right mind could be against those laws.
Well, the former lessens all sorts of restrictions on lumbermen so they can basically make tons of money by chopping down forests without concern for the environment and animal species while the latter takes away individual freedoms and allows government into all sorts of places which are private to Americans.
Ya know when ya think about it, back in 1776 thats exactly why we had that little old uprising against Tony Blairs great, great, great, great grandfather (and Margaret Thatchers cousins) called the Revolutionary War. Its only been 225 years and how quickly we forget.
You guys might say remember 9-11. While I agree, we should never forget. I will add, remember 1776.
Eddie
Good post. My favorite Bushism is how he labels legislation with neat, catchy names like "The Forest Preservation Act" and "The Patriot Act." I mean who in there right mind could be against those laws.
Well, the former lessens all sorts of restrictions on lumbermen so they can basically make tons of money by chopping down forests without concern for the environment and animal species while the latter takes away individual freedoms and allows government into all sorts of places which are private to Americans.
Ya know when ya think about it, back in 1776 thats exactly why we had that little old uprising against Tony Blairs great, great, great, great grandfather (and Margaret Thatchers cousins) called the Revolutionary War. Its only been 225 years and how quickly we forget.
You guys might say remember 9-11. While I agree, we should never forget. I will add, remember 1776.
Eddie
ocelot said:
Yeah Ocelot- we're afraid of you.
Smurph- Usually I agree w/your posts, excellent post on Environment, Budget, etc. As for Some of you just don't get it - OUR MUSLIM ENEMIES WILL NEVER FEAR US! Why do they hide their face, kill unarmed ppl including women & children & although they talk of fighting to the death they hide in mosques and I only see the dregs of their society as suicide bombers? Just asking as maybe I'm missing something here.
Eddie- http://www.rncdelegates.com/
I suppose I don't regard those tactics as being "fearful". They obviously have no regard for decency or "rules of warfare" (if there can be such a thing). I certainly would never propose catering to them - but I truly don't feel we ever strike fear in them. They (the ones willing to be terrorists) are past the point of no return. Many of them welcome death - obviously. I have no problem destroying these people. This is exactly why I don't understand why we went to Iraq instead of focusing on Al Qaeda and the nation which gave birth to most of the 9-11 terrorists (SA).
A**hole. Idiot!!! WTF IS WRONG W/YOU??? You don't make any sense and avoid the issues. You just can't admit tha- Hold the phone, Stop the music, flag the bus. :thinking:
Tip o the Hat & Thanks Smurph :142squint
Tip o the Hat & Thanks Smurph :142squint
I'm confused, Chan. Were you with me or against me there? You are operating on a more advanced level than I, I'm afraid 
...errr, I think I'm too new to get some of the INSIDERS. Be patient, bare with me - I'll catch on :142lmao:
...errr, I think I'm too new to get some of the INSIDERS. Be patient, bare with me - I'll catch on :142lmao: 
smurphy, if you think Bush is the worst President since you've been alive,,you had to be born after Carter. Talking about the economy in the toilet! Interest rates sky-high, terrorists were kidnapping planes and taking hostages, unemployement, etc..
I agree Bush is no Reagan, but he's better than Clinton and Daddy Bush, for that matter.
IMO, thanks
I agree Bush is no Reagan, but he's better than Clinton and Daddy Bush, for that matter.
IMO, thanks
I was alive during Carter, but too young to give a fair evaluation at that time. Perhaps I should have re-worded "worst since old enough to vote".
No president sice LBJ ever rushed into a conlfict so wrecklessly though, have they? I don't think any that I can remember were so fiscally irresponsible.
How can Bush be considered better than anyone in recent history? Is it just because he's willing to rally us around the flag and send us to war? There's not one other issue that he's done well. The country is worse off in every aspect that I can see than before he took office.
I would give him more credit if things appeared temporary due to our wartime situation. But his policies don't imply that anything will be better, even if we are able to resolve Iraq.
Our leadership MUST be progressive right now. Oil is only going to get more scarce and expensive. The environment will only go one direction as resources are depleted. The job base does not return, once it leaves. Borrowing money from the budget now ONLY means we'll be paying with interest over the years.
Bush is using an antiquated playbook for a modern game. Kerry is no progressive marvel, but his administartion will at least do some things to help us be prepared for the changing world.
No president sice LBJ ever rushed into a conlfict so wrecklessly though, have they? I don't think any that I can remember were so fiscally irresponsible.
How can Bush be considered better than anyone in recent history? Is it just because he's willing to rally us around the flag and send us to war? There's not one other issue that he's done well. The country is worse off in every aspect that I can see than before he took office.
I would give him more credit if things appeared temporary due to our wartime situation. But his policies don't imply that anything will be better, even if we are able to resolve Iraq.
Our leadership MUST be progressive right now. Oil is only going to get more scarce and expensive. The environment will only go one direction as resources are depleted. The job base does not return, once it leaves. Borrowing money from the budget now ONLY means we'll be paying with interest over the years.
Bush is using an antiquated playbook for a modern game. Kerry is no progressive marvel, but his administartion will at least do some things to help us be prepared for the changing world.
Shane:
I have a ton of Irish friends being raised Catholic, Patrick Kelly, Michael Doyle, Sean O'Flagherty, etc. As is obvious by now, I used to go to alot of bars. However, I always had hoped to meet an Irish guy named Saul. Since I don't know you coupled with the anonimity of the internet, I, with your permission will call you Saul. Humor an old guy.
I realize the republicans do not care about our image in the world but I still cannot believe how, in the space of two years, Bush could take the sympathy of the world (and more importantly the support of the world community against terrorism) and turn it 180 degrees. For that reason alone, he must be ousted.
The really sad thing is that with the worlds support we probably would have found Bin Laden, destroyed Al-Quida and significantly reduced the threat of terrorism in this country. But of course, Bush does not want that as this countries electorate living in fear would enhance his re-election possiblities.
Eddie
I have a ton of Irish friends being raised Catholic, Patrick Kelly, Michael Doyle, Sean O'Flagherty, etc. As is obvious by now, I used to go to alot of bars. However, I always had hoped to meet an Irish guy named Saul. Since I don't know you coupled with the anonimity of the internet, I, with your permission will call you Saul. Humor an old guy.
I realize the republicans do not care about our image in the world but I still cannot believe how, in the space of two years, Bush could take the sympathy of the world (and more importantly the support of the world community against terrorism) and turn it 180 degrees. For that reason alone, he must be ousted.
The really sad thing is that with the worlds support we probably would have found Bin Laden, destroyed Al-Quida and significantly reduced the threat of terrorism in this country. But of course, Bush does not want that as this countries electorate living in fear would enhance his re-election possiblities.
Eddie
Don't worry be happy. Us Americans are to be happy when getting it in the ass from the rest of the world. Hell we don't need to work with anyone else.
P.S.- Eddie, What about BeanTownJim?
World - Reuters
N.Korea Hurls Abuse at Bush, Calls Him Human Trash
By Jack Kim
SEOUL (Reuters) - North Korea (news - web sites) hurled invective at President Bush (news - web sites) for a second day Tuesday, calling him a political idiot and human trash, and said six-party talks on Pyongyang's nuclear ambitions appeared doomed.
A day earlier, a Foreign Ministry spokesman for the isolated communist state described Bush as a tyrannical imbecile who put Adolf Hitler in the shade and said Pyongyang could see no justification to negotiate with his administration.
Six-party working-level talks on the communist North's nuclear weapons ambitions had been planned for August but have yet to materialize.
The September date for more senior talks is also in question, although diplomats note Pyongyang often raises its rhetorical voice before attending talks or compromising.
Bush had "hurled malignant slanders and calumnies" against the leadership in Pyongyang, the North's official KCNA news agency said in a statement, referring to campaign comments made earlier this month that Pyongyang should be required to disarm.
"It is the greatest tragedy for the U.S. that Bush, a political idiot and human trash, still remains in the presidential office of the world's only superpower, styling himself an emperor of the world," KCNA said.
"Had Bush have even an iota of elementary reason, morality and ability to judge reality as a human being, he would have not dared defile the political system of his dialogue partner so malignantly.
Washington has already rejected Monday's comments as inappropriate and said officials of the countries were working to schedule further talks on the North's nuclear programs.
China has played host in Beijing to three rounds of talks involving North and South Korea (news - web sites), the United States, Japan and Russia, and a fourth round is planned by the end of next month.
The crisis over North Korea's nuclear programs erupted in October 2002 when U.S. officials said North Korea had admitted to working on a secret program to enrich uranium for weapons. North Korea denies having such a program.
South Korea's top negotiator to the talks left Tuesday for Beijing for consultations on arranging a next meeting. He will meet Japanese officials in Tokyo later this week.
"Now that the U.S. has clearly revealed its true intention, the DPRK can no longer pin any hope on the six-party talks and there is a question as to whether there is any need for it to negotiate with the U.S. any more," KCNA said.
DPRK is short for the North's official name, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.
South Korean officials have said the North has previously turned up its belligerent rhetoric against the United States before staging an about-face and agreeing to attend negotiations.
Some North Korea analysts say the bluster masks Pyongyang's true aim; to bide its time until it is clear whether Bush or Democrat challenger John Kerry (news - web sites) is elected in November's presidential election.
Bush enraged the North shortly after taking office when he called North Korean leader Kim Jong-il a loathsome "pygmy" and then later branded his impoverished nation a member of an "axis of evil" along with Iran and pre-war Iraq (news - web sites).
World - Reuters
N.Korea Hurls Abuse at Bush, Calls Him Human Trash
By Jack Kim
SEOUL (Reuters) - North Korea (news - web sites) hurled invective at President Bush (news - web sites) for a second day Tuesday, calling him a political idiot and human trash, and said six-party talks on Pyongyang's nuclear ambitions appeared doomed.
A day earlier, a Foreign Ministry spokesman for the isolated communist state described Bush as a tyrannical imbecile who put Adolf Hitler in the shade and said Pyongyang could see no justification to negotiate with his administration.
Six-party working-level talks on the communist North's nuclear weapons ambitions had been planned for August but have yet to materialize.
The September date for more senior talks is also in question, although diplomats note Pyongyang often raises its rhetorical voice before attending talks or compromising.
Bush had "hurled malignant slanders and calumnies" against the leadership in Pyongyang, the North's official KCNA news agency said in a statement, referring to campaign comments made earlier this month that Pyongyang should be required to disarm.
"It is the greatest tragedy for the U.S. that Bush, a political idiot and human trash, still remains in the presidential office of the world's only superpower, styling himself an emperor of the world," KCNA said.
"Had Bush have even an iota of elementary reason, morality and ability to judge reality as a human being, he would have not dared defile the political system of his dialogue partner so malignantly.
Washington has already rejected Monday's comments as inappropriate and said officials of the countries were working to schedule further talks on the North's nuclear programs.
China has played host in Beijing to three rounds of talks involving North and South Korea (news - web sites), the United States, Japan and Russia, and a fourth round is planned by the end of next month.
The crisis over North Korea's nuclear programs erupted in October 2002 when U.S. officials said North Korea had admitted to working on a secret program to enrich uranium for weapons. North Korea denies having such a program.
South Korea's top negotiator to the talks left Tuesday for Beijing for consultations on arranging a next meeting. He will meet Japanese officials in Tokyo later this week.
"Now that the U.S. has clearly revealed its true intention, the DPRK can no longer pin any hope on the six-party talks and there is a question as to whether there is any need for it to negotiate with the U.S. any more," KCNA said.
DPRK is short for the North's official name, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.
South Korean officials have said the North has previously turned up its belligerent rhetoric against the United States before staging an about-face and agreeing to attend negotiations.
Some North Korea analysts say the bluster masks Pyongyang's true aim; to bide its time until it is clear whether Bush or Democrat challenger John Kerry (news - web sites) is elected in November's presidential election.
Bush enraged the North shortly after taking office when he called North Korean leader Kim Jong-il a loathsome "pygmy" and then later branded his impoverished nation a member of an "axis of evil" along with Iran and pre-war Iraq (news - web sites).
These other international leaders are not helping when they say things like this. While these people can make some good points regarding Bush's policies - they lose credibility and only anger Americans when they are so stupid and short-sighted as to make Hitler comparisons. KOREA for christ's sake! Just goes to show you, that war was probably not worth it.
Don't they realize this will only make us more defiant - and it probably actually has a reverse effect if their desire is to see Americans vote against Bush?
We are stupid, the world is just as stupid. Man, I'm pretty damn pessimistic right now.
-Saul
Don't they realize this will only make us more defiant - and it probably actually has a reverse effect if their desire is to see Americans vote against Bush?
We are stupid, the world is just as stupid. Man, I'm pretty damn pessimistic right now.
-Saul
smurphy said:-Saul
:banghead: Looks like Eddie got Murph role playing too.
Murph- I think there is a big difference between North & Soth Korea.
