can any of you guys who can search past ats results . . .

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loophole said:
tell me what unc's ats record is the game before playing duke, say over the last 20 years?
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Over the last 20 years (roughly 2006–2026), there is no widely compiled or documented specific ATS record for North Carolina in the game immediately before facing Duke. This is a very niche situational trend, and betting databases or trend articles don't appear to track it explicitly over that full span.However, a clear pattern has emerged in recent years: UNC has struggled straight up (SU) in potential "trap" or "look-ahead" spots right before Duke matchups, often midweek ACC games. Since 2020, the Tar Heels are 1-5 SU in such games, with a current three-game losing streak.Specific examples include:
  • Loss at Georgia Tech (74-73) in 2024 → UNC was favored by around 8-10 points in most lines, so failed to cover badly (and lost outright).
  • Double-digit loss vs. Pittsburgh (likely 2025) → Heavily favored, major ATS failure.
  • Close loss vs. Pittsburgh (65-64) in 2023 → Likely a push or minor failure depending on the exact line.
Given UNC is typically a significant favorite in these games against mid-to-lower tier ACC opponents, this 1-5 SU run strongly suggests a poor ATS record in those spots recently (likely 1-5 or 0-6 ATS).The "trap game" concern is noted in UNC coverage as a recurring issue in the last 5-6 seasons, but not highlighted as a long-term 20-year trend. Older seasons may have been closer to break-even or better in these spots, balancing it out overall, but no precise long-term data was found.
 
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thanks Jack, that's my recollection also but, of course, these days my recollection isn't what it used to be. but i think it's good enough to try the 'cuse +12 tonight.
 
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dd, we actually go back further than that. i believe mid july 1999 was when we switched over to a new message board from the older one. Jack - is that right?
 
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loophole said:
dd, we actually go back further than that. i believe mid july 1999 was when we switched over to a new message board from the older one. Jack - is that right?
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Right! This site started in 1998 with the Ultimate Bulletin Board forums before I switched over to vBulletin.
 
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