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never let a crisis go to waste???????:shrug: ... bush/cheney didn't write the manual but they used it to the detriment of America & the world after 911... don't KNOW if it was intensional but the last administration made a great argument for less govrernment, they never did anything right after or durring a crisis....every politicain who has little regard for their constituents, that's most of them, loves a crisis.. they have to justify their existence. .. it's not unique to the left or right. it's not just givaways for da base/poor ... TAKE A LOOK AT THE WELFARE PROGRAMS AND THE GIVE AWAYS FOR THE RICH THE LAST 8 + YRS,... We just went threw the greatest redistribution of wealth in American history and it didn't go to working or poor America. Your out there somewhere over some rainbow that most of us can't see... come back to reality ! fucking delusion ! Obama lets them eat cake/ drops food stamps. After the way middle and poor America was raped the last 8 yrs, he had to do something.. The last administration wiped out yrs of hard work and savings of working and poor America and you cry now ? I know, I know, you still believe the #'s.... I'm not saying move to the left but you have to move away from what just took place the last 8 yrs..... Anti Americans that cry from the right, the same people that defended the destruction of America have zero credibility !

Define middle class?

I'm as middle class as you can get--
--and results of GW admin was tax cut and capital gains cut--which Gumby is wanting to repeal.

So you tell me who is on my side (the tax payor/saver)--and how I was raped

I think you find most ( that pay taxes--and their mortages on time) weren't/aren't the ones looking for hope and change--but looking to be left alone and get the gov's nose/hands out of our affairs-habits-and pockets.

Give a man a fish--you feed him for a day
Teach a man to fish--you fed him for a lifetime.

Wheres all thosejobs "others" didn't want-that Liberals were speaking of when promoting illegals???:shrug:
 

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this response is BS... you don't have to look under rocks to find many tax paying savers who are looking for work and hope is all they have..
 

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If the poor can obtain revenue through the federally funded welfare program. Now, if they can also receive free medical care.......

Where is the incentive/motivation to get a job and be a productive part of society?

Seems like this setup only encourages folks to continue to rely on the gov't.

Is that the type of society we really want?
You Republicans are so deluded, you actually believe liberals think welfare is a good thing. Well, you're wrong. I've never heard a single liberal say that welfare's a good thing. But we're pragmatists and until we live in a perfect world, we'll go on trying to feed the hungry, house the homeless and take care of the sick, the indigent and the elderly. If that upsets Republican sensibilities, so be it.

Guys like you and DTB are constantly harping about welfare, but you NEVER complain about this...

For the 2009 fiscal year, the base military budget rose to $515.4 billion. Adding emergency discretionary spending and supplemental spending brings the sum to $651.2 billion. This does not include many military-related items that are outside of the Defense Department budget. As of 2009, the United States government is spending about $1 trillion annually on defense-related purposes.

Is it because you actually believe we need to spend $1 TRILLION a year on defense to make you feel safe at night when you and the little wifey retire to your condo at Del Boca Vista?
 

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You Republicans are so deluded, you actually believe liberals think welfare is a good thing. Well, you're wrong. I've never heard a single liberal say that welfare's a good thing. But we're pragmatists and until we live in a perfect world, we'll go on trying to feed the hungry, house the homeless and take care of the sick, the indigent and the elderly. If that upsets Republican sensibilities, so be it.

Guys like you and DTB are constantly harping about welfare, but you NEVER complain about this...

For the 2009 fiscal year, the base military budget rose to $515.4 billion. Adding emergency discretionary spending and supplemental spending brings the sum to $651.2 billion. This does not include many military-related items that are outside of the Defense Department budget. As of 2009, the United States government is spending about $1 trillion annually on defense-related purposes.

Is it because you actually believe we need to spend $1 TRILLION a year on defense to make you feel safe at night when you and the little wifey retire to your condo at Del Boca Vista?

http://video.google.com/videosearch...ard massacre video&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wv#
 

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"... and Death Panels insure there are ALWAYS vacancies!"
 

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Of course you're trying to go somewhere. Read your own words.

You're just another whiner who is absolutely clueless.

Now go get your arse signed up for welfare. Then you can suck me off.

Your FOWL remarks are bad for Political discussion, but people like Chadman are silent about it, they would rather complain about TRUTHFUL Youtube videos than confront personal attacks.

:nono:
 

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I wasn't trying to go anywhere with this thread.

People have always abused Gov't programs and now that there will be free health care....where is the incentive to find a job for those that continue to suck off the rest of us.

It just seems that we/our system encourages people to continue to live off Uncle Sam.

I went to a Food Lion at the beginning of this month....There were about 15 checkout lines (big store). As I looked down those 15 checkout lines...I hardly seen any real money being exchanged for this food. It was mostly food stamps. Then I noticed that most of those folks were pretty capable of working....most probably more capable than me.

By God---let's give everyone free health care, too!

I am not a fan of Obama's plan either. But these people you speak of are already getting free Health Care. They do not get refused at a hospital emergency room. They clog it up, get there cold medicine for free, and go home. Or stay or whatever. Somebody pays that bill. And as usual it is us.
With unemploymet so high more people need food stamps. Also, many small business owners cheat the system and qualify for food stamps because they pay themselves a small salary. Abuses are everywhere.
 

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I think you are looking for a free handout.

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have not punched a time clock since 1979...I make it rain .. I pay it out. I collected unemployment for 3 or 4 wks in 1980... since then I have never looked back... never asked anyone for anything but the chance to earn their business... come work with us for a day and then talk to me about handouts... I hand it out ! who the fuck are you ?
 

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I left out... Kiss my ass ! guys like you mAKE ME PUKE... GET MY E MAIL FROM JACK AND I'LL GIVE YOU THE CHANCE TO COME UP TO MY DOOR AND TALK THAT SHIT. GUYS LIKE YOU COULDN'T OR WOULDN'T LAST A WK TRYING TO STAY CLOSE TO ME THE LAST 18 YRS.
 
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I'm in line behind AIG for my hand out... The stock was a buck before the tax payers went all in.. What is it today smart guy ??? thats not welfare ???? what kind of redistribution of wealth to you call that DTB ????
 

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Wilson, right wing nut job

Wilson, right wing nut job

I think you are looking for a free handout.

:thefinger

Looks like you'er looking for a good old fashion ass whipping... I think bryanz is about to give you one !!!! :142smilie
 

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Define middle class?

I'm as middle class as you can get--
--and results of GW admin was tax cut and capital gains cut--which Gumby is wanting to repeal.

So you tell me who is on my side (the tax payor/saver)--and how I was raped

I think you find most ( that pay taxes--and their mortages on time) weren't/aren't the ones looking for hope and change--but looking to be left alone and get the gov's nose/hands out of our affairs-habits-and pockets.

Give a man a fish--you feed him for a day
Teach a man to fish--you fed him for a lifetime.

Wheres all thosejobs "others" didn't want-that Liberals were speaking of when promoting illegals???:shrug:

define middle class : not you and me ... who's your boss ? you and I work for ourselves. we don't depend on others and hope government stets the right climate for our prosperity or worse yet, survival... your not as dumb as you want us to believe..
 
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I left out... Kiss my ass ! guys like you mAKE ME PUKE... GET MY E MAIL FROM JACK AND I'LL GIVE YOU THE CHANCE TO COME UP TO MY DOOR AND TALK THAT SHIT. GUYS LIKE YOU COULDN'T OR WOULDN'T LAST A WK TRYING TO STAY CLOSE TO ME THE LAST 18 YRS.

Bryan-

I know you are handicapped and your brain only functions every 5 minutes......However, can you please keep all your thoughts in one post? Maybe collect them all during your 18 hour work day and then click submit reply.

Thanks. :0corn
 

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Bryan-

I know you are handicapped and your brain only functions every 5 minutes......However, can you please keep all your thoughts in one post? Maybe collect them all during your 18 hour work day and then click submit reply.

Thanks. :0corn

that's all you have ?
 

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I wonder in the current economic down turn, do food stamps retain their face value or do the mirror the value of the dollar ?

As far as hell care goes, there really needs to be something done about the silly shit that happens at ER's and Quickie Clinics. If some schlep, illegal immigrant or one who does not have insurance wanders in with a sniffle or the hershey squirts, there needs to be a quicker and overall more efficient way to take care of these patients so those who have more serious issues aren't sitting in the waiting room watching MTV2 Espanol for 3 FUCKING HOURS ! :nono: I don't have my migraines on a schedule, but I had one that could melt a tank, of course, friday night 630 pm ! And the ER was teeming with No hablas with runny noses, so I had my friend go to my truck and get my protective mask for me, because chances are, these booger factories haven't had their shots.

Well guess what? The mask made the children uncomfortable ! What? It's a white painters mask with filters on it, I didn't drag out my Military style gas mask. I told the bitch in charge, too bad, these kids are sneezing and coughing, and I don't want to get sick, and have the right to wear it, if you have a private waiting room for me or want to get me in to see the doc now, problem solved. I waited 5 mins, some fat fuck security guard asked me to come with him, I thought I was going to a private room, NO ! I had to deal with another slob'osecurity guard and some admin puke, and go thru the same dick dance. I still wasn't going to take off my mask, it's my right to wear it. I asked said admin puke, "Did your staff wear masks during the swine flu scare?" Yes, she says, ok, so what's the problem if I have one on now? The scare is over. It's never over lady, I'm not taking my mask off, get me into see the doc now, I have been here for 2:45 mins, I am getting tired of this DOTFA, I'm tired of seeing people who have been here for 1 hour go before me, make it happen. By this time the slob rent-a-cop puts his hands on me and I give 1 and last warning to him, that is assualt fat boy, remove your hands from me. Or what? You will have a very hard time wiping your ass with your elbows. This actually makes the admin giggle. He tightens his grip and a I punch him in the face with his own hand. End of story.
She gets me into see the doc, he gives me highly addictive meds, which I haven't taken.

The whole system is fucked, over run by people who abuse the sytem, over run by people who have no intention of putting one nickle back into the care they have recieved.

$25.00 for a mucous recovery system ?
that's 3 hours of work for someone !

THE SYSTEM HAS FAILED !

Then we have Sarah Palin who as an IQ that is barely room temperature running here man pleaser about this VA death panel.

SHUT UP BITCH !

Normally I think it would be good for her to continue to say these stu pid things to make sure the closest she get's to the White House is on a tour. But here voice, fuck that voice is puke inducing ! :mad:
 
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