China and US money woes

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Dammit

KOSAR - read the thread.

The first post explains it why I am worried about it.

DOOGY DUH !

I read the first post and it makes no sense.

Like Wayne said, China has never been in a better position with us. They have a knee on our throat. Why in the world would they all of a sudden want to invade Taiwan?

That would change everything for them.
 

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China and Tawian are getting a long better now than I can ever remember--:shrug:

From Chineses paper--

Taiwan frees up financial ties with China
By Kathrin Hille in Taipei

Published: June 26 2008 23:16 | Last updated: June 26 2008 23:16

Taiwan?s government on Thursday announced a clutch of reforms to liberalise financial links with China in hopes of generating a economic boost that would counter a rapid drop in public support.

Since taking office as president last month after a landslide election victory, Ma Ying-jeou has moved quickly to fulfil a campaign pledge to close a deal with China to open regular non-stop passenger flight links and increase tourist flows from the mainland. But his opinion poll ratings have dropped, with observers blaming the slide on unrealistic expectations that the change in government would resolve economic problems overnight.

The cabinet said on Thursday that it would allow Taiwanese brokerages to invest in their Chinese peers; loosen restrictions on mutual funds buying Chinese and Hong Kong stocks; scrap rules that ban foreign institutional investors backed by Chinese capital from investing in the Taiwan market; open mutual listings of exchange-traded funds between Taiwan and Hong Kong; let Hong Kong-listed companies seek a second listing in Taipei; and allow the exchange of Chinese currency in Taiwan.

The promises, in particular the relaxation of restrictions on mutual funds, have the potential to revitalise Taiwan?s market.

?We found that we are the only country in the world that applies such China-specific restrictions and that this works against our goal of becoming an asset management and fund-raising centre,? said Susan Chang, deputy head of the island?s financial regulator.

The Taiwan stock market has tracked Mr Ma?s sliding ratings, retrenching back to levels last seen before his election victory in March. The Taiwan Weighted index closed at 7,811.80 points on Thursday, 19 per cent down from its level on the eve of Mr Ma?s inauguration.

According to an opinion poll published on Thursday by Global Views, a local magazine, 46 per cent of respondents were dissatisfied with the president?s performance and only 38 per cent were satisfied.

But the public has started to realise that further opening the economy to China may not save Taiwan from an increasingly challenging global economic environment. ?The key threat for the Taiwan economy ? as for most neighbours ? is inflation,? said Cheng Cheng-mount, an economist at Citigroup in Taipei.

Citing inflationary pressures, Taiwan?s central bank raised interest rates on Thursday for the 16th straight quarter, by 12.5 basis points to 3.625 per cent. Taiwan?s inflation rate was 3.71 per cent in May. The government aims to contain inflation at 3.3 per cent for the year.
Copyright The Financial Times Limited 2008
 

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Listen kosar. I read everything I post before I post it. I resent having you lump me in with
gardenweasl, DTB, RAYMOND, Sponge and a few others just with a wave of your wand.

Its a insult to me personally and I would not expect a friend to say that to me.

You and me goin round and round.

looks just cause you are taken a beaten in this thread there is no reason to insult me. Be thankful i went back and researched my mistake and admitted it instead of getting all worked up and picture bombing you. Next time you link me with the three stooges there will be hell to pay.:SIB You got that pimp? :mj07:
 
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Sorry, man.

Have your blogger friend come around and we can all discuss it. :SIB
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The blog was from 2005 ..

The guy is probably dead by now.

I just said I talked to him about you to throw you off the hunt some, so you would at least think about his views. and comment.

:SIB
 
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looks just cause you are taken a beaten in this thread there is no reason to insult me. Be thankful i went back and researched my mistake and admitted it instead of getting all worked up and picture bombing you. Next time you link me with the three stooges there will be hell to pay.:SIB You got that pimp? :mj07:
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Yeh at least you admitted your error. Thats a first for you I think.

I wouldnt even be worried about it if this guy did not have alot to lose . I tend to listen to these types of people at first glance.


In the dot.com stock plunge my wife and I lost about 10 grand. And it was me convincing her that stocks were the place to be. yada yada yada.

then BOOM !

I am trying to avoid the BOOM !
 

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China and Tawian are getting a long better now than I can ever remember--:shrug:

From Chineses paper--

Taiwan frees up financial ties with China
By Kathrin Hille in Taipei

Published: June 26 2008 23:16 | Last updated: June 26 2008 23:16

Taiwan?s government on Thursday announced a clutch of reforms to liberalise financial links with China in hopes of generating a economic boost that would counter a rapid drop in public support.

Since taking office as president last month after a landslide election victory, Ma Ying-jeou has moved quickly to fulfil a campaign pledge to close a deal with China to open regular non-stop passenger flight links and increase tourist flows from the mainland. But his opinion poll ratings have dropped, with observers blaming the slide on unrealistic expectations that the change in government would resolve economic problems overnight.

The cabinet said on Thursday that it would allow Taiwanese brokerages to invest in their Chinese peers; loosen restrictions on mutual funds buying Chinese and Hong Kong stocks; scrap rules that ban foreign institutional investors backed by Chinese capital from investing in the Taiwan market; open mutual listings of exchange-traded funds between Taiwan and Hong Kong; let Hong Kong-listed companies seek a second listing in Taipei; and allow the exchange of Chinese currency in Taiwan.

The promises, in particular the relaxation of restrictions on mutual funds, have the potential to revitalise Taiwan?s market.

?We found that we are the only country in the world that applies such China-specific restrictions and that this works against our goal of becoming an asset management and fund-raising centre,? said Susan Chang, deputy head of the island?s financial regulator.

The Taiwan stock market has tracked Mr Ma?s sliding ratings, retrenching back to levels last seen before his election victory in March. The Taiwan Weighted index closed at 7,811.80 points on Thursday, 19 per cent down from its level on the eve of Mr Ma?s inauguration.

According to an opinion poll published on Thursday by Global Views, a local magazine, 46 per cent of respondents were dissatisfied with the president?s performance and only 38 per cent were satisfied.

But the public has started to realise that further opening the economy to China may not save Taiwan from an increasingly challenging global economic environment. ?The key threat for the Taiwan economy ? as for most neighbours ? is inflation,? said Cheng Cheng-mount, an economist at Citigroup in Taipei.

Citing inflationary pressures, Taiwan?s central bank raised interest rates on Thursday for the 16th straight quarter, by 12.5 basis points to 3.625 per cent. Taiwan?s inflation rate was 3.71 per cent in May. The government aims to contain inflation at 3.3 per cent for the year.
Copyright The Financial Times Limited 2008
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well maybe the guy I was talking to is just full of shit and he picked to vent on or something.

:shrug:

OK I feel better now.
 

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The blog was from 2005 ..

The guy is probably dead by now.

I just said I talked to him about you to throw you off the hunt some.

:SIB

I wasn't hunting.

Whatever the case, he's an idiot.

There was a bit of unusually heated tension back in 2005 with China and Taiwan.

Not sure why we're even talkning about this right now though.

It just seems silly.
 

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I wasn't hunting.

Whatever the case, he's an idiot.

There was a bit of unusually heated tension back in 2005 with China and Taiwan.

Not sure why we're even talkning about this right now though.

It just seems silly.
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I take money seriously .

I am still worried that the Banks are so tenuous
as far as mortgage and such.

I am the type of person that worries about alot of things that dont ever happen. It seems I need my worry. If something bad happens in my life and I have not at least thought about the possiblity it makes me crazy.

PS - I changed that hunt part in the other post. I was trying to say something else.
 

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kosar

did you notice that DTB came in this thread but did not comment on Dick Cheneys wealth since he has been in office for 8 years.

100 million wow. The Cliintons make him look pale though even after paying off the 25 million debt they owe.

no sign of gw either

I guess they think its OK.

It just seems wrong they would be allowed to make money like this when they are supposed to be working for the people not to stack their own retirement for generations.
 

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kosar

did you notice that DTB came in this thread but did not comment on Dick Cheneys wealth since he has been in office for 8 years.

100 million wow. The Cliintons make him look pale though even after paying off the 25 million debt they owe.

no sign of gw either

I guess they think its OK.

It just seems wrong they would be allowed to make money like this when they are supposed to be working for the people not to stack their own retirement for generations.

Ahhh, I wouldn't read too much into that.

Wayne respects people that fall into money much more than people who work their ass off from a poverty baseline to be President.

Everybody gets a lot richer after they come upon a high governmental position.

Wayne only cares about Bubba and Barry. :rolleyes:
 

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i am very worried about the economy and our f'd gov spending.... i think that our piss poor gov has set our country up for complete failure. we have allowed china to control our economy by the manufacturing raw goods there instead of here. the complete waste of defense spending in iraq, etc. how many times is the gov going to bail out another failing industry ?

i have busted my a$$ to get my family out of debt for the last 1-1/2. we are close to only having 3 debts - 2 mort (1 rental house)and 1 student loan. this is a major accomplishment.

having said that, what good am i doing if the f'n dollar stays in the $hitter ? i could still end up with the net worth of a guy cashing welfare checks if the debt were called in on my mortage.....
 

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kosar

did you notice that DTB came in this thread but did not comment on Dick Cheneys wealth since he has been in office for 8 years.

100 million wow. The Cliintons make him look pale though even after paying off the 25 million debt they owe.

no sign of gw either

I guess they think its OK.

It just seems wrong they would be allowed to make money like this when they are supposed to be working for the people not to stack their own retirement for generations.

Didn't really read it Scott--but on speculating on Cheney's or anyones else increase in wealth over time period--would like to know if source indicating such is verifiable--and what were factors that contributed to increase or loss. If your notes contain such I'd be happy to go back over--and if correct I'd say charity will be big winner--

Somehow I think a person that give millions to charity and donates all book royalties to charity does not need as much scrutinizing as one that has to count on book royalties to pay off credit card debt.

Would you agree :)
 

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Didn't really read it Scott--but on speculating on Cheney's or anyones else increase in wealth over time period--would like to know if source indicating such is verifiable--and what were factors that contributed to increase or loss. If your notes contain such I'd be happy to go back over--and if correct I'd say charity will be big winner--

Somehow I think a person that give millions to charity and donates all book royalties to charity does not need as much scrutinizing as one that has to count on book royalties to pay off credit card debt.

Would you agree :)
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I think my sources are verifiable and authentic.

I dont think you make 100 million without having a complete and total interest with time and management while your supposed to be working in the white house .

If Cheney does give millions to charity then Boolah Boolah, but its a pittance if he has accumulated 500 million while in office as VP.

Its very frustrating talking to you Wayne.
 

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Somehow I think a person that give millions to charity and donates all book royalties to charity does not need as much scrutinizing as one that has to count on book royalties to pay off credit card debt.

Would you agree


Still waiting for answer:shrug:
 

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Could be people think he may have made that first pot of gold being a crook. I guess that may put them on a watch list. I guy like Chenny that is hated some say even by members of his own family. Draw attention.
And lets remember if he is dong all you say. It's for the tax breaks maybe.
 
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Somehow I think a person that give millions to charity and donates all book royalties to charity does not need as much scrutinizing as one that has to count on book royalties to pay off credit card debt.

Would you agree


Still waiting for answer:shrug:
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the only answer I can give is GOBAMA !
 

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When did China stop being Red China or Communist China? Why are we investing in our sworn mortal enimies?
 
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