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I get prices on yahoo under that symbol but had to use just lngvy to pull it up on brokerage account.

Here is yahoo link


http://finance.yahoo.com/q?d=t&s=LNVGY.PK

here are some stats on it---

Key Statistics Get Key Statistics for:




Data provided by Reuters, except where noted.

VALUATION MEASURES

Market Cap (intraday): 2.26B
Enterprise Value (16-Dec-04)?: 1.90B
Trailing P/E (ttm, intraday): 17.29
Forward P/E (fye 31-Mar-05)?: N/A
PEG Ratio (5 yr expected)?: N/A
Price/Sales (ttm): 0.87
Price/Book (mrq): 4.20
Enterprise Value/Revenue (ttm)?: 0.73
Enterprise Value/EBITDA (ttm)?: 12.84


FINANCIAL HIGHLIGHTS

Fiscal Year
Fiscal Year Ends: 31-Mar
Most Recent Quarter (mrq): 31-Mar-03


Profitability
Profit Margin (ttm): 4.96%
Operating Margin (ttm): 4.81%


Management Effectiveness
Return on Assets (ttm): 15.54%
Return on Equity (ttm): 26.20%


Income Statement
Revenue (ttm): 2.60B
Revenue Per Share (ttm): 6.923
Revenue Growth (lfy)?: N/A
Gross Profit (ttm)?: N/A
EBITDA (ttm): 148.10M
Net Income Avl to Common (ttm): 130.76M
Diluted EPS (ttm): 0.35
Earnings Growth (lfy)?: N/A


Balance Sheet
Total Cash (mrq): 361.03M
Total Cash Per Share (mrq): 0.97
Total Debt (mrq)?: 0
Total Debt/Equity (mrq): 0
Current Ratio (mrq): 2.091
Book Value Per Share (mrq): 1.44


Cash Flow Statement
From Operations (ttm)?: N/A
Free Cashflow (ttm)?: N/A



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Income Statement - Balance Sheet
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TRADING INFORMATION


Stock Price History
Beta: 1.301
52-Week Change: -32.78%
52-Week Change (relative to S&P500): -39.45%
52-Week High (): N/A
52-Week Low (): N/A
50-Day Moving Average: 6.86
200-Day Moving Average: 6.37


Share Statistics
Average Volume (3 month): 11,318
Average Volume (10 day): 0
Shares Outstanding: 373.87M
Float: 160.76M
% Held by Insiders: 57.00%
% Held by Institutions: 0.03%
Shares Short : N/A
Daily Volume : N/A
Short Ratio : N/A
Short % of Float : N/A
Shares Short (prior month): N/A


Dividends & Splits
Annual Dividend: N/A
Dividend Yield: 0.00%
Dividend Date: N/A
Ex-Dividend Date: N/A
Last Split Factor (new per old)?: N/A
Last Split Date:
 
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MSM on a sidenote many of these China stocks I have are followed by .pk but they are much diff than US pink sheets as many have huge trading volumn and all the ones I have pay dividends.
If one wanted to try and hit home run at very small risk the one I have that is only one to go down in value this year has good chance in my view. Denway Moters at about 34 cents a share. While you can't find squat on this stock in US publications it is quite legit and PricewaterhouseCoopers does their auditing so you get pretty reliable view. Here is site I keep up with data on them-----
http://www.irasia.com/listco/hk/denway/index.htm


prices in hong kong $'s

Denway Motors (0203)

Stock Chart
Updated 16:05 HKT / 16 DEC 2004 Prices shown in Hong Kong Dollars
Last 2.75 52 Week High 4.83
Bid 2.75 52 Week Low 2.525
Ask 2.775 P/E Ratio 11.252046
Change -0.025 Yield 0.032727
% Change -0.901 Lot Size 2000
Yesterday Close 2.775 Bid Spread 0.025
Open 2.775 Ask Spread 0.025
High 2.8 Market Capitalization 20,212,484,968
Low 2.725
Volume 17,822,000
 

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well what a pleasent surprise and what a dummy I am. Thought Denway Motors lost half its value in day months ago but after checking today I found out it split 2 for 1 :)

a little on its dividend



Sat Oct 16 02:11:01 2004 Dividend was paid


DENWAY MOTORS LTD has paid dividends

DENWAY MOTORS LTD has paid dividends on 10/15/2004 in the amount of $15.25. If you are enrolled in a DRIP, please reconcile your portfolio with the correct purchase date and price information for the partial shares. Help with DRIPs
 

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Local charts such as yahoo and even if you pull up inside accounts of brokerage houses-- under look up stock they show zilch--will look something like this
DENWAY MOTORS (Other OTC:DENMF.PK) Delayed quote data by Reuters

Last Trade: 0.37
Trade Time: Dec 15
Change: 0.00 (0.00%)
Prev Close: 0.37
Open: N/A
Bid: N/A
Ask: N/A
1y Target Est: N/A

Day's Range: N/A - N/A
52wk Range: N/A - N/A
Volume: 0
Avg Vol (3m): N/A
Market Cap: N/A
P/E (ttm): N/A
EPS (ttm): N/A
Div & Yield: N/A (N/A)

Same with TSINGTAO BREWRY OTC:TSGTY which is one of Asias top brewerys.

Don't know why they don't pull current data???? Maybe Kirk has answer?

anyway was so happy today to find it had splits months ago instead of dropping I bought a few more shares in Ameritrade account.So I think most other brokerage houses would trade it.
-----------my receipt on today


Ameritrade, Inc. Courtesy Fill Notification
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Account number ending with: XXXX
Account owner: WAYNE HOEHN
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For your order to buy 4500 shares of DENMF at 0.40 limit, good for
today:

You bought 4500 shares of DENMF at $0.37 on 12/16/2004.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Please refer to order number XXXXXXXXXX when inquiring about this
order.
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Thank You for choosing Ameritrade for your investment needs.
1005 N. Ameritrade Place
Bellevue, NE 68005
www.ameritrade.com
 

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SO, ARE YOU SAYING I COULD ASK MY BROKER TO BUY AND HE WOULD BE ABLE TO BUY THOSE STOCK DENMF AND TSGTY? WHERE DO YOU GET UPDATES ON THEM?
THANKS
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I wouldn't buy them through broker--cost to much per price of stock--and wouldn't recommend these types of stocks to build portfolio around--just mad money speculation.
It is ironic that yahoo and others not having any charts on these in past and low and behold today for 1st time I've witnessed they have volumn and movement (- 3 cents a share)--strange ????


DENWAY MOTORS LTD (Other OTC:DENMF.PK) Delayed quote data

Last Trade: 0.34
Trade Time: Dec 16
Change: 0.03 (8.11%)
Prev Close: 0.37
Open: N/A
Bid: N/A
Ask: N/A
1y Target Est: N/A

Day's Range: 0.34 - 0.37
52wk Range: N/A - N/A
Volume: 8,500
Avg Vol (3m): N/A
Market Cap: N/A
P/E (ttm): N/A
EPS (ttm): N/A
Div & Yield: N/A (N/A)
 

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Just sold CHU @ 8.55 for small gain of 6.74 %

Disenchanted with this one--lots of players in telecom in China-but deciding factor was dividend had dropped to 1.44%
 

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Bought WMC today (discussed in other thread)at bell for $24.40
with proceeds from sale of CHU.
Ausse company that China buy much of their iron ore ect from.

WMC RESOURCES ADS WI (NYSE:WMC) Delayed quote data

Last Trade: 24.73
Trade Time: 10:09AM ET
Change: 0.79 (3.30%)
Prev Close: 23.94
Open: 24.40
Bid: N/A
Ask: N/A
1y Target Est: 15.00

Day's Range: 24.40 - 24.74
52wk Range: 11.94 - 24.84
Volume: 51,600
Avg Vol (3m): 45,409
Market Cap: 7.25B
P/E (ttm): 6.98
EPS (ttm): 3.54
Div & Yield: 1.29 (5.39%)
 

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buying back PTR @ 62.21 today-- if I had went couple days earlier on Kirks suggestion could have saved $1.20

This was an original stock purchased @ $39.79 but was sold on set stop loss of $50.00 when it had one dip to that figure :(
Error on judgement on my part for setting stop loss that high.
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correction--stock was purchased for $60.66


Date Subject From Remove
04/20/05 Order Executed XXXXXXXX American Express Brokerage Services
Your order to buy 100 of PTR has been executed at $60.66. Reference Number XXXXXXXX.
 
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Been a while since I updated and have note and question.

PTR
bought @ $39.79 current 54.51
Sold @ stop loss of $50 0n 1-12-04
21% gain
bought back 4-20-05 @ 60.66 currently 89.63 up 47.46%

MAPTX A china mutual fund
bought @ 11.42 currently 17.73>up 55.25%

Tsingtao Brewery Co Ltd (TSGTY.PK)
bought 8.60 current 10.60> up 23.26%

Denway Motors Ltd (DENMF.PK)
bought .62 split 2-1
currently .425 up 37.10 %

China Unicom Ltd (CHU)
bought 8.01 -sold 2-14-0 @c 8.55 >6.74 gain

American Standard Company Inc (ASD)
bought 83.65 - 3 for one split> 44.42 up 59.33 %


Cheung Kong Infrastructure Holdings Ltd (CKISF.PK)
bought 2.12 current 3.00>up 41.45%

lngvy.pk @ 6.15 a share bought 10-13-04 >7.00 up 13.82%

WMC RESOURCES ADS WI (NYSE:WMC)
bought 3-7-05 @ 24.73 todays price ???

note lngvy.pk has earnings out today and all these little (.pk) stocks pay dividends which are not included.

Question maybe Kirk can help with WMC was bought and not had any adjustment on stock value since June--any help Kirk?
 

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WMC was bought out for cash by BHP, by the way 1 WMC ADR=4 ordinary shares.

the ADR stopped trading due to the takeover June 29, 2005. you should be getting either cash or BHP ADRs.

these items are still getting wrapped up, and should be closed soon would think this month. however you may want to phone your broker (even a discount), should be able to tell you cash or stock.

would want to know the exact timeline, you may also want to contact bhp if your broker is no help.

thanks
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the vote was done in June according to reports.
on August 2, BHP

NEWS RELEASE


RELEASE TIME IMMEDIATE
DATE 2 August 2005
NUMBER 32/05


BHP BILLITON ANNOUNCES 100 PERCENT OWNERSHIP OF WMC RESOURCES


BHP Billiton announces that it has completed today the process of compulsorily
acquiring all of the shares of WMC Resources Ltd in which it did not have a
relevant interest. BHP Billiton now owns 100 percent of WMC Resources Ltd.
shares.



BHP reached 90% so you should be soon see cash in your account in exchange for the shares. Aug 8 statement, should happen soon.

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China stocks6 month update
PTR
bought @ $39.79 current 54.51
Sold @ stop loss of $50 0n 1-12-04
21% gain
bought back 4-20-05 @ 60.66 currently 99.25 up 62.63%

MAPTX A china mutual fund
bought @ 11.42 currently 20.28>up 77.58%

Tsingtao Brewery Co Ltd (TSGTY.PK)
bought 8.60 current 13.15> up 52.91%

Denway Motors Ltd (DENMF.PK)
bought .62 split 2-1
currently .425 up 37.10 %

China Unicom Ltd (CHU)
bought 8.01 -sold 2-14-0 @c 8.55 >6.74 gain

American Standard Company Inc (ASD)
bought 83.65 - 3 for one split> 40.26 up 44.40 %

Cheung Kong Infrastructure Holdings Ltd (CKISF.PK)
bought 2.12 current 3.05>up 43.87%

lngvy.pk @ 6.15 a share bought 10-13-04 >8.52 up 38.54%

WMC RESOURCES ADS WI (NYSE:WMC)
bought 3-7-05 @ 24.73 Was bought out soon after per above--made a little but can't remember how much and too lazy to look back and see which account and how much.

Note all of these except mutual funds pay dividents and they are not included.

a possible point of interest which I should get dummy of month award for.
Denway Motors Ltd (DENMF.PK) is very low price stock and pays dividends. This stock continually flucuates about 8 cents back and forth. I thought I might be smart enough to venture into day trading (month trading would be more appropriate) on stock I had followed for so long. So bought several shares through my American Express brokerage account (now called Ameriprise)
While trades in this account -my SEP-are generally free because of low volumn of trades and 3 free a month--I was surprised to see I was charged $500 plus for buying.THEN I find out they charge .03 cents a share extra for all shares over a 1000.Then I try to sell in 999 share blocks when price warrants and trades don't go through-find out that sales are in 1000 share blocks which made little sense to me-I call them (1st time in years) and explain the trap they have me in--and they agree to remove the .03 cents but I have to phone and can't do it online.

I am curious if other brokerage houses do this?
 

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DTB great returns, if I ever list 8 stocks there is always one that seems to blow up. PTR has done well; find that when I filled up at the gas pumps complained less than ussual, just thought of the returns of the oil companies.

$500 for commissions seems a large amount to pay, believe if you shop around could have got .01 or .005. one of the main disadvantages with day trading though is the commish.

one time thought found a pattern on a stock and made a quick 8% did this twice, the downside was that after sold it the second time went up 40%.

thanks
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Thanks Kirk--I'm not smart enough or on top of things enough to be day trader but just thought I'* try one I knew a little about.
April 15th(SEP contribution) sneaking up --keep a lookout for a few nuggets for me. :)
Will head back to China in Aug or Sept and sniff around--still looking for public company to clean up their water. Would be quite lucrative to my thinking--their have VERY serious prob with water polution.
 
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Check out:

GMDTF.PK


I boought @ .25 about a month ago. Solid people turned me on to it- some serious $$$$ behind this one.
 

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This is up to .35 from .25.nice 40% bang. A very large, respected University has 5% of their endowment money in this stock.

side note:

take a look @ KMG May 100 call options..............
(I'm buying)
 
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