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WASHINGTON -- Rep. Jack Kingston (R-Ga.) wants kids to learn early in life that there's no such thing as a free lunch. To make sure they absorb that lesson, he's proposing that low-income children do some manual labor in exchange for their subsidized meals.

On Saturday, Kingston, who is vying to be his party's nominee in Georgia's Senate race next year, spoke at a meeting of the Jackson County Republican Party about the federal school lunch program.

Under that program, children from families with incomes at or below 130 percent of the poverty line are eligible for free meals. Students from families with incomes between 130 percent and 185 percent of the poverty level can receive lunches at reduced prices.

But on Saturday, Kingston came out against free lunches, saying that children should have to pay at least a nominal amount or do some work like sweeping cafeteria floors.

"But one of the things I?ve talked to the secretary of agriculture about: Why don?t you have the kids pay a dime, pay a nickel to instill in them that there is, in fact, no such thing as a free lunch? Or maybe sweep the floor of the cafeteria -- and yes, I understand that that would be an administrative problem, and I understand that it would probably lose you money. But think what we would gain as a society in getting people -- getting the myth out of their head that there is such a thing as a free lunch," he said.

Watch Kingston's remarks in the video above.

Besides the "administrative problem," Kingston's plan could create significant embarrassment for low-income children, who would be sweeping cafeteria floors while their wealthier peers did normal kid activities. And while the low-income children would supposedly be learning the lesson of hard work, their wealthier peers would simply be getting a free lunch from their parents.


Kingston's office did not return a request for additional comment.

In November 2011, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) received a significant amount of criticism for proposing a similar idea: firing school janitors at schools in low-income neighborhoods and having kids clean the school instead.

"You say to somebody, you shouldn't go to work before you're what, 14, 16 years of age, fine. You're totally poor. You're in a school that is failing with a teacher that is failing. I've tried for years to have a very simple model," Gingrich said. "Most of these schools ought to get rid of the unionized janitors, have one master janitor and pay local students to take care of the school. The kids would actually do work, they would have cash, they would have pride in the schools, they'd begin the process of rising."

Kingston is running against seven other Republicans in the 2014 primary to replace retiring Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.). The winner is expected to face Michelle Nunn, the leading contender on the Democratic side, in the general election.
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Meanwhile a Republican kid gets off with probation for affluency after he killed 4 people when he
was driving drunk.


Yeh this seems like the right thing to do.

Warped but right.

And the GOP wonders why they cant get poor peoples votes.

the answer is never.
 

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So this jerk off wants kids to work for their lunch. Starting when, age six....there are child labor laws, does he want to suspend them?

At the same time he wants to get elected to Congress where he'll get six months of paid vacation, a free staff, free travel, free postage, free lunches and $165k for a x900 hour work year.

How can anyone not despise these vile tea baggers?

WASHINGTON -- Rep. Jack Kingston (R-Ga.) wants kids to learn early in life that there's no such thing as a free lunch. To make sure they absorb that lesson, he's proposing that low-income children do some manual labor in exchange for their subsidized meals.

On Saturday, Kingston, who is vying to be his party's nominee in Georgia's Senate race next year, spoke at a meeting of the Jackson County Republican Party about the federal school lunch program.

Under that program, children from families with incomes at or below 130 percent of the poverty line are eligible for free meals. Students from families with incomes between 130 percent and 185 percent of the poverty level can receive lunches at reduced prices.

But on Saturday, Kingston came out against free lunches, saying that children should have to pay at least a nominal amount or do some work like sweeping cafeteria floors.

"But one of the things I?ve talked to the secretary of agriculture about: Why don?t you have the kids pay a dime, pay a nickel to instill in them that there is, in fact, no such thing as a free lunch? Or maybe sweep the floor of the cafeteria -- and yes, I understand that that would be an administrative problem, and I understand that it would probably lose you money. But think what we would gain as a society in getting people -- getting the myth out of their head that there is such a thing as a free lunch," he said.

Watch Kingston's remarks in the video above.

Besides the "administrative problem," Kingston's plan could create significant embarrassment for low-income children, who would be sweeping cafeteria floors while their wealthier peers did normal kid activities. And while the low-income children would supposedly be learning the lesson of hard work, their wealthier peers would simply be getting a free lunch from their parents.


Kingston's office did not return a request for additional comment.

In November 2011, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) received a significant amount of criticism for proposing a similar idea: firing school janitors at schools in low-income neighborhoods and having kids clean the school instead.

"You say to somebody, you shouldn't go to work before you're what, 14, 16 years of age, fine. You're totally poor. You're in a school that is failing with a teacher that is failing. I've tried for years to have a very simple model," Gingrich said. "Most of these schools ought to get rid of the unionized janitors, have one master janitor and pay local students to take care of the school. The kids would actually do work, they would have cash, they would have pride in the schools, they'd begin the process of rising."

Kingston is running against seven other Republicans in the 2014 primary to replace retiring Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.). The winner is expected to face Michelle Nunn, the leading contender on the Democratic side, in the general election.
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Meanwhile a Republican kid gets off with probation for affluency after he killed 4 people when he
was driving drunk.


Yeh this seems like the right thing to do.

Warped but right.

And the GOP wonders why they cant get poor peoples votes.

the answer is never.
 

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I thought the tea bagged moniker ended months ago

Is their proof the the turd, kid who got off the charge of
Mass Murder was a republican ?

Aren't most of the shit bricks who play the knockout game
Dems?
 

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I thought the tea bagged moniker ended months ago

Is their proof the the turd, kid who got off the charge of
Mass Murder was a republican ?

Aren't most of the shit bricks who play the knockout game
Dems?

This turd's thought process marks him as a 'baggger. Did you ever hear this kind of crap from a thinking Republican?

What kid are you talking about?

What's the knockout game?
 

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Duff,
Before reading this, put in a helmet and
Padded gloves to avoid injuring yourself

The Texas teenager who was spared a prison sentence after a psychologist called him a product of "affluenza" could still serve time in jail if prosecutors have their way.

http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=21...tsrc=apple&pcarrier=Verizon&pmcc=310&pmnc=038

Oh, now I know what you're talking about. I hope the police released him after spending a night in a cell with Mike Tyson, and Bubba from Deliverance.
 

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States Cite Surge in Obamacare Sign-Ups Ahead of First Deadline




Dec 19, 2013

States running their own Obamacare insurance exchanges are reporting a significant surge in sign-ups just four days before the first major enrollment deadline.

The increase has ranged from 30 percent to 40 percent in the past few weeks, according to state officials who briefed reporters Wednesday. Monday is the last day to sign up for a plan that will guarantee health coverage effective Jan. 1.

California, which has one of the most successful programs, averaged 15,000 enrollments a day last week, up from an average 7,000 a day the week before, state officials said. In all of November, 80,000 Californians picked a plan; in the first week of December, 50,000 signed up.

RELATED: Obamacare Countdown ? One Week to First Major Enrollment Deadline

?We are all still in the first inning of a nine-inning game,? Covered California executive director Peter Lee said. ?Friends are telling friends; family are telling family. ? We are quite confident that as we go into the next half of enrollment that we will build momentum.?

In Kentucky, enrollments are up 40 percent since Thanksgiving, straining the state?s exchange and forcing administrators to hire dozens of extra call-center workers and application processors. ?We are seeing about 3,000 people a day approved for Medicaid or a [qualified health plan],? Kentucky Health Benefit Exchange executive director Carrie Banahan said. ?We started out a few weeks ago at about a thousand per day.?

More than 92,000 people have gotten coverage so far.

In New York, phones at marketplace call centers are ringing off the hook, averaging between 1,200 to 1,500 calls per hour, officials say. Roughly 4,500 people are enrolling in coverage each day, state Department of Health counsel Lisa Sbrana said.

In the past week alone, they?ve seen a 34 percent increase in people signing up.

?We?re really happy,? Sbrana said. ?We?re seeing a good mix of enrollees across age groups.?

The uptick in demand has also been seen in Connecticut, where 47,000 people have enrolled through the exchange since October and they?re now adding an average 1,400 people a day.

?One area things are not going as well for us is the call center,? Access Health Connecticut CEO Kevin Counihan said. ?We didn?t staff up fast enough for the calls? before the Dec. 23 deadline.
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neo cons are so pissed that the plan is working and getting better

we cant get lobby money anymore from large Ins companys.....wwwwwwwwwwaaaaaa

we cant withhold ins from ppl with pre-existing

costs will come down but no money in our pockets anymore.......

geeezzzz Rush L has stopped talking about healthcare now

take house in 2014 and get some shit done for America
 

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Hey, Scott:

I guess I should wait to buy auto insurance until I get in a wreck and kill someone?

I will also wait until my house is on fire until I buy coverage for my home?

Here's a definition for INSURANCE:

a contract providing protection against a possible eventuality.


If you are railing against Neo Con thinking, you must be a complete Progressive Lib Fucktard.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-20/obama-caves-delays-obamacare-momentum-fizzles-customer-pool-smaller-and-sicker

Is the Obamacare in this link the same Obamacare that you said is signing up people in droves? If so, with people flocking to get coverage, why is it being delayed? If Obamacare is SO FUCKING GREAT, why is the President constantly trying to sell it to the American people and hiring the Baltimore Ravens and Adam Levine and other celebrities to pitch it?

When Apple introduced the iPhone or the iPad or whatever, did they have to coerce people to go out and buy it or did the gadgets that Apple produces sell themselves because they worked and people liked them?

JUST FUCKING WONDERING BECAUSE THE REALITY YOU FUCKING LIVE IN IS SURE DIFFERENT THAN THE ONE I LIVE IN.
 
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Hey, Scott:

I guess I should wait to buy auto insurance until I get in a wreck and kill someone?

I will also wait until my house is on fire until I buy coverage for my home?

Here's a definition for INSURANCE:

a contract providing protection against a possible eventuality.


If you are railing against Neo Con thinking, you must be a complete Progressive Lib Fucktard.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-20/obama-caves-delays-obamacare-momentum-fizzles-customer-pool-smaller-and-sicker

Is the Obamacare in this link the same Obamacare that you said is signing up people in droves? If so, with people flocking to get coverage, why is it being delayed? If Obamacare is SO FUCKING GREAT, why is the President constantly trying to sell it to the American people and hiring the Baltimore Ravens and Adam Levine and other celebrities to pitch it?

When Apple introduced the iPhone or the iPad or whatever, did they have to coerce people to go out and buy it or did the gadgets that Apple produces sell themselves because they worked and people liked them?

JUST FUCKING WONDERING BECAUSE THE REALITY YOU FUCKING LIVE IN IS SURE DIFFERENT THAN THE ONE I LIVE IN.

Why did you ignore what the thread was originally about? Obamacare is going to be good, give it some time, it's just like around here when all the bars and restraunts went smokeless, a lot of hot air and pissed off people but now it's fine. The world isn't coming to an end like the neocons want people to believe.
 

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Is the Obamacare in this link the same Obamacare that you said is signing up people in droves? If so, with people flocking to get coverage, why is it being delayed? If Obamacare is SO FUCKING GREAT, why is the President constantly trying to sell it to the American people and hiring the Baltimore Ravens and Adam Levine and other celebrities to pitch it?

When Apple introduced the iPhone or the iPad or whatever, did they have to coerce people to go out and buy it or did the gadgets that Apple produces sell themselves because they worked and people liked them?

JUST FUCKING WONDERING BECAUSE THE REALITY YOU FUCKING LIVE IN IS SURE DIFFERENT THAN THE ONE I LIVE IN.[/QUOTE]

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Ok rush
Tow the line with the teabaggers:mj07:
 

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Hey, Scott:

I guess I should wait to buy auto insurance until I get in a wreck and kill someone?

I will also wait until my house is on fire until I buy coverage for my home?

Here's a definition for INSURANCE:

a contract providing protection against a possible eventuality.


If you are railing against Neo Con thinking, you must be a complete Progressive Lib Fucktard.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-20/obama-caves-delays-obamacare-momentum-fizzles-customer-pool-smaller-and-sicker

Is the Obamacare in this link the same Obamacare that you said is signing up people in droves? If so, with people flocking to get coverage, why is it being delayed? If Obamacare is SO FUCKING GREAT, why is the President constantly trying to sell it to the American people and hiring the Baltimore Ravens and Adam Levine and other celebrities to pitch it?

When Apple introduced the iPhone or the iPad or whatever, did they have to coerce people to go out and buy it or did the gadgets that Apple produces sell themselves because they worked and people liked them?

JUST FUCKING WONDERING BECAUSE THE REALITY YOU FUCKING LIVE IN IS SURE DIFFERENT THAN THE ONE I LIVE IN.

You bet your ass Apple used marketing to increase sales of iPhone. I see Apple adds all the fucking time. Government's use advertising all the time too. Just this morning I saw an add on the side of a bus the state of California reminding parents to get shots for their newborns. Well if shots are so good, why would they need a billboard?

Ok, sure it frustrates me a lot to see the government partake in social engineering, but I equally despise social programs that are incomplete and setup to fail. I mean if you are going to do something, in for a penny in for a pound.
I am not a fan of Obamacare or socialized medicine, but if we are going to do it (and we are), we might as well do it right (which we didn't, but that's another story). So yeah, marketing and getting the word out is part of that. I just think it's silly to let THAT part bother you. What did you expect, them to pass the bill and then never say anything about it ever again? :shrug:
 

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Really, Scott - that is all you got?

I don't listen to Rush - I WORK FOR A LIVING.....but you really seem to know what he has to say......?


And by the way, the President does not have the power to CHANGE LAWS - I guess that is just a little tidbit everyone keeps forgetting as this administration has now CHANGED OR AMENDED OBAMACARE FOURTEEN TIMES WITHOUT CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL.


ImFelhkr - sure - every business markets - government is NOT a business.

Apple products flew off the shelves because of word - of mouth and people LIKING the product and recommending it to others.

IF - and it is a BIG IF - Obamacare was doing what it had been promised to do - make it cheaper and easier to get insurance - then people would be flocking to it.
 

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a BIG IF - Obamacare was doing what it had been promised to do - make it cheaper and easier to get insurance - then people would be flocking to it.

it will and it will

so hold on to your shorts .....


geezzz neo cons hate free thinking


PS - I am not a progressive Lib

I was identified by kosar as a centrist and that is what I am
 

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Really, Scott - that is all you got?

I don't listen to Rush - I WORK FOR A LIVING.....but you really seem to know what he has to say......?
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I am a contractor so I drive around a lot and switch a lot of channels. I do toon in to that fuck Rush


I have tried to call in but when they ask me what I want to talk about , I say I just want to make a few things clear to that fat fucking touchhole

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'When You Make This Kind Of Money, You Don't Eat Much'
Bernadette Feazell, 65, works at a pawn shop in Austin, Texas. She's worked there four years and makes $8 an hour, plus commission.

I work at Mustang Jewelry and Pawn. I've been there four years. I love my job.

What can I tell you? I'm from Texas, I'm kind of a tomboy, and I get to sell compressors and cement machines, and I get to do it in Spanish and English. We stay busy, as you can imagine, in a bad economy. Especially now.

I earn $8 an hour, and I get a commission. There are no benefits. The commission is 6 percent. It all depends on the month. Christmas is good. This month is good. I can make $260 extra a month on the commission, but I don't set the world on fire.

I get about five hours a day. And that's a pretty good day for an old girl. I'm 65. I draw $400 a month [in Social Security]. I have Medicare -- I just got it.

I had no insurance before Medicare. I've been uninsurable for years. I had something cancerous, and I wasn't insurable until now. I'm a newbie [to Medicare]. I'm not an old hand at it yet. I just got the card. I don't know how to use it.

Tomorrow I'm going to go have my teeth fixed in Mexico. One of the guys at work, a dentist told him it would be $3,000 to remove his teeth because they're so bad. Yes, the economy is really bad on teeth. He went to Mexico and they removed the teeth for $200. That's a big difference. It's four hours by Greyhound to Mexico, but people do it.

If you're a salesperson, you can't talk to people and not have nice teeth. So I've saved up, and my son's going to help me. I need a cavity filled. My last Mexican filling fell out, from two years ago. I went down to Nuevo Laredo. It's very violent, with a lot of decapitations.

No one is going to take care of you for free here. A filling would be a few hundred bucks. I've gone down to Mexico before for this. This will be my third time. I speak Spanish.

I buy my Prozac over the line in Mexico, too. Without anti-depressants, I don't think -- it would take a toll on me. It suppresses the appetite. And when you make this kind of money, you don't eat much. There are times when I would want a sandwich or a piece of chicken I can't afford. I sacrifice for my dogs. They get Iams. I have three small dogs.

My adjusted gross income for last year was $10,200. I was making $8 an hour all year. I'm at the cusp -- I make too much to get food stamps. Everything is expensive. My rent is $500 a month, and I have a roommate.

There's nothing left at the end of the month. If I've made it to the end of the month, I'm happy.

People in poverty can still be happy. A lot of rich people seem miserable.

People tend to think, you work for minimum wage, that's all you're worth. I think there's great honor in working. I work hard. And frankly, it's not because I think I'm worth $9.

I quit for a while. I had another job. I made $12 an hour working for a lawyer. There were no benefits, and the man made everyone so miserable. It was a Social Security Disability sweatshop. But the people were nice.

If you think a pawn shop doesn't know the pulse of the economy ... well, we know first. People come in now and try to sell us a blender for $5 because they need gas. We're privately owned. We try to help them. We'll buy their blender or their pot, stuff that we probably shouldn't. That's why people like us. You find odd things where we work.

One of first things in this economy that went down was the nail places. They're gone. Then the hair places went. You cut your own. I cut my own hair. I've had the same crooked bangs my whole life. My forehead, you can park a plane on.

We buy stuff at the Goodwill, that's where we shop. You get shoes there. There's a Goodwill outlet store, which is heaven. It's $1.38 a pound for clothes. Half of Mexico is there, I assure you. It's huge.

I live in the city, six minutes from where I work. If I had to drive across town, I couldn't do it. I have a 1996 car that's paid for, and I have insurance. It's about $500 a year. It gets to where you're like, how much more can I trim?

In Texas, oh my god, you would die without the car. You need the car to get to work. I probably could do it on the bus, but not every day.

I'm single. If times get bad enough I could always get married. I wanted to marry a man who had group insurance, but now I have Medicare.

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Rafeal Cruz came out and retorted


that bitch should get another job she is making too much money and a drain on the rest of us rich
neo cons

:0074:0074
 

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People on Food Stamps --

Republicans spent the summer claiming food stamp recipients are lazy surfers who use their benefits for sushi and lobster.


yeh while they take their 16 weeks vacation and try to think of more ways they can make millions from the American ppl
 

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Hey, Scott:

I guess I should wait to buy auto insurance until I get in a wreck and kill someone?

I will also wait until my house is on fire until I buy coverage for my home?

Here's a definition for INSURANCE:

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The robust laughs of Hudgen?s audience when he compared pre-existing condition coverage to an ex post facto request for auto insurance collision coverage after a motorist causes a wreck is about as disgusting as the stupid analogy itself.

Since he?s an insurance regulator and all, you?d think Hudgens might be aware that the issue here is not some fresh request for coverage after a condition is incurred, but withdrawals of existing coverage by insurers when the insured gets sick, or the refusal to issue a policy when someone is forced into the individual market by, say, the loss of a job or an employer cancelling employee health benefits. Beyond that, of course, comparing getting sick to causing a car wreck is unfathomably dumb and immoral.

Most Republicans dance around the pre-existing condition issue, either pretending to favor non-discrimination even as they oppose the ACA provision outlawing it and favor ?interstate sales? that would negate state regulations restricting discrimination. Often they rely on the ragged expedient of state-run ?high-risk pools? that create a ghetto of crappy and expensive policies for those denied insurance in the market-place. But leave it to a Georgia Republican to come right out and label sick people denied health insurance as malefactors seeking to defraud poor innocent insurance companies.


ssd - Your just another talking head following the party line. Too bad u cant think for yourself

you would see thru some of the hate and arrogance of the tea baggers
 

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most neo cons are just parrots


ssd - u are parrot to the bone thru and thru
 

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You know I have spoke to many friends recently all in the 30 - 45 age group and many of them have not been to the website and are just going by what they are hearing. My buddy was telling me about his work package, holy shit, his work is trying to screw him over. Can't believe everything you hear. I signed up, I'm not upset about it.
 
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Most Americans don't care about Santa's race, according to a new HuffPost/YouGov poll, but nearly half of the Republicans surveyed think Santa should be portrayed as white.

Fox News host Megyn Kelly set off the debate last week, responding to an article in Slate by reassuring viewers that "Santa just is white." But according to the new poll, 60 percent of Americans don't think it matters how Santa's race is portrayed, while 31 percent think that Santa should be white. Another 4 percent said they would prefer that Santa be some other race.

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Santa aint real so who the fuck cares

only neo cons


its beginning to come clear now
 
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