Wonder if they just couldn't pull the trigger on Luck and had to go. Tough when u are close to the best quarterback in football and possible the history of Football.
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Buccaneers fire head coach Raheem Morris
AP Sports 33 minutes ago
TAMPA, Fla. (AP)?The Tampa Bay Buccaneers are dumping coach Raheem Morris, although not necessarily their determination to win with one of the NFL?s youngest teams.
Morris was fired Monday after three seasons that raised questions about ownership?s commitment to winning because the club has resisted spending large amounts of money in free agency.
A 45-24 loss to the Atlanta Falcons in Sunday?s season finale was the 10th straight following a 4-2 start. The skid was the franchise?s longest within one season since 1977, when the Bucs lost 12 in a row to extend the longest losing streak in league history to 26 consecutive games over two years.
Tampa Bay Buccaneers coach Raheem Morris watches play against the Atlanta Falcons during the first half of an NFL football game Sunday, Jan. 1, 2012, in Atlanta.
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Morris went 17-31, including a 10-6 mark in 2010, when the Bucs narrowly missed the playoffs. His entire staff of assistants was dismissed, too.
?In these things it is not just one thing, but I will point to just the progress of the team and where we?re at,? Bucs co-chairman Joel Glazer said at a news conference. ?Again, you can?t point to one thing or another. You look at totality of the situation when making your decision.?
The 35-year-old Morris was hired in January 2009, replacing Jon Gruden after Tampa Bay lost the final four games of 2008 to miss the playoffs following a 9-3 start.
This year?s collapse followed a promising start that included wins over NFC South rivals New Orleans and Atlanta, which are both headed to the playoffs.
Morris was hired at the same time that the Glazer family, which owns the team, promoted Mark Dominik to general manager. The GM?s job appears to be safe, although questions persist about whether he provided the type of talent necessary to be successful.
?I think that?s a fair question, and I do take responsibility for what happened on this football team as well. Obviously as a general manager, my job is to help acquire talent, provide talent, draft players and get us to a competitive level,? Dominik said.
Morris began his stint as the league?s youngest coach with a seven-game losing streak. It ended with a skid that rivaled some of the worst stretches in franchise history, in part because it came only a year after it looked as though the plan to build with young players was on track.
?Obviously we all felt like at 10-6 ? the team was going in the right direction,? Dominik said. ?Certainly during the season, it?s difficult to acquire talent when you have injuries. A coach is never supposed to stand up here and talk about the injuries he has or else he looks soft and weak and he can?t handle it. We did have some injuries this year. It was difficult. But at the same point, I thought we had some good players here that are still developing. I still feel like we have some players that will continue to grow.?
With young quarterback Josh Freeman showing great promise in his first full season as a starter, Tampa Bay won 10 games in 2010 and barely missed the playoffs. Morris entered training camp following the NFL lockout declaring he had a ?youngry? team that was confident and talented enough to compete with the more experienced Saints and Falcons for a division title.
The team?s strong start included wins at home over Atlanta and New Orleans that lent credence to the coach?s assertion that a 48-3 road loss to San Francisco was simply a bad day at the office, not a sign that the Bucs were not nearly as good as their record suggested.
While injuries did contribute to the season-ending slide, so did inconsistent play?starting with Freeman. He threw for 16 touchdowns vs. 22 interceptions after tossing 25 TD passes and being intercepted just six times in 2010. The Bucs turned the ball over a league-leading 40 times compared to 19 last season.
The defense, which has a proud tradition, sank to unheard of lows in Tampa Bay. In addition to surrendering a franchise-record and league-high 494 points, the Bucs lost eight games by double-digit margins and allowed 31 points or more seven times during the season-ending skid.
With Morris serving as his own defensive coordinator, he shouldered much of the blame for the steady decline.
Still, last week the coach laid out his argument for keeping the job.
The Bucs had the youngest team in the NFL this season, with 30 players on the 53-man roster in their first, second or third years in the league.
In addition, there are 21 players on the roster, including leading rusher LeGarrette Blount and third-leading receiver Preston Parker, who entered the NFL as undrafted free agents.
Among the veterans who didn?t return in 2011 were middle linebacker Barrett Ruud and running back Cadillac Williams, who left via free agency. Rookie Mason Foster stepped into Ruud?s spot and took on play-calling responsibilities, and the loss of Williams left Freeman without a proven third-down back once veteran Earnest Graham was lost for the season to injury.
?We made a collective agreement to go young when we took over this program. That?s something we wanted to do,? Morris said at the time. ?I believe in my guys. I believe in the system. I believe in the program. I believe in what we do. We want to build this thing young, and want to develop a team that goes out and wins, and wins consistently.?
Glazer said there?s no timetable for naming a successor.
?We just want to find the right person,? he said, adding that his family also remains committed to building a roster primarily through the draft.
?We will be happy to spend in free agency, but we have got to build a team,? Glazer said. ?We have to draft well and build a foundation for this team. But we?re open-minded; whatever we have to do to win.
AP Sports 33 minutes ago
TAMPA, Fla. (AP)?The Tampa Bay Buccaneers are dumping coach Raheem Morris, although not necessarily their determination to win with one of the NFL?s youngest teams.
Morris was fired Monday after three seasons that raised questions about ownership?s commitment to winning because the club has resisted spending large amounts of money in free agency.
A 45-24 loss to the Atlanta Falcons in Sunday?s season finale was the 10th straight following a 4-2 start. The skid was the franchise?s longest within one season since 1977, when the Bucs lost 12 in a row to extend the longest losing streak in league history to 26 consecutive games over two years.
Tampa Bay Buccaneers coach Raheem Morris watches play against the Atlanta Falcons during the first half of an NFL football game Sunday, Jan. 1, 2012, in Atlanta.
Tampa Bay Buccaneers coach Rah?
AP - Jan 1, 5:53 pm EST
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Morris went 17-31, including a 10-6 mark in 2010, when the Bucs narrowly missed the playoffs. His entire staff of assistants was dismissed, too.
?In these things it is not just one thing, but I will point to just the progress of the team and where we?re at,? Bucs co-chairman Joel Glazer said at a news conference. ?Again, you can?t point to one thing or another. You look at totality of the situation when making your decision.?
The 35-year-old Morris was hired in January 2009, replacing Jon Gruden after Tampa Bay lost the final four games of 2008 to miss the playoffs following a 9-3 start.
This year?s collapse followed a promising start that included wins over NFC South rivals New Orleans and Atlanta, which are both headed to the playoffs.
Morris was hired at the same time that the Glazer family, which owns the team, promoted Mark Dominik to general manager. The GM?s job appears to be safe, although questions persist about whether he provided the type of talent necessary to be successful.
?I think that?s a fair question, and I do take responsibility for what happened on this football team as well. Obviously as a general manager, my job is to help acquire talent, provide talent, draft players and get us to a competitive level,? Dominik said.
Morris began his stint as the league?s youngest coach with a seven-game losing streak. It ended with a skid that rivaled some of the worst stretches in franchise history, in part because it came only a year after it looked as though the plan to build with young players was on track.
?Obviously we all felt like at 10-6 ? the team was going in the right direction,? Dominik said. ?Certainly during the season, it?s difficult to acquire talent when you have injuries. A coach is never supposed to stand up here and talk about the injuries he has or else he looks soft and weak and he can?t handle it. We did have some injuries this year. It was difficult. But at the same point, I thought we had some good players here that are still developing. I still feel like we have some players that will continue to grow.?
With young quarterback Josh Freeman showing great promise in his first full season as a starter, Tampa Bay won 10 games in 2010 and barely missed the playoffs. Morris entered training camp following the NFL lockout declaring he had a ?youngry? team that was confident and talented enough to compete with the more experienced Saints and Falcons for a division title.
The team?s strong start included wins at home over Atlanta and New Orleans that lent credence to the coach?s assertion that a 48-3 road loss to San Francisco was simply a bad day at the office, not a sign that the Bucs were not nearly as good as their record suggested.
While injuries did contribute to the season-ending slide, so did inconsistent play?starting with Freeman. He threw for 16 touchdowns vs. 22 interceptions after tossing 25 TD passes and being intercepted just six times in 2010. The Bucs turned the ball over a league-leading 40 times compared to 19 last season.
The defense, which has a proud tradition, sank to unheard of lows in Tampa Bay. In addition to surrendering a franchise-record and league-high 494 points, the Bucs lost eight games by double-digit margins and allowed 31 points or more seven times during the season-ending skid.
With Morris serving as his own defensive coordinator, he shouldered much of the blame for the steady decline.
Still, last week the coach laid out his argument for keeping the job.
The Bucs had the youngest team in the NFL this season, with 30 players on the 53-man roster in their first, second or third years in the league.
In addition, there are 21 players on the roster, including leading rusher LeGarrette Blount and third-leading receiver Preston Parker, who entered the NFL as undrafted free agents.
Among the veterans who didn?t return in 2011 were middle linebacker Barrett Ruud and running back Cadillac Williams, who left via free agency. Rookie Mason Foster stepped into Ruud?s spot and took on play-calling responsibilities, and the loss of Williams left Freeman without a proven third-down back once veteran Earnest Graham was lost for the season to injury.
?We made a collective agreement to go young when we took over this program. That?s something we wanted to do,? Morris said at the time. ?I believe in my guys. I believe in the system. I believe in the program. I believe in what we do. We want to build this thing young, and want to develop a team that goes out and wins, and wins consistently.?
Glazer said there?s no timetable for naming a successor.
?We just want to find the right person,? he said, adding that his family also remains committed to building a roster primarily through the draft.
?We will be happy to spend in free agency, but we have got to build a team,? Glazer said. ?We have to draft well and build a foundation for this team. But we?re open-minded; whatever we have to do to win.
Rams fire coach, GM after another dismal year
30 minutes ago
ST. LOUIS (AP)?The St. Louis Rams fired coach Steve Spagnuolo and general manager Billy Devaney on Monday, a day after the team wrapped up a 2-14 season that matched the worst record in the National Football League.
The Rams made a six-win improvement last season and played for the NFC West title in the finale, but were just 10-38 overall in three seasons with Spagnuolo and Devaney calling the shots.
Devaney had joined the front office a year earlier in 2008; the Rams were 12-52 in his four years as GM. He said in a statement Monday that while the record was disappointing, ?I wouldn?t trade that time for anything.?
Owner Stan Kroenke fired both men with one year remaining on their contracts, and with fan interest dwindling. The Edward Jones Dome in St. Louis was little more than half full in the later part of the season.
?No one individual is to blame for this disappointing season and we all must hold ourselves accountable,? Kroenke said in a statement. ?However, we believe it?s in the best interest of the St. Louis Rams to make these changes as we continue our quest to build a team that consistently competes for playoffs and championships.?
Kevin Demoff, vice president and chief operating officer, said the search for both positions should be concluded in the next few weeks and that it didn?t necessarily matter which position was filed first.
Names of potential replacements for Spagnuolo began to surface weeks ago as the season unraveled, with former Tennessee Titans coach Jeff Fisher and former Tampa Bay Buccaneers coach Jon Gruden mentioned as natural fits.
Demoff said a report that Fisher had already been scheduled for the first interview was ?100 percent false.? But he added that Fisher was a ?potentially attractive candidate.?
The Rams will have the second pick of the NFL draft in April, the fourth time in five seasons the team has had the No. 1 or 2 selection.
30 minutes ago
ST. LOUIS (AP)?The St. Louis Rams fired coach Steve Spagnuolo and general manager Billy Devaney on Monday, a day after the team wrapped up a 2-14 season that matched the worst record in the National Football League.
The Rams made a six-win improvement last season and played for the NFC West title in the finale, but were just 10-38 overall in three seasons with Spagnuolo and Devaney calling the shots.
Devaney had joined the front office a year earlier in 2008; the Rams were 12-52 in his four years as GM. He said in a statement Monday that while the record was disappointing, ?I wouldn?t trade that time for anything.?
Owner Stan Kroenke fired both men with one year remaining on their contracts, and with fan interest dwindling. The Edward Jones Dome in St. Louis was little more than half full in the later part of the season.
?No one individual is to blame for this disappointing season and we all must hold ourselves accountable,? Kroenke said in a statement. ?However, we believe it?s in the best interest of the St. Louis Rams to make these changes as we continue our quest to build a team that consistently competes for playoffs and championships.?
Kevin Demoff, vice president and chief operating officer, said the search for both positions should be concluded in the next few weeks and that it didn?t necessarily matter which position was filed first.
Names of potential replacements for Spagnuolo began to surface weeks ago as the season unraveled, with former Tennessee Titans coach Jeff Fisher and former Tampa Bay Buccaneers coach Jon Gruden mentioned as natural fits.
Demoff said a report that Fisher had already been scheduled for the first interview was ?100 percent false.? But he added that Fisher was a ?potentially attractive candidate.?
The Rams will have the second pick of the NFL draft in April, the fourth time in five seasons the team has had the No. 1 or 2 selection.
Sponge this was from the lack of addressing the issues on this team the last few years. Indy fans have been calling for both Polian's the last few years. Bill was actually supposed to step aside and let his son take over operations. It never happened. Time to go!
Polian had some great years but a change was needed. Caldwell should be next.
There is no excuse for some of the performances this team displayed during the season. The Saints game should have been the nail in the coffin. Not a Caldwell fan myself.
Now depending on Mannings health etc. I think we trade that pick and address major conerns in other areas. Just my 2 cents.
Jesus H Christmas
Anyone who trades Luck for some maybe whatevers is gonna be seen as mentally feeble. You would not want to be that person.
Well, maybe YOU would, but I doubt it. Jeez. :facepalm:
May we just move beyond this silliness, please. :0008 :shrug:
Anyone who trades Luck for some maybe whatevers is gonna be seen as mentally feeble. You would not want to be that person.
Well, maybe YOU would, but I doubt it. Jeez. :facepalm:
May we just move beyond this silliness, please. :0008 :shrug:
So Luck is a sure thing then? MMMM
There are no sure things in the NFL. Value outwieghs prospects. A QB is only part of the equation and the Colts need far more than Luck. Besides who says he would not sit out and not sign with the Colts. Happened before and could very well happen again.
If given alot for the pick then the Colts should trade him.
Luck also has a year of eligibility left as well. If he does not break the pre draft rules he could opt out before or after being drafted and return to school.
I am sure Oakland, SF, Houston and Cleveland would like to go back in time as well to rethink taking a QB#1. There are no sure things in the NFL.
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They could get a shit load for the pick.
As for the Polians they deserve to go. The team stunk. And I don't care if Manning went down. Your team should not be 1-15.
As for the Polians they deserve to go. The team stunk. And I don't care if Manning went down. Your team should not be 1-15.
whats a shit load
yes they could, I can think of 15 teams that would love to have him as their qb for the next 10 years
Luck doesn't strike me as the hold out type. Regardless, I wish a miracle happens and he ends up in DC.
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