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And coincidentally, as I post this, Joe Scarborough, a staunch rightie former Republican congressman, is commenting on how W insists on standing alone and basically acting like all the generals, all of America, almost everybody in the country, are wrong. But he is right.


DUBYA IN THE DUMPS
PRESS CONFERENCE A DISASTER


Un-presidential


President Bush was so discouraging yesterday ? especially on the war in Iraq ? that both he and the nation would have been better off with no press conference at all.

December 21, 2006 -- YESTERDAY, at a press conference that was unquestionably the most dispirited performance of his presidency, President Bush implicitly answered a question many close Bush watchers had asked after the thumpin' the Republican Party took in November.

The question was this: How would Bush, who himself had only suffered electoral success since seeking higher office in 1994, handle defeat? The answer: Not well.

"I encourage you all to go shopping more," he said - expressing a strange anxiety about the economy's retail sales after he had just trumpeted how strong those sales had been and how strong the economy has been in general.

Asked about the pregnancy of Mary Cheney, his vice president's lesbian daughter, Bush offered a response that contradicted itself three times in the course of three sentences: "On the - on Mary Cheney, this is a personal matter for the vice president and his family. I strongly support their privacy on the issue, although there's nothing private when you happen to be the president or the vice president. I recognize that."

And on Iraq, he said things were tough, and were going to continue to be tough; that he had said we were winning earlier in the fall but now recognized we weren't winning - and asked for patience as he consulted with his advisers and Democrats about a new way forward there.

So in a few months, the president has gone from taking the position that the public needed to hear him speak optimistically about Iraq to speaking in quite dour terms about Iraq without offering anything but a hope that in a few weeks, he'll come up with a new strategy.

It really would have been better had he not come forward to face the press at all - because he did nothing except underline and echo a powerful sense of uncertainty throughout his own government about how to achieve victory.

As usual, the president took pains to warn the enemy in Iraq that "they can't intimidate America." But, by offering no real sense that he knows what "the way forward in Iraq" is, he seemed unsteady - and unsteadiness is exactly the quality that should and will gladden the hearts of the enemy in Iraq.

If you combine the effect of yesterday's press conference with his remarkably depressing interview with The Washington Post the day before - when he said that victory was "achievable" in Iraq, a defeatist word that must have had Winston Churchill rolling in his grave - you can't help but feel that Bush has had the stuffing knocked out of him by the twin blows of the November election results and the bloody chaos in Baghdad.

Yet this is not a moment when we or the troops in Iraq can afford to have a winded and stunned president.

Bush is in an extraordinarily tight spot - but his failure to take the lead and win the day in Iraq will not be his failure alone. It will be a blow to America from which we will require a decade or more to recover.

And, Mr. President, in the absence of a terrorist attack that threatens worldwide commerce, the shopping habits of Americans are really and truly none of your business.

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I really believe he's starting to crack. He may not make 08. I mean just look at the guy he's shot.
 

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when you are used to getting every thing handed to you and business failure after failure just swept under the rug and saved by someone else, i guess you get a little demoralized when he finally for the first time in his life has some explaining to do. Looks like he may have to take responsibility for the first time in his life and doesn't have all his cronies with power there to protect him. Hell get out of it. He always does. Someone will take over this mess and get all the blame for the most miserable presidency in my life time
 

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And coincidentally, as I post this, Joe Scarborough, a staunch rightie former Republican congressman, is commenting on how W insists on standing alone and basically acting like all the generals, all of America, almost everybody in the country, are wrong. But he is right.

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Well him and the Weasel that is
 

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Well him and the Weasel that is

Well, Stevie i think even if Bush said he was wrong weasal would stand and say no GW you are right. Sometimes i think Weasal would have had a blast with twelve colleagues on the Simpson jury.
 

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uhh,let me help you guys with your reading comprehension....the gist of the column is that bush isn`t standing "strongly enough" on iraq....

that bush is beginning to sound just like you guys....

not that the writer agrees that we should be weak...as you guys espouse....

try reading it again...with your lips moving...

and yes,we do criticize the president....

liberals.....they never get it....

because liberals indulge in group think,you automatically think that everybody has been indoctrinated as you have....

we show respect for our own that have differing opinions....

you guys?....you`re the fascists....you call black republicans uncle toms and oreo cookies....and savage your own because they think for themselves(joe lieberman).........

the true fascists......

james woods (the actor) said, "scratch a liberal, find a fascist"......somebody musta scratched the hell outta you guys...

and btw...for the old hippies turned liberals/islamofascists...cat stevens(aka yusef islam) is coming back to town....

remember him?....the golden oldies?....the guy that called for the murder of salman rushdie?....his hits?

great songs like,"appease train comin' closer
ride on appease train"

and "i`m bein`followed by a moonshadow,

moonshadow moonshadow"

well,something tells me bushitler will have ole cat being followed by more than a moonshadow....and rightly so....

i may remake that song.....something like,

"i`m being followed by a moonbat shadow
a moonbat shadow named spongy"

second verse/"weasel`s being followed by a moonbat shadow
a moonbat butt plug named spongy"....:talk: dance1

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Wow, I went from a Comrade to a Facist all because I am right on Iraq. Too bad Weasel. You are the Comrade. This Occupation of Iraq that you support has made America weaker in it's fight against terrorism.
 

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Wow, I went from a Comrade to a Facist all because I am right on Iraq. Too bad Weasel. You are the Comrade. This Occupation of Iraq that you support has made America weaker in it's fight against terrorism.

as i stated many times here before...i had no problem with the invasion of iraq. my problem with this war was the way it was fought. if we had more troops involved in the first place, i believe there wouldn't be as many problems as there are now & less american soldiers would have been killed. if a country is going to war...then the country should do whatever it takes to win the war as quickly as possible.i guess this administration didn't learn for the viet nam mess.

originally i primarily blamed rumsfeld for this...but now i believe that bush has to get the majority of the blame.the rest of the blame has to go to our "allies"....ie..france & russia....for lying to powell as different times before the invasion.

and i'm finally agreeing with you stevie.....that this war has made us weaker in the eyes of our enemies....the u.s. nothing more than a "paper lion".....unfortunately this emboldens iran & n. korea.
 

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I couldn't agree with you more AR. I was against invading Iraq for many reasons but the main reason was because it is a war that we cannot win. The terrorists love us being there. Do you remember when we were supporting the Taliban? We were doing it to keep our enemies occupied. Now, we have fallen into the same trap.
No matter how you look at it the guys who made the decision to go in and did the planning cannot be allowed to make any more decisions. They are either crooks or incompetent. Either way, they cannot be in charge anymore. Our kids are dying everyday and for what?
 

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I couldn't agree with you more AR. I was against invading Iraq for many reasons but the main reason was because it is a war that we cannot win. The terrorists love us being there. Do you remember when we were supporting the Taliban? We were doing it to keep our enemies occupied. Now, we have fallen into the same trap.
No matter how you look at it the guys who made the decision to go in and did the planning cannot be allowed to make any more decisions. They are either crooks or incompetent. Either way, they cannot be in charge anymore. Our kids are dying everyday and for what?


i bleieve this war would have been won if it was fought properly....but that's all speculation.

i get an uneasy feeling when people call our reps (no matter the party) crooks without any proof (articles by people on the other side is not proof). at this point i would call this administration incompetent as far as handling the situation in iraq.

i disagree with your assertion that bush cannot be in charge anymore. he was elected to be president & he has 2 more years to serve. that's the way our system is.....

since i think it would be a horrible mistake to just pick up & leave......my solution in fixing this iraq mess....is to send in about 1/4 million more troops.....& seal off the borders.and start working within.
 

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Wow, I went from a Comrade to a Facist all because I am right on Iraq. Too bad Weasel. You are the Comrade. This Occupation of Iraq that you support has made America weaker in it's fight against terrorism.



stevie...i was kidding about the fascist thingee....the fascists are the ones that suppress differing points of view...the moonbat students that disrupt speeches on college campuses.......those that call border defenders "racists"....guys that call those that discuss the war without serving "chickenhawks"(and call the first lady the "c" word,btw).....that believe in a one world society....redistribution of wealth and property for the betterment of society(i.e. exhorbitant taxation and eminent domain)...fascism and socialism go hand in hand...


you know,those that can`t discuss issues legitimately and try and suppress discourse by using politically charged buzz words....a sort of soft fascism...

i don`t consider you a fascist...although the bush obsession is a tad unsettling...

but believe me...bush is wearing a bit thin on me,too...
 

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I was going to comment on quoting James Woods, but this gem is classic gardenweasel. Nice job!

here here! (or hear hear!...whichever)....

thankfully we have one intelligent AND nuanced liberal in the fold....one that appreciates the subtlety of genuine snarkiness.....somebody gets it....

i guess this is like getting pinched for the first time in 'goodfellas'...i feel like you broke my cherry....

thanks,bobby:thumb:
 

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i disagree with your assertion that bush cannot be in charge anymore. he was elected to be president & he has 2 more years to serve. that's the way our system is.....

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Al, our system also has impeachment built in.
 

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uhh,let me help you guys with your reading comprehension....the gist of the column is that bush isn`t standing "strongly enough" on iraq....


Uhhhh, my reading comprehension is just fine. This article just further illustrates the alienation of W & Co. from his 'base.'

One by one, almost every admin neo-con apologist have started to hold their nose. (are few are still just standing there holding their johnson)

Virtually nobody agrees with anything this guy has done in Iraq and/or his 'course,' such that it is.
 

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stevie...

you & others may disagree with bush's politics...but he did not do anything that is impeachable.

How many people even from his own administration need to show you how disturbingly out of touch you are? Do you need him himself to explain to you that he is a crook and a liar? You have to be the most out of touch person i have ever met on the web. What do you need to convince you that this guy is no good? Look i think i figured you out and you try to see the good in everything but my god man pick up a newspaper. Turn on the news. There was not one good reason to go into Iraq but to war profiteer or oil. The president of Iraq was contain like a little school girl. We have kids dying over there and you think this was a good idea? The war should have been run differently? There should have never been a war in the first place. When you see those pictures of Rumsfield shaking Saddams hand back in the day do you think they were made up? For goodness sake wake up. One of the first guys to leave Bush's cabinet said they (the bush clan) were planning to go into Iraq even before they were elected the first time. Did you ever hear of the Carlyle group? How about Kellog, Brown, Root? Haliburton? Any of these companies that are constantly being investigated?
 
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