You guys are on fire. 71% on Hawaii and 71% tonight on Central Michigan. Who are you guys on tomorrow? Never thought I would want to tail the public.
Congrats Squares
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I reading Michael Koniks "The Smart Money"...........BTW: Its Hip to be Square:SIB :142smilie :142smilie :142smilie
for what it's worth
I'm gonna say "square money" was driving the line down the last two/three days. "Sharp money" came in the last half hour before kick and bumped it up a bit. That tells me who the "sharps" were on if they existed and they gamble.
I'm gonna say "square money" was driving the line down the last two/three days. "Sharp money" came in the last half hour before kick and bumped it up a bit. That tells me who the "sharps" were on if they existed and they gamble.
Exactly. Hate getting wrapped up in this, but when Central Mich starts at -11, line is driven down over a few weeks to -7, then spikes up a bit before kickoff, I wouldn't call the Centra Mich betters squares.
Didn't have a penny on this game but claims like this are ridiculous.
IO - excellent observation. Line opened at 9.5 and went all the way down to 7.0 and back up some. Not so sure if it matters if you are a "square" or a "sharpie'. I think it matters if you cash or not. The money that moved the line back up was not likely public money but sharps trying to middle. Although Mr. Covers may disagree.
Public didn't drive the line from 11 to 7.5. Look at any consensus site and look at the % on Central Michigan. No way was the public on Middle Tennessee. Congrats guys but the public has been doing very well so far in bowls. We'll see if it holds up. Good luck!
If you bought at +11 or 10.5, when it dropped to 7.5 or 7 it becomes a nice middle situation. Maybe someone knows, but would think that most money on bowl games would be public money, but not sure.
STWoody - read Konick's book I had a hard time swallowing all he had to say. There were some names there that didn't ring a bell, though I am no encyclopedia on sports book managers, etc. Interested to hear what more knowledgable people than me have to say about the book.
STWoody - read Konick's book I had a hard time swallowing all he had to say. There were some names there that didn't ring a bell, though I am no encyclopedia on sports book managers, etc. Interested to hear what more knowledgable people than me have to say about the book.
Sharp money moved the line. Sharp money is what always moves the lines...public money rarely will move a line 3-4 points if ever. That's all I'm saying. You see this all the time, public pounds one side and sharps pound the other and the line moves opposite of the public. Just happens the public was correct on Central Michigan.
You're right. It was a good middle opportunity and I think there could have been some steaming going on.
I see what you are saying -- the heavy action moved the line while the nickle and dimers made up the high % of Central Mich action. You might be right, but that still doesn't mean a hill of beans when it comes to won and lost money.
Honest question -- has the dog ever been the square play? I only see these threads when a string of favorites hit in a row.
Ferdville..........I have no idea about the guys in Vegas, but I spent many years in Reno and this Brain Trust actually ruined it for many professional gambler trying to lay major action. In fact I was in South Lake when one of his beards came into Harrahs for the SuperBowl (San Fran vs San Diego) and plopped down 2.4 million on the San Fran ML.......Cash.........I asked him what was up (the point spread was 18.5 at the time)..just said it was a good investment........he was right. Over the years Walters crew busted many of Sportsbooks that didn't keep up with the Joneses........I know this guy had a legion of runners working for him in the north......nowadays can't find anyone to bank a $2,000 bet without major suspicion. Konik does enjoy the spotlight though...........I'm actually surprised noone ever bonked him on the head with all that Cash he was carrying around. It was a good read though.
