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.....and to answer your last question, I am a mathematician for the Defense Department.


Very respectful, but sort of explains your feelings in this matter to me.

Anyone who could do that for a living would likely never understand a person like Steve Irwin, and would likely see him as a crazy, risk taking nut.

He was quoted however as saying if something tragic were to get him it would liikely be in the water...not his "domain" where he was so good. No croc was ever going to eat this guy.
 

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Very respectful, but sort of explains your feelings in this matter to me.

Anyone who could do that for a living would likely never understand a person like Steve Irwin, and would likely see him as a crazy, risk taking nut.


I'll give you this one LOL. I am extremely conservative in all ways, even more so after I became a dad myself 10 years ago. I dont understand his lifestyle and never will. At least we agree on something. :)
 

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Did you see the recent (last 6 months) interview with his daughter?

If not DON'T!! It will break your heart.

This guy wasn't some loose cannon, running around filming wildlife. You should know, it was part of his family identity...what they had done their entire lives..and their legacy that would be passed on to his kids. His Dad did it and passed it to him...they started a zoo..the whole bit.

He was a great conservationist, and this is a horrible loss to our world IMO. You have to love anyone who has the kind of passion and energy he did, whether you agree or disagree with what they do.

This accident would be similar to the = button popping off your calculator and slitting your jugular...totally crazy.

Well...that last part may have been s t r e t c h i n g it a bit :)
 

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KD -- always held and still do hold you in high regard to intelligence factor. I assumed you did something similar to what you just stated. But, I think it is very unintelligent to judge someone so harshly because their type of intelligence is vastly different than your own. I would say in his particular realm, he would be considered one of the smartest people in the world.

What he did with his child may be somewhat more dangerous than your house dog, but (in my opinion) it is no more dangerous than a man flying a plane with his infant on board or a man driving his car down an interstate at 80 mph.
 

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Dawg,

I have just one issue with your comparison about flying or driving.....and that is of a "necessary risk". I could walk my son to Chicago to visit my brother, but is that safer for us both than flying or driving? I dont think so. Every action in life carries a risk, some bigger than others some more necessary than others. Holding my son while the jaws of an alligator are 2 feet away is in my eyes not a "necessary risk".

Sorry, but I dont see your point at all with the driving and flying analogy.
 

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Dawg,

I have just one issue with your comparison about flying or driving.....and that is of a "necessary risk". I could walk my son to Chicago to visit my brother, but is that safer for us both than flying or driving? I dont think so. Every action in life carries a risk, some bigger than others some more necessary than others. Holding my son while the jaws of an alligator are 2 feet away is in my eyes not a "necessary risk".

Sorry, but I dont see your point at all with the driving and flying analogy.

But what you view as "necessary risk" might not be to another person. You are the one who personally defines the risk.
 

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Then explain the "necessity" of holding an infant 24 inches from the jaws of death. I can explain the necessity of flying across country vs. walking.
 

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I stand corrected Agent. Again, what was I thinking? LOL. He's a genius.
 

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I guess you just wont be able to digest anything that isn't spit out of your calculator. :shrug:

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I can digest the fact that you've yet to make an intelligent point in favor of holding your child 6 feet from an alligator's mouth.

I'm waiting, anytime you're done blathering.


Would any of you let Steve hold YOUR child in that situation? Anyone who says "yes" is a ****ing liar.
 
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I can digest the fact that you've yet to make an intelligent point in favor of holding your child 6 feet from an alligator's mouth.

I'm waiting, anytime you're done blathering.


Would any of you let Steve hold YOUR child in that situation? Anyone who says "yes" is a ****ing liar.

He may be dead, but at least he lived....more than I can say for a lot of people.

No, I wouldn't let him hold my child in that situation but that argument doesn't hold much water either. I really don't feel like going into the reasons why and you likely wouldn't process them anyway.

I can see from talking to you, what prompted your ex wife to utter your signature line.

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We all live, some just more risky than others. But you proved my point, you have nothing of any intelligence to add. I can see why people give you shit around here pal. Peace out. I'm done arguing with a primate. I'll await a slightly more intelligent response to get involved again....where is Beantown Jim anyway???
 
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The gator was more like 6-8 feet. Have you EVEN seen the video?

Just saw the video on CNN, it's a matter of inches.

He drops the food right into the gators mouth, 8 feet away he'd have to toss it. He was always a bit of a showman and in the case of his baby son it may have been to a fault.

I agree with the thought that Irwin was a genius of sorts, and the top of his profession (be it a potentially dangerous one).
 

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KD -- not saying that I endorse him holding his son like that, but I also don't think it is a big deal. I believe to untrained people like you and me, it appears much more risky than it actually is.

Flying to Chicago is not "necessary" unless it is a life/death medical situation. Other than that, the "necessity" of the matter is your opinion not fact. But, then again, there are no facts, so your opinion is a fact whenever you make the decision. Is letting your son see Wrigley a "necessary" risk to allow him to be 10s of thousands of feet in the air in a 13 ton hunk of metal with our terrorist level at orange :scared -- I couldn't resist. ;) Or grandma's 100th birthday; or to see his first theater play; etc.

I will be the first to admit that I am not the most intelligent person on here, but I don't think your statement of necessary risk vs. others is completely valid.

But the main reason why I responded is you completely dismiss this man's intelligence becuase it is unlike your own. That really surprised me.

Anyway, no big deal. I think we lost a man that has done a ton of good for this world, and I am saddened by that.

But the Dawgs play Spurrier this weekend, and my cold-hearted ass will probably forget about it by then.
 

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We all live, some just more risky than others. But you proved my point, you have nothing of any intelligence to add. I can see why people give you shit around here pal. Peace out. I'm done arguing with a primate. I'll await a slightly more intelligent response to get involved again....where is Beantown Jim anyway???

Yea, we all "live" but I would be more inclined to say some of us live and others exist.

I could care less what you, or anyone else on this site thinks of me. I never have, and still don't have a problem with you, we just happen to disagree.

You're carrying on an argument about a video you haven't even watched? How intelligent is that?

To that family, interaction like that with animals, gators, etc. was necessary and part of their life. It is imperative that the children are introduced to that world ASAP, to prevent them from being afraid. You think it's crazy, and that is your right. I would just rather you said it that way instead of dismissing him as "not all there", or "nuts".
 
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