Cws

[fletcher]

how did cal get the shaft thats why its called a super reg,stanford had there chance last year and got smacked around by the cains, usc was avg at best this year hell marymont beat the 34-2 or something like that.

year in and year out sec is you best baseball conf. not a plug just a plain and simple fact. has been like that for the last 10-15 years from top to bottom no other conf can come close to them.

 

[wigs]

Monk-
really looking forward to the game on saturday, latest article here lists a couple of choices for saturday's game-- as i have said before, texas depth is great, however i just really worry that they lack the power it takes to win a CWS-- hope the wind stays calm during their games--

i would probably pass on simmons in game 1 and go with Bomer as Halsey might not be 100%-- hope to find out more before saturday, rice has some talent but then again they conquered the wac at something ridiculous like 26-2!!-- look to play clemson as well in first round--

anyway watched that home run derby they had tonight, what a joke, the lefty had quite the advantage--
http://www.austin360.com/aas/horns/baseball/cws/0613simmons.html

 

[Valuist]

I wonder if Clemson is susceptible. They started the season 26-1 and finished up by losing 6 of their final 14 games. FWIW, Notre Dame won 40 of their final 46 games.

 

[wigs]

texas

texas

a little more from the paper--

On Thursday, Texas was the only team that did not name a starting pitcher for its opening game. Head coach Augie Garrido and pitching coach Frank Anderson said they were still weighing their options for Saturday's game against Rice, a team with plenty of left-handed power hitters.

Left-hander Brad Halsey might be the logical choice for the Longhorns, but he is still bothered by a pulled back muscle and is questionable for the tournament. If the Longhorns stay with a left-hander, they will choose between Justin Simmons and Eugene Espineli. Alan Bomer and Ray Clark are the top choices among right-handers.
Rice has already announced that junior right-hander Steven Herce (13-2, 2.82 earned-run average) will start against Texas, which means the Longhorns likely will stack their lineup with left-handed batters.

Although senior outfielder Matt Rosenberg missed 43 games with a knee injury, he is a left-hander and will probably start in right field. Brandon Fahey, a solid left-handed hitter, will probably supplant freshman Michael Hollimon at shortstop.

Texas left fielder Dustin Majewski, taking advantage of a steady breeze to right, hit seven home runs in eight swings during batting practice Thursday at Rosenblatt Stadium. Majewski's .402 batting average was the highest in the Big 12 Conference this season. . . The outfield fences at Rosenblatt have been moved back between seven to 10 feet, another effort to help pitchers

 

[He Hate Me]

SouthCarolina is living a lie, they played 38 home games and have not played the schedule of Stanford, they are not 1 of the 20 best teams at all, they are a total fraud. Augie Garido at Texas has won 2 national championships at CS Fullerton and is a proven winner. Clemson and Nebraska have 0 pitching, it is a shame that Texas,Rice and Stanford the 3 best teams in the tournament are all in the bottom half, while Georgia Tech gets a free ride.

 

[fletcher]

you must be nuts,they had a bad game and unlike football,baseball is done through a playoff of 68 teams and they won the reg they were in and won the super reg. so how does that make them a living lie? every team that was in a conf had there chance to win it and go to a reg then if they win go to a super reg between 2 teams,so how do you think it should be set up?

think you should know how things work before you cry foul for the west coast teams. bottom line year in and out the sec is rated your best baseball conf from top to bottom,then pac 10,acc and big 12. you can say what ever you want i am sure i know what i am talking about when it comes to college baseball.and to say clemson has no pitching is another laugh they carry 10 + 3 pos players that can throw,one of the deepest staffs in baseball. college and pro are 2 totally different games. 2 studs cannot carry the team it takes at least 9 pitchers who can get outs you don't win 50+ games in college baseball and not be good. don't even know why i respond to things that people say from heart and not from knowing the sport and how it works ,just say it you a homer for the west coast and there is nothing wrong with that,but to say the teams that are there donot deserve to be there is a laugh they won it on the field of play and over 60 games not by a poll such is the case in d1 football. if the cal teams were so good they would of had more then 1 team in the super reg. sc proved it on the field so thats why they are there,and to call clemson a joke is also a big laugh,you should follow the sport alittle more before making statements that hold no water.

 

[fletcher]

and rice,stanford and tx are not seated in a lower bracket. the parings are match ups of the super regions that dictates who is playing who has nothing to do with top team or bottom team its a match up between regions has nothing to do with where you are ranked its what super reg is playing who,its a blind set up almost.,thats how tx and rice play each other in the first round,because they are 1 and 2 in the last poll,but parings are set up between super regions and always will,so it can't have the influnce of a vote to give someone an edge. bottom line is you have to win it on the field and if you are the best team you will win it. usc 33-24 they are better then sc or clemson out of your mind.

 

[tommy]

hi eric,
do you know a llivescore site for cws ? thx in advance.

 

[JT Sneaks]

Tommy

Tommy

this is one of the better ones i have found in the early going:

www.ncaachampionships.com

you may also want to check jack's link to scoreboards as you will find ones there as well...

hope this helps...

JT Sneaks

 

[tommy]

allright, thx jt.

 

[The Hammer]

S.E.C. Guru--"i say in omaha, south carolina will be hitting a lot of shots to the warning track. they will exit in no more than 3 games." >>>

I hope that was a money back guarantee. As I was told long ago, it is better to keep quiet and look like you know nothing than to open your mouth and leave no doubt. USC has proven that it belongs among the nation's elite with the best record in the country the last 3 years combined. Your biased predictions have no place on this board.


He Hate Me--"USC is not one of the top 20 teams in the country.">>>>

Same quote to S.E.C. Guru applies. THE USC has proven itself to be a Final Four team and one of the best in the country. Keep your Southern California bias off the board and remember that no trojan can hold our cocks.

 

[fletcher]

well have 2 of the 3 still left on my futures and 1 will get in,told you he hate me that sc belonged here,the would drill usc,and if tx doesnot hit they willnot beat either of these teams,don't think stanford can beat tx twice so i think tx gets to saturday. but think tigers or gamecocks take the saturday game. have to give a slight lean to tigers on fri. all i know tx will have hands full on thru with a stanford team that has played together 4 stright years out at the cws just don't know if they will have the pitching to beat tx twice but they will be a live dog thur.

but as stated you have no clue about college baseball by saying sc wasnot even a top 20 team ,well i guess they showed you. and everyone else who were talking about them they have the best hitting team in college baseball from 1-9 and best rated deff.

pitching my run out fri,and if tx doesnot win thur it won't be about pitching on sat it will be who scores the most because everyone will have fried their staff. nice showing for the state of s.car. the acc and sec again year in and out those are your baseball schools the last 20 years from top to bottom.

and now a big east team its great to watch all the big12 and pac 10 fans cringe because they get it handed to them in most major sports by these 3 confrences got to love it.

 

[fletcher]

bad move stealing 3rd up 11-4 in the bottom of the 8th,that gives clemson some locker room talk for fri and you don't want to wake a sleeping dog . also remember the ball is still in clemsons court sc still has to beat them again,yes they wanted to win but it was not do or die and it was for sc and stanford.clemson held back pitchers and left 1 in longer then they would if it was a must win they knew they had fri either way and you will see tx do the same thing so remember that if you are thinking about tx,might not burn staff to win if starter isnot on. because they know they have another day.

 

[Heyward]

Doesn't belong in the top 20 my ass. Having been born and raised in Columbia and having a father who went to South Carolina, I very much enjoy your defense of my Gamecocks, fletcher. Thanks for all of your great info on the CWS. Keep it coming, it is appreciated.

 

[USC Gamecock]

Fletcher,

Unfortunately it looks like SC has given Clemson some unnecessary fuel for the fire on Friday. All the talk this morning is about how SC 'disrespected' Clemson with various antics last night. Even the SC players admitted the tactics were bush league. The LAST thing Clemson needs is motivation for Friday. I have no idea who is going to win on Friday, but I do know that the state of SC has a lot to be proud of regardless. SC is going to start David Marchbanks on Friday, while Clemson is going with Patrick Henry (at least as of this morning those are the named starters). It should be one hell of a game on Friday. Here is one of the numerous articles about SC's antics last night. The media is eating this stuff up.

Antics during game add fuel to rivalry's fire
By Ed McGranahan
STAFF WRITER
emcgrana@greenvillenews.com

OMAHA, Neb. -- The University of South Carolina stoked its smoldering feud with Clemson University by defeating the Tigers 12-4 on Wednesday night at the College World Series.

Then, USC added more fuel to it with what Clemson thought was lighter fluid.

Clemson coach Jack Leggett suggested USC players challenged his team early and then crossed beyond the line of baseball decorum as the Gamecocks rallied from a three-run deficit to force a decisive game that will determine which team plays Saturday for the national championship.

"I guess I'm not a big fan of tossing hats after hat tricks and tossing bats after home runs," Leggett said tersely. "So, we'll be ready to play Friday."

It began with a brushback pitch to Khalil Greene by USC starting pitcher Blake Taylor after Zane Green hit the game's first pitch for a home run.

"The first time was pretty obvious," Leggett said. "They threw at Khalil Greene. We tried to respond."

In the fifth inning with the score tied, USC freshman reliever Matt Campbell, a Hillcrest High School graduate, struck out the side. His teammates tossed some batting helmets onto the top step of their dugout to designate a "hat trick."

USC coach Ray Tanner said he didn't believe there was any malice, but he chastised the players for the helmet tossing.

"I don't tolerate that, and I immediately told the players who did it how I felt," Tanner said. "It was done in good fun, but it's not something I believe is appropriate."

The tension went up a notch in the sixth when USC right fielder Steve Thomas tagged Clemson starting pitcher Steve Reba for a leadoff home run for a 5-4 lead. He stopped to watch the ball as it sailed into the left-field seats and then flipped his bat.

"I have all the respect in the world for Steve Reba," Thomas said. "It was done in the exhilaration of the moment."

Tanner said he doesn't think Clemson needs anymore incentive given the stakes of Friday's game. And he said he wasn't sure Taylor actually was throwing at Greene.

"They'd just scored a run and had Johnson and (Jeff ) Baker coming up and the wind was blowing out," he said.

Reba evidently thought there was a message in Taylor's pitch, so his first delivery to Drew Meyer sailed all the way to the back stop. Home plate umpire Kevin Daugherty warned both benches.

"They are over there doing their little things and all that," Clemson left fielder Roberto Valiente said. "We don't do that, so we'll use it as motivation. It's a big rivalry already, and its just one of those things that's going to make it bigger."

Green's home run and a two-run homer by Johnson in the third were the most noise Clemson would make. Valiente singled home a run in the fourth, but Campbell pitched 5? innings of relief to earn the victory.

Johnson said he didn't take umbrage to USC's antics.

"Any time in a big game like this there's going to be a certain amount of that going on," he said. "Coach Leggett wasn't very happy, and none of the players were, either.

"But the rivalry is built up big, and both teams compete very hard. I don't see anything that went on that isn't traditional Clemson-South Carolina battle."

Clemson actually missed three opportunities to put some distance on USC, but the Tigers left the bases loaded three times in the first four innings.

"We got what we deserved," Leggett said. "We didn't pitch very well, we didn't hit with men on base and we struggled a little bit defensively."

 

[kevinmac_99]

Fletch......

Fletch......

How are you doing first of all? Just thought I would give some of my views on this topic. I played ball my whole life and went to College on a scholarship as a catcher(tools of ignorance). I must say this.....Pitching wins Championships no matter how you look at it......By saying that Texas will run outta pitching if they lose today and it will be a matter of who scores more runs in the championship is a little far fetched in my opinion. This being said, not only does Texas have the best ERA in the nation but they also have one of the deepest staffs (since Texas of 83' when they won it all?) with the #1 rated defense at year end. They have won 17 outta last 19 games and that's the type of play you need coming into this tournament. They are #2 in the nation and ousted Rice in game 1. They will only get better as the have some awesome FR and SOPH talent on this team. As far as that CLEM/SC game went.......I think SC is meat on Friday....You just dont pull those BS antics like SC did yesterday. Boy will CLEMSONS 2,3, and 4 hitters be ready tomorrow!!! Watch out SC I think your doomed!! Good Luck All!!!!!

KMAC

 

[s.e.c guru]

hammer i still stay with my quote that southcarolina lives by the long ball in a short porch park. i cant help that the wind was blowing out 20 miles and hour in the clemson game.
trust me i know allot about the s.e.c. in all sports.

where was your quoting me after they were beaten 11-0 in the first game? and my best guess is that you wont be around after friday either.

 

[The Hammer]

S.E.C. "Guru"--

I have been around since Sept. 2000, so don't expect me to be hiding after Friday regardless of the outcome, you johnny-come- lately. You have lost ALL credibility with me and every other poster or lurker on this board.

I know you would hate to let facts get in the way of a good argument, but here goes anyway:

FACT 1: S.E.C. Guru's post from 6-13-02--
"you get south carolina out of that cracker jack park that they play in and you will see a differnt south carolina team. south carolina offense is centered around the long ball. they play in 1 of the smallest parks in collge baseball. most of their players have that upward swing going for the fences. i say in omaha, south carolina will be hitting a lot of shots to the warning track. they will exit in no more than 3 games."


FACT 2:
The USC is preparing for its 5th game in Omaha, will finish no worse than 3rd in the country, and is 2 wins from the national championship.

FACT 3:
S.E.C. Guru knows nothing about sports and betting in general or about the SEC in particular.


I have always respected Fletcher and I am glad to see that he also recognizes your incompetence. Please come back during football season so I'll know which teams to bet against.

--Kevin-Smack--Since you are a Texas boy, I understand why you hope the cocks don't win Friday.

 

[fletcher]

kmac was also a catcher in college and beyond and was on a team as a coach that was at the cws.

say what you want if tx burns the staff tonight it will be a slug fest on saturday because they will have to use at least 3-5 guys thur and fri and then you have saturday,this has nothing to do with who has the best staff over the year. this is a whole different game when you have the chance of playing 3 stright days in a parl that is starting to heat up. the winner on sat will score at least 8 runs or more i myself say it will be double didgets,you can come back sat and tell me if i am wrong but i bet you between tonight if tx goes down and through the game saturday if they get there which i think they will they will use at least 9 pitchers ,start counting tonight.

good luck.

ps pitching wins championships,no pitching gets you there in the cws runs win championships,show me the last time a game was 2-1 1-0 in the title game of the cws? runs win the big game pitching gets you there i say again,by the time the last game rolls around runs and hits out weigh the arms look at stanford last year had 1 and 2 go in the championship and got smacked for 8 runs.

 

[fletcher]

heres the scores the last 9 years starting last year working down
12-1
6-5
6-5
21-14
13-6
9-8
11-5
13-5
8-0

i see runs winning the games