Cws

[Felonious Monk]

Fletch,

I respectfully disagree, I think our team is very focused, they will not take this game lightly. We don't have to throw the kitchen sink at them. We have so many quality pitchers, that if somebody gets in trouble, you just bring the next one in. Very orderly. The job will get done. I think UT can afford to be a little more aggressive on the basepaths and try to put pressure on the Trees with some hit and runs, etc.

Stanford's pitching, on the other hand, will be very thin after Guthrie. A win tonight would be HUGE with South Carolina and Clemson pounding each other's pitching staffs again on Friday afternoon.

In reality, we've got enough great pitching where it's not going to be an issue. The staff is essentially fresh. The paper even said that we may have Halsey for a Saturday game if needed. Our pitching is what got us here, hopefully it comes through again tonight.

--Kevin-Smack--Since you are a Texas boy, I understand why you hope the cocks don't win Friday.

Hammer,

What was that shit all about? Kevinmac was only throwing out stats for the Horns and giving his opinion on why the cocks shouldn't have stolen a base. Fletcher essentially said the same thing and I didn't see you say anything to him. I think you need to get your priorities straight next time you open your trap and keep your beef with sec guru. You have the nerve to call out Texans when you live in that shithole State of yours? Please.

 

[kevinmac_99]

Fletch....

Fletch....

Made a comment in your other thread you started about my earlier post here....Can you by chance let me know where I can find some info on the pitching staff ERA's of past CWS participants??

--The-Rubber-Mallet--You know what...ah nevermind...I'll just let a COCK be a COCK.....GLT!!!

KMAC

 

[fletcher]

i am saying i think the horns hold back today on pitching if they get up or down,yes a win would be great but either way i think they play saturday against clemson and it will be a hitters game,tx has a very deep staff but it would be best not to tax it today knowing that the have fri also and probley sat because i don't think the cards can beat them twice in 2 days.

 

[The Hammer]

Felonious Monk and K-Smack--

You say that the cocks should not have stolen a base in the 8th inning up by seven runs. You obviously don't know college baseball. USC gave up 9 runs in the 9th inning earlier this year and lost, and unfortunately did the same thing two years ago. Hell, USC scored 5 in the 9th against Miami to advance to the CWS. The wind was blowing out in Omaha last night and with the aluminum bats, the wind, and Clemson's strong hitting team, attempting to get some more insurance runs was reasonable. Also, you don't know the history b/w USC and Clemson. Did you fail to see the Clemson catcher give USC player Garris Gonce a forearm to the face when Gonce slid home, even though the catcher mishandled the ball 2 seconds earlier and had no play? Did you see former Clemson player Casey Stone sucker punch a U-La-La player in the CWS two years ago after U-La-La knocked the tigers out of the tournament?

BTW, Monk, nobody called out Texans, but since you started it, I will say that Chrissy Simms is the biggest pussy I have ever seen wear a college football uniform.

 

[Felonious Monk]

Originally posted by Felonious Monk:

Fletcher essentially said the same thing and I didn't see you say anything to him.

Your response:

Felonious Monk and K-Smack--

Now who's the pussy? :gf:

 

[Felonious Monk]

Let me add that my last statement had no disrespect towards Fletcher, he has my full respect as a capper and gentleman.

Didn't mean to steer this thread the wrong way if I did Fletch but when someone (Hammer) talks as precariously and ignorant as he does, someone has to point out his stupidity.

....and Simms jokes? C'mon man, it's 2002 now. Think of something new.

 

[fletcher]

first off tx is in the drivers seat now with one hell of a pitcher throwing saturday,he is the kind of pitcher that drives you nuts does not break speed limit on highway but has great movement and puts it where he wants turns batters into front foot hitters.

and running up 7 runs is bush in the bottom 8th inning and any college coach knows that,rule of thumb you donot run if one swing of the bat cannot beat you with only 3 outs left. so that means you call the dogs off after you have a five run lead,grandslam cannot beat or tie you. say all you want every college coach will say the same thing. that is a unwritten rule. maybe you should learn the coaching aspect of the game. if game wasnot so big fri a sc better a team i respect would get drilled in the first inning,they were very classless in there win and that isnot like them,could of been the heat of the battle,but it should of been up to the coaching staff after the toss of the bat and stair into tigers dugout to stop it right there.

trust me this might come back to bite them in the ass. have watched sc play over 15 times this year and have a close friend who is an asst. there and this isnot how they were taught and isnot how they carry themself on the field it just got out of hand and like i said they woke a sleeping dog with disrespect by showing them up 3 different times.

 

[The Hammer]

Monk--


>>>"when someone (Hammer) talks as precariously and ignorant as he does, someone has to point out his stupidity.">>>>>>>>>

Speaking of ignorance, your word choice and grammar is pathetic.

Also, loser, no one asked your opinion and if you want to provide it, at least do so intelligently. Obviously, Clempzon has manufactured some locker room talk for tomorrow. However, USC will have just as much, if not more. Clempzon has been pulling crap like this for years. Ray Tanner has always taken the high road as opposed to Jack ass Leggett, but tanner finally spoke up today.

>>Though not angry, Tanner obviously wasn't happy
with Leggett's decision to go public with his frustrations.
"I think it was blown out of proportion a little bit. We had
a great game, and I'm disappointed some of those things
came out," Tanner said. "I have great respect for coach
Leggett (and) his assistant coaches. I consider myself friends
with those guys, (but) quite frankly I was not happy he spoke
about some things he spoke about.
"He tends to talk about what his team doesn't do when they
lose, and I tend to talk about what teams do to beat us when
I lose. It's just a different path that we take, and I think it
took something away from the game." >>


We will see what happens tomorrow. Clemson probably has an advantage with pitching b/c USC is in its 5th game in a week, but the things that happened Wednesday will have no impact on the outcome.


:moon:

 

[The Hammer]

Fletcher--if you have a friend who is an asst. at USC, then you should understand the history of the USC-Clemson series and that Clemson has been doing this crap for years. USC is finally standing up to them. Ray Tanner is as big of a gentlemen as there is in college baseball, but he also is finally tired of Clemson. We have had the same two asst. coaches for several years (Toman and Myer) and several fans at Clemson started a fight with Toman four years ago. Last season, Jack Leggett pointed at Kip Bouknight and shouted obscenities at him during a game. Leggett has never praised USC when they defeat his team, but merely makes excuses and blames his own team's poor play. If you look at Wednesday night's game in this context, you should have a different view.

 

[fletcher]

wrong pitcher,was thinking about the guy from tech ,tx will come with their stud and have a full bp rested.

grammer might be poor if your talking to me,but how many colleges teams have you played for or coached?

 

[fletcher]

i know,what i was saying is that isnot sc style of play and they are not coached that way. they are one of the class teams on the field.

you just don't want to kick a team when you have drilled them it comes back to bite you in time, if you look at the start of this thread i said sc was my sleeper and clemson and rice well rice crashed quick so have 1 of 2 that will make it for my futures bet just have to think who i want,over all sc has the better hitters from top to bottom and like their deff more,there pitching has me worried,i willnot play the game fri because its like betting against my self. would like to see sc get there.

i just didnot like how it played out because they are coached better then that.

good luck either way will be a sc fan for the state on

 

[USC Gamecock]

Monk,

What's up with the cheap shot at SC? :nono: Come on man, you gotta be better than that. Let's talk baseball, not this state v. state crap.

I think Tx. is sitting in a very envious position at this point having won last night. Their pitching will be deep and strong. However, Fletecher makes a good point about the championship game having a recent history of turning into a slugfest. I promise you this, you do not want to get into a slugfest versus Clemson (who unfortunately I think will win today). Their line up is too strong to go bat to bat with. Anyway, should be one hell of a game on Saturday regardless. Good luck to all the long horns out there.

Fletcher,

SC's antics on Wednesday have EVERYTHING to do with the SC/CU rivalry. It's just like Hammer said, CU has taken many a low road against SC over the years (not that SC is innocent mind you). You can't blame these kids for getting excited in such a big game for them...and considering it's against CU? Forget about it. Hammer is also correct in another respect, Leggett (who I think is a good game coach) has also taken many a low road against SC. He is ALWAYS making excuses against SC and I have NEVER once heard him compliment SC. Instead he insists on making excuses as to why the so called "better team" lost.

Hammer,

What's up with that Crissy Simms comment? You don't have any better material than that?

Here is the latest on SC's starter tonight.

Rested pitchers could get nod for USC
By STEVE WISEMAN
Staff Writer

Omaha, Neb Two freshmen and a junior who pitched just seven innings this season prior to the NCAA Tournament have USC's wins during the Gamecocks' current three-game winning streak.

So, based on those unexpected performances by Aaron Rawl, Matt Campbell and John Wesley this week, it might not matter who starts for USC in its do-or-die College World Series game with Clemson today.

USC coach Ray Tanner said Thursday he's considering senior Chris Spigner and junior Steven Bondurant for the job, but the bullpen will play a major role as the Gamecocks shoot for a berth in Saturday's national championship game.

"We're leaning toward Bondurant and Spigner," Tanner said. "They seem to be our two most rested guys. They are two veteran guys. So it looks like one of those two will start."

Bondurant (6-4, 4.53 ERA) started 13 games this season and was in USC's regular weekend rotation. But he's made only one NCAA Tournament start. In 4d innings in the tournament, Bondurant has allowed 12 hits and six runs. His ERA is a lofty 11.57.

Spigner (7-0) has made nine starts in his 25 appearances this season. But he was mostly used to start mid-week games against non-Southeastern Conference opponents.

But, in the NCAA Tournament, Spigner has pitched well. In eight innings, he's yet to allow a run while giving up four hits. The area of concern has been his control. He's walked nine while striking out five.

No matter who starts, Tanner said Wesley (2-0, 3.31 ERA) will be a factor in the game. Wesley allowed one run in 3d innings to get the win against Nebraska on Sunday in his only College World Series appearance.

In the NCAA Tournament, he's thrown 9D innings, allowing two runs while striking out seven. His ERA is an impressive 1.93.

"It could be a big role," Tanner said. "He's come up big for us down the stretch here. He's been in a couple of tough situations. Our plans right now are for him to be in that situation. He's come through for us in the postseason and it would be great if he could do it again."

Tanner said senior Blake Taylor, who has struggled in his two College World Series starts, might be able to throw an inning.

"He's run up a pitch count, too," Tanner said. "He's not going to be available for much at all. Maybe a short stint, a batter or two. Possibly an inning, but he's not going to be able to throw much."

? Slumping Peters. First baseman Yaron Peters literally carried USC to the College World Series with eight home runs and 13 RBIs over the Gamecocks' first nine NCAA Tournament games.

But the senior with 29 home runs and 94 RBIs this season has found hits hard to come by lately.

Since hitting a two-run, ninth-inning home run to beat Nebraska 10-8 Sunday, Peters is zero for his last eight at bats with three walks.

"It's not even them getting me out," Peters said. "It's me getting me out. I was mostly chasing balls that really weren't in the zone."

? Facing Henrie. USC has had mixed results against Clemson pitcher Matt Henrie, who'll start for the Tigers today.

During a March 3 game at Clemson, that the Tigers rallied to win 11-10, the Gamecocks torched Henrie for five runs on eight hits.

But on April 24 at Sarge Frye Field, Henrie pitched seven strong innings helping the Tigers win 4-1. Henrie allowed just six singles while striking out seven and issuing one walk.

"We need to be patient," Peters said. "He does a great job of moving the ball in and out and just spotting. He hits his spots and can be really overpowering."

 

[Felonious Monk]

As previously stated......

As previously stated......

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[kevinmac_99]

The above post.......

The above post.......

Is by me not FM..sorry FM....you didnt log out.....

KMAC

 

[Felonious Monk]

Originally posted by Hammer:

Also, loser, no one asked your opinion and if you want to provide it, at least do so intelligently.

As I don't seem to recall anyone ever asking you your opinion, I believe it's your intelligence, or lack thereof, that is suspect as you preceded your last statement with these 2 gems:

"--Kevin-Smack--Since you are a Texas boy, I understand why you hope the cocks don't win Friday."

"I will say that Chrissy Simms is the biggest pussy I have ever seen wear a college football uniform."


Looks like you're the only one who has resorted to talking smack. Quit ignoring the facts and making excuses for your team. Just get the job done tonight because we'll be waiting for you on Saturday, nice and rested.

 

[USC Gamecock]

K'Mac,

Do you really think that either SC or CU is "one dimensional", come on man, you can't be serious. :nooo: You don't get anywhere near this far by being one dimensional. Sure, SC and CU's offense have been their strong points, but to go as far as to say their pitching is so inept as to be one dimensional is stretching it. SC also has one of the best defenses (top 3) in the nation. One dimensional...no way.

On the other hand, If you are referring to the fact that both SC and CU have emptied thier bullpens beating eachother to death, well then I would tend to agree with you. Tx. definitely has the upper hand there.

Either way, GL on Saturday, I can only hope the championship makes its way back to this "shithole state of mine" :grins: one way or the other.

 

[kevinmac_99]

COCK....

COCK....

My point here is that NEITHER team no matter what you say can't beat anyone HERE IN OMAHA with pitching alone like TEXAS can...Texas made that pretty OBVIOUS last night. GL tonight!!

KMAC

 

[Felonious Monk]

USC Gamecock,

Sorry but your USC brethren, Hammer, provoked the "shithole" comment, don't take it personal. I was merely fighting fire with fire since he thought it was necessary to downgrade my home State and then sneak in that lame ass Chrissy Simms blurb.

I happen to think very highly of the Gamecocks team. They had the toughest road to Friday's game and overcame a lot of adversity to get this far.

I agree with you that we now have the advantage by winning last night. All I care about right now is the fact our guys have a day off to rest, and Cocks/Tigers do not, and the fact that the Horns are going to be playing for it all Saturday afternoon.

Factors in our favor: 1) We're clicking on all cylinders 2) we have a day to rest up 3) We have our ace fresh 4) whoever we play should be a little tired and have a depleted pitching staff

1975 College World Series Championship
Texas 5, South Carolina 1

 

[USC Gamecock]

K'Mac

I prefer you go with Gamecock over "cock", but I get the point nonetheless. Unfortunately, I think you guys will be battling Clemson on Saturday for the title. It should be a great game.

Favorite bumber sticker seen around Columbia:

"You can't lick our Cocks!"

I wanna see Monk and Hammer in a Texas death match. :grins:

 

[USC Gamecock]

Monk,

You guys are definitley clicking on all cylinders...no doubt. You guys are also licking your chops watching SC and CU kill eachother trying to get to Saturday. By the time it's all said and done I think Texas takes home the trophy on Saturday, regardless, I'll have a good time watching the game :drinky:

I think at this point there is absolutely no shame in getting sent home by any of these teams.

GL