Explosions at Boston Marathon
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big difference between sheltering her and making a decision to not put her into a situation that I feel is dangerous
dances/school functions/friends/ travel/hobbies she can have free reign to do any of those things..
keeping her outta sporting events I would say is far from sheltering her.
atleast IMO....
and im not scared of the "real world", whatever that is, rather scared of her being involved in something like this tradgedy....
never got that....what is the "real world"....ask someone from Virginia, they will tell you totally opposite then someone from new York....so to assume a child will grow up "messed up" because they are only exposed to certain things is kinda a outrageous statement, considering children all over the country grow up like that everyday...
kids in Wisconsin don't get the beaches....kids in florida don't get the slopes....if my daughter doesn't get baseball games or a movie, im sure she will survive...
so ya, she can be as social as she desires, and when she is older im sure she will go to all the events she wants....
I work with children....I promise you if keeping her from seein a concert or a pirates game is the worst thing im doing, I think she will be just fine....
and for the record, im not saying I disagree with you Airportis....some people seem to take alternate opinions as an insult....I do not want you to interpret this like that, which im sure you wont....
ya I may of sounded a little extreme right now saying "never will she go to something", but this shit hits home with me for some reason, and I cannot stand how some people choose to harm people like this...
I have said it before, a child's innocence is something that is undeniable, regardless if it is your child, your neighbors, or your enemies....
I think everyone should go on living their lives however they see fit.....
George Santayana, who, in his Reason in Common Sense, The Life of Reason, Vol.1, wrote "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
Historically look at things that happen around tax day.
Ruby ridge
Waco
Oklahoma City
Boston
Think about it...
Historically look at things that happen around tax day.
Ruby ridge
Waco
Oklahoma City
Boston
Think about it...
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Just a crazy situation. Certainly glad the fatality rate was not that of other terrorist attacks. That said, looks like we have very few answers, which is a little troubling. So many rumors and pictures flying around the 'net, add in some opinions (from both sides) and everyone is all of a sudden everyone is one step away from Sec. Of Homeland Secretary.
That said, you can bet your ass I'll be watching this thing next year, live. Hell, I may even run it. There are so few mediums that we come together as a group...not in academia, not anywhere but sports. The fanatic sports fan is oft belittled for being over the top, but you can bet that tonight's Bruins game will be a city's way of giving the big middle finger to whomever tried to disrupt our society. Sure we hear "its only a game" and "its just sports" but it really is a way for most of us to just relax and take our mind off of things (relatively speaking).
The images of police officers drawing their guns and running toward the explosion sites will be forever ingrained in my mind.
Backing down and thus, hurting our economy, is certainly what "they" want. I won't let it happen on my watch. As soon as it's open, I'm not afraid to head right in. Understand not everyone feels this way, but in a way it's the world we live in. To me it's just common sense...look both ways before you cross the street/be more aware of surroundings, all relatively.
JB
That said, you can bet your ass I'll be watching this thing next year, live. Hell, I may even run it. There are so few mediums that we come together as a group...not in academia, not anywhere but sports. The fanatic sports fan is oft belittled for being over the top, but you can bet that tonight's Bruins game will be a city's way of giving the big middle finger to whomever tried to disrupt our society. Sure we hear "its only a game" and "its just sports" but it really is a way for most of us to just relax and take our mind off of things (relatively speaking).
The images of police officers drawing their guns and running toward the explosion sites will be forever ingrained in my mind.
Backing down and thus, hurting our economy, is certainly what "they" want. I won't let it happen on my watch. As soon as it's open, I'm not afraid to head right in. Understand not everyone feels this way, but in a way it's the world we live in. To me it's just common sense...look both ways before you cross the street/be more aware of surroundings, all relatively.
JB
Can we really know what "they" want if we don't know who "they" are...
terrorists??? Or what if this was another 19 year old autistic child who just wanted to kill people.
That's what frightens me....the randomness of it all....literally this could've been the biggest terrorist group in the world who wants to end our country or it could've been a 16 year old boy who likes fire....
I guess I should've watched news this morning....Have they found out anything on the suspect or do they know anything new? Hope they figure it out soon...
Glad your safe and hope your community bounces back like we know they will.
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THE SAUDI MARATHON MAN
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A twenty-year-old man who had been watching the Boston Marathon had his body torn into by the force of a bomb. He wasn?t alone; a hundred and seventy-six people were injured and three were killed. But he was the only one who, while in the hospital being treated for his wounds, had his apartment searched in ?a startling show of force,? as his fellow-tenants described it to the Boston Herald, with a ?phalanx? of officers and agents and two K9 units. He was the one whose belongings were carried out in paper bags as his neighbors watched; whose roommate, also a student, was questioned for five hours (?I was scared?) before coming out to say that he didn?t think his friend was someone who?d plant a bomb?that he was a nice guy who liked sports. ?Let me go to school, dude,? the roommate said later in the day, covering his face with his hands and almost crying, as a Fox News producer followed him and asked him, again and again, if he was sure he hadn?t been living with a killer.
Why the search, the interrogation, the dogs, the bomb squad, and the injured man?s name tweeted out, attached to the word ?suspect?? After the bombs went off, people were running in every direction?so was the young man. Many, like him, were hurt badly; many of them were saved by the unflinching kindness of strangers, who carried them or stopped the bleeding with their own hands and improvised tourniquets. ?Exhausted runners who kept running to the nearest hospital to give blood,? President Obama said. ?They helped one another, consoled one another,? Carmen Ortiz, the U.S. Attorney for Massachusetts, said. In the midst of that, according to a CBS News report, a bystander saw the young man running, badly hurt, rushed to him, and then ?tackled? him, bringing him down. People thought he looked suspicious.
What made them suspect him? He was running?so was everyone. The police reportedly thought he smelled like explosives; his wounds might have suggested why. He said something about thinking there would be a second bomb?as there was, and often is, to target responders. If that was the reason he gave for running, it was a sensible one. He asked if anyone was dead?a question people were screaming. And he was from Saudi Arabia, which is around where the logic stops. Was it just the way he looked, or did he, in the chaos, maybe call for God with a name that someone found strange?
What happened next didn?t take long. ?Investigators have a suspect?a Saudi Arabian national?in the horrific Boston Marathon bombings, The Post has learned.? That?s the New York Post, which went on to cite Fox News. The ?Saudi suspect??still faceless?suddenly gave anxieties a form. He was said to be in custody; or maybe his hospital bed was being guarded. The Boston police, who weren?t saying much of anything, disputed the report?sort of. ?Honestly, I don?t know where they?re getting their information from, but it didn?t come from us,? a police spokesman said. But were they talking to someone? Maybe. ?Person of interest? became a phrase of both avoidance and insinuation. On the Atlas Shrugs Web site, there was a note that his name in Arabic meant ?sword.? At an evening press conference, Ed Davis, the police commissioner, said that no suspect was in custody. But that was about when the dogs were in the apartment building in Revere?an inquiry that was seized on by some as, if not an indictment, at least a vindication of their suspicions.
?There must be enough evidence to keep him there,? Andrew Napolitano said on ?Fox and Friends???there? being the hospital. ?They must be learning information which is of a suspicious nature,? Steve Doocy interjected. ?If he was clearly innocent, would they have been able to search his house?? Napolitano thought that a judge would take any reason at a moment like this, but there had to be ?something??maybe he appeared ?deceitful.? As Mediaite pointed out, Megyn Kelly put a slight break on it (as she has been known to do) by asking if there might have been some ?racial profiling,? but then, after a round of speculation about his visa (Napolitano: ?Was he a real student, or was that a front??), she asked, ?What?s the story on his ability to lawyer up??
By Tuesday afternoon, the fever had broken. Report after report said that he was a witness, not a suspect. ?He was just at the wrong place at the wrong time,? a ?U.S. official? told CNN. (So were a lot of people at the marathon.) Even Fox News reported that he?d been ?ruled out.? At a press conference, Governor Deval Patrick spoke, not so obliquely, about being careful not to treat ?categories of people in uncharitable ways.?
We don?t know yet who did this. ?The range of suspects and motives remains wide open,? Richard Deslauriers of the F.B.I. said early Tuesday evening. In a minute, with a claim of responsibility, our expectations could be scrambled. The bombing could, for all we know, be the work of a Saudi man?or an American or an Icelandic or a person from any nation you can think of. It still won?t mean that this Saudi man can be treated the way he was, or that people who love him might have had to find out that a bomb had hit him when his name popped up on the Web as a suspect in custody. It is at these moments that we need to be most careful, not least.
It might be comforting to think of this as a blip, an aberration, something that will be forgotten tomorrow?if not by this young man. There are people at Guan?tanmo who have also been cleared by our own government, and are still there. A new report on the legacy of torture after 9/11, released Tuesday, is a well-timed admonition. The F.B.I. said that they would ?go to the ends of the earth? to get the Boston perpetrators. One wants them to be able to go with their heads held high.
?If you want to know who we are, what America is, how we respond to evil?that?s it. Selflessly. Compassionately. Unafraid,? President Obama said. That was mostly true on Monday; a terrible day, when an eight-year-old boy was killed, his sister maimed, two others dead, and many more in critical condition. And yet, when there was so much to fear that we were so brave about, there was panic about a wounded man barely out of his teens who needed help. We get so close to all that Obama described. What?s missing? Is it humility?
THE SAUDI MARATHON MAN
POSTED BY AMY DAVIDSON
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A twenty-year-old man who had been watching the Boston Marathon had his body torn into by the force of a bomb. He wasn?t alone; a hundred and seventy-six people were injured and three were killed. But he was the only one who, while in the hospital being treated for his wounds, had his apartment searched in ?a startling show of force,? as his fellow-tenants described it to the Boston Herald, with a ?phalanx? of officers and agents and two K9 units. He was the one whose belongings were carried out in paper bags as his neighbors watched; whose roommate, also a student, was questioned for five hours (?I was scared?) before coming out to say that he didn?t think his friend was someone who?d plant a bomb?that he was a nice guy who liked sports. ?Let me go to school, dude,? the roommate said later in the day, covering his face with his hands and almost crying, as a Fox News producer followed him and asked him, again and again, if he was sure he hadn?t been living with a killer.
Why the search, the interrogation, the dogs, the bomb squad, and the injured man?s name tweeted out, attached to the word ?suspect?? After the bombs went off, people were running in every direction?so was the young man. Many, like him, were hurt badly; many of them were saved by the unflinching kindness of strangers, who carried them or stopped the bleeding with their own hands and improvised tourniquets. ?Exhausted runners who kept running to the nearest hospital to give blood,? President Obama said. ?They helped one another, consoled one another,? Carmen Ortiz, the U.S. Attorney for Massachusetts, said. In the midst of that, according to a CBS News report, a bystander saw the young man running, badly hurt, rushed to him, and then ?tackled? him, bringing him down. People thought he looked suspicious.
What made them suspect him? He was running?so was everyone. The police reportedly thought he smelled like explosives; his wounds might have suggested why. He said something about thinking there would be a second bomb?as there was, and often is, to target responders. If that was the reason he gave for running, it was a sensible one. He asked if anyone was dead?a question people were screaming. And he was from Saudi Arabia, which is around where the logic stops. Was it just the way he looked, or did he, in the chaos, maybe call for God with a name that someone found strange?
What happened next didn?t take long. ?Investigators have a suspect?a Saudi Arabian national?in the horrific Boston Marathon bombings, The Post has learned.? That?s the New York Post, which went on to cite Fox News. The ?Saudi suspect??still faceless?suddenly gave anxieties a form. He was said to be in custody; or maybe his hospital bed was being guarded. The Boston police, who weren?t saying much of anything, disputed the report?sort of. ?Honestly, I don?t know where they?re getting their information from, but it didn?t come from us,? a police spokesman said. But were they talking to someone? Maybe. ?Person of interest? became a phrase of both avoidance and insinuation. On the Atlas Shrugs Web site, there was a note that his name in Arabic meant ?sword.? At an evening press conference, Ed Davis, the police commissioner, said that no suspect was in custody. But that was about when the dogs were in the apartment building in Revere?an inquiry that was seized on by some as, if not an indictment, at least a vindication of their suspicions.
?There must be enough evidence to keep him there,? Andrew Napolitano said on ?Fox and Friends???there? being the hospital. ?They must be learning information which is of a suspicious nature,? Steve Doocy interjected. ?If he was clearly innocent, would they have been able to search his house?? Napolitano thought that a judge would take any reason at a moment like this, but there had to be ?something??maybe he appeared ?deceitful.? As Mediaite pointed out, Megyn Kelly put a slight break on it (as she has been known to do) by asking if there might have been some ?racial profiling,? but then, after a round of speculation about his visa (Napolitano: ?Was he a real student, or was that a front??), she asked, ?What?s the story on his ability to lawyer up??
By Tuesday afternoon, the fever had broken. Report after report said that he was a witness, not a suspect. ?He was just at the wrong place at the wrong time,? a ?U.S. official? told CNN. (So were a lot of people at the marathon.) Even Fox News reported that he?d been ?ruled out.? At a press conference, Governor Deval Patrick spoke, not so obliquely, about being careful not to treat ?categories of people in uncharitable ways.?
We don?t know yet who did this. ?The range of suspects and motives remains wide open,? Richard Deslauriers of the F.B.I. said early Tuesday evening. In a minute, with a claim of responsibility, our expectations could be scrambled. The bombing could, for all we know, be the work of a Saudi man?or an American or an Icelandic or a person from any nation you can think of. It still won?t mean that this Saudi man can be treated the way he was, or that people who love him might have had to find out that a bomb had hit him when his name popped up on the Web as a suspect in custody. It is at these moments that we need to be most careful, not least.
It might be comforting to think of this as a blip, an aberration, something that will be forgotten tomorrow?if not by this young man. There are people at Guan?tanmo who have also been cleared by our own government, and are still there. A new report on the legacy of torture after 9/11, released Tuesday, is a well-timed admonition. The F.B.I. said that they would ?go to the ends of the earth? to get the Boston perpetrators. One wants them to be able to go with their heads held high.
?If you want to know who we are, what America is, how we respond to evil?that?s it. Selflessly. Compassionately. Unafraid,? President Obama said. That was mostly true on Monday; a terrible day, when an eight-year-old boy was killed, his sister maimed, two others dead, and many more in critical condition. And yet, when there was so much to fear that we were so brave about, there was panic about a wounded man barely out of his teens who needed help. We get so close to all that Obama described. What?s missing? Is it humility?
Exactly. Who is "they"? While undoubtedly a cowardly act, it has still yet to be determined who did it.
And how do you know for a fact that "hurting your economy" is their intended goal?
Are these guys one of "them"???
"It might be comforting to think of this as a blip, an aberration, something that will be forgotten tomorrow?if not by this young man. There are people at Guan?tanmo who have also been cleared by our own government, and are still there. A new report on the legacy of torture after 9/11, released Tuesday, is a well-timed admonition."
Peace!
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That shit is crazy... Put that bag right next to those people... How did more not die?
Jarring photos.. The kid is almost smirking as he's runnin away.. Makes my stomach turn.
Some crazy shit going on now in Boston.
http://livewire.wcvb.com/Event/117th_Running_of_Boston_Marathon
No idea if those are two they are looking for but had hand grenades and or IED's.
One officer killed.
http://livewire.wcvb.com/Event/117th_Running_of_Boston_Marathon
No idea if those are two they are looking for but had hand grenades and or IED's.
One officer killed.
