This is Bullshit, how would you like to be FRAMED?
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Eye witness for prosecution !
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This is Bullshit, how would you like to be FRAMED?
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All you Perry Masons out there need to get over yourself, you're not entitled to your OWN FACTS.
TIA
Just so you KNOW
TIA
Just so you KNOW
I have never had my home broken in to and I can't even pretend to imagine how shitty the feeling must be to have your home and family violated in that way. I'm sorry that there are pieces of shit in our world that rob and steal from good hardworking successful people. I think you have the right to protect your home and family by any means necessary when either are being threatened. I hunt, I keep a firearm in my home and I pray that I never have to make a life or death decision. I hate that criminals put good people in situations like this and I am fortunate that I have never been close to having to make that decision.
In your examples, you observed people doing wrong and then acted. They're hauling ass and you react because that is a threat to your children. Suspicion is subjective and in the Trayvon Martin case it was George Zimmerman who made that call. He didn't see Trayvon climbing out of a window or taking something from someone's lawn. He saw a kid in a hoodie. "These assholes. They always get away." Sorry L-Wood, Zimmerman does not get to make this call and he has already convicted Trayvon at this point even though he never saw him do anything illegal, not even speeding.
Zimmerman is armed, pursuing a suspicious teenager in the rain, and he has already called the cops. Trayvon runs, same thing your kids have been instructed to do except he wasn't yelling. Zimmerman is told he does not need to follow him, I get it, he was not told, DO NOT FOLLOW him, but I am telling you that if he had just waited for the police at this point, an unarmed 17 year old black child with Ice Tea and Skittles would not have been shot to death that night. Being burglarized does not justify vigilante homicide.
I have heard other people say, wait and see what comes out in the trial. Even if Trayvon ran ahead and set up an ambush and waited for Zimmerman to walk up and he got the drop on George, isn't this what the stand your ground law was set up for. An armed stranger pursues you on a dark and rainy night. You run but he still follows you. He never yells out that he is part of the neighborhood watch team, he just talks on his phone and follows you. I'd be scared shitless, but maybe Trayvon brought the fight to Zimmerman after he ran off the first time. We know that there was a scuffle and we know that Trayvon busted up George pretty bad. Justifiable homicide perhaps had the earlier events not played out the way they had. In the end, when it comes to George Zimmerman, These assholes. They always get dead.
The actions on the night of the incident are what should be used to determine the outcome of this case.
It's bullshit skul Zimmerman did nothing wrong, if Trayvon was white or Hispanic we would have never heard about the case, I hope he walks and I think he was framed also
You are both a bigot and a fool. Your opinion, like your word, is as worthless around here as it is in your sorry life.
While the majority are blaming one man or the other, it is likely that the actions of both contributed to this incident.
I assume that hedgehog is included in your list of perry masons. Or, are you referring only to those who oppose your position?
CNN Walks It Back: Oops, Zimmerman Didn't Say 'Coon,' He Said It Was 'Cold'!
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<!-- /user-picture --> NBC isn?t the only network slinking away from overcooking the case against George Zimmerman?s alleged racism. On the March 21 edition of Anderson Cooper 360, a CNN audio expert enhanced Zimmerman's 9-1-1 call and suggested he had used a racial slur, "f--ing coon," as he was following Trayvon Martin. Reporter Gary Tuchman asserted: "It certainly sounds like that word to me."
Two weeks later on the same show on April 4, CNN re-assessed the tape with another CNN expert, and now felt it suggests George Zimmerman was just chilly, muttering the words "f--ing cold" under his breath. Tuchman explained: "The reason some say that would be relevant is because it was unseasonably cold in Florida that night and raining." Oopsy. [Video and transcripts below]
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On March 21, Tuchman played up how sophisticated CNN would be in (mis)identifying the racism on this phone call: ?This is room 31 at CNN Center in Atlanta. This is one of the most sophisticated audio edit suites in the broadcast news business. And right here is Rick Sierra. He is our audio design specialist. He's one of the best audio experts in the business.?
The duo found it quite plausible (if not definitive) that the word ?coon? was being used:
GARY TUCHMAN: That does sound a little clearer to me. It sounds like this allegation could be accurate. But I wouldn't swear to it in court. That's what it sounded like to me.
RICK SIERRA: Very difficult to really pinpoint what he is saying.
TUCHMAN: Rick, can we play just that second word where we think the second word is and hear? And hear, if the sound any different.
SIERRA: OK.
TUCHMAN: It certainly sounds like that word to me but you just can't be sure. That sounds even more like the word than using it with the f word before that.
SIERRA: That's correct.
Cooper found it ?fascinating? and turned to legal expert Jeffrey Toobin to announce how important this finding could be: ?It?s extremely, extremely significant because the federal government is not allowed to prosecute just your ordinary every day murder. Two people fighting on the street is not a federal crime. However, if one person shoots another based on racial hostility, racial animus, that does become a federal crime.?
It?s obvious that Eric Holder?s Department of Justice likes to investigate when the ?nation of cowards? is tolerating racism.
Here?s how CNN walked away from that verdict on April 4. Tuchman?s new audio expert is senior audio engineer Brian Stone:
STONE: Right.
TUCHMAN: It sounds like -- and we wanted to leave it up to the viewer -- but it sounds like we're hearing the swear word at first and then the word cold. And the reason some say that would be relevant is because it was unseasonably cold in Florida that night and raining. So that is what some supporters of Zimmerman are saying, that that would make sense if he was saying the word cold.
Once again, Cooper turned to Toobin, who said he, too, had changed his mind: ?This is also a good example of why it's important to take your time. I remember when Gary Tuchman did his first report on it and I sat here with Anderson and I thought I heard C-O-O-N. But this certainly sounds like cold. The FBI has the best enhancement facilities in the world. Again, everybody wants this case to be wrapped up tomorrow. This just shows why it's important to say, let's get all the best evidence we can.?
That?s what many Americans felt on March 21, that it?s important not to rush to judgment. It?s too bad CNN displayed such eagerness. At least now, they?re considering they were wrong.
Oddly, on other CNN programs, they?re declaring the word could be ?punks? instead of ?cold.? With this kind of analysis, if Zimmerman were charged, it would be tough to talk a jury into reading Zimmerman?s mind. CNN can?t seem to do it.
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-gr...nt-say-coon-he-said-it-was-cold#ixzz2XeIgwQjS
Nuff Said
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Why are you posting? Shouldn't you be out looking for another man to protect you in your neighborhood?
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Does not matter who instigated. Yes Zimmerman probly should not of done what he did. BUT, he had the right to defend himself. That is the bottom line.
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Joshnaudi...
Your take is pure bullshit !
The kid was walking thru the back of houses in the pouring rain for christ sake with a BLACK HOODIE over his head....Over 20 mins went by since he left 7-11. He would have been home in 5-10. He noticed GZ checking him out and decided to fuck with him. STILL if he had nothing to hide he should have RAN HIS ASS HOME. Let GZ chase him to his dads house and confront him there where NOTHING WOULD HAVE HAPPENED. HE WOULD BE ALIVE. :nono:
Your take is pure bullshit !
The kid was walking thru the back of houses in the pouring rain for christ sake with a BLACK HOODIE over his head....Over 20 mins went by since he left 7-11. He would have been home in 5-10. He noticed GZ checking him out and decided to fuck with him. STILL if he had nothing to hide he should have RAN HIS ASS HOME. Let GZ chase him to his dads house and confront him there where NOTHING WOULD HAVE HAPPENED. HE WOULD BE ALIVE. :nono:
