This didn't include anything about his house numb nuts. It's not like TM showed up in his living room and Zimm chased him down the block to bust a cap in his azz.
Eye witness for prosecution !
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This didn't include anything about his house numb nuts. It's not like TM showed up in his living room and Zimm chased him down the block to bust a cap in his azz.
hedgey doesnt bother to look up what the thing actually is he just reads somewhere someone said something about it so that is now his opinion.
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You would think he would have learned by now. Every fucking time he is wrong. Every time. Do some fucking research for once before believing garbage you pick up from other bigots.
George Zimmerman Outrage Mounts As 'Stand Your Ground' Law Defends The Unprovoked Attacker
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George Zimmerman Outrage Mounts As 'Stand Your Ground' Law Defends The Unprovoked Attacker
Seventeen-year-old Trayvon Martin was walking back from a convenience store to his father?s home inside a gated community in Sanford, Florida, on February 26, 2012, when a neighborhood watchman, 28-year-old George Zimmerman approached him. Within minutes, Martin was shot and killed. It has been a month since the unarmed Martin was killed, and Zimmerman has not been arrested nor charged with the crime despite confessing to the murder.
This is because Zimmerman is being protected by a Florida law enacted in 2005 titled ?Stand your Ground," which was and remains heavily supported by the National Rifle Association. This law enables a gun owner to use their weapon in self-defense in any public space, if they feel that their safety is threatened, consequently escaping what would?ve been a prosecution for murder prior to the enactment of this law. This expansion of the traditional ?castle doctrine? law, which only legalized the use of gun force in self defense inside one?s home, is now instituted in various forms in 32 states, and has become the subject of a heated debate as many have begun to question how the unarmed Martin could be a threat to Zimmerman.
Tapes released soon after the incident, prove that Zimmerman called 911 to report suspicion of Martin where he said, ?This guy looks like he?s up to no good ... These assholes, they always get away.? He then proceeded to follow and confront Martin against the advice of the 911 operator. Forensic evidence further confirms that Martin was approached from behind.
Statistics show that since ?Stand your Ground? was enforced in Florida in 2005, justifiable homicide rates have jumped from an average of 12 justifiable homicides a year in Florida, to 33. Examples of murders with no evidence of provocation that were protected by this law include an incident in 2006 where a man directed 14 gun shots at a vehicle carrying a gang member, and a 2011 case where a man stabbed another in the head of with an ice pick following a traffic altercation.
The public outrage that followed Martin?s murder has finally prompted the Department of Justice?s Civil Rights Division and the FBI to investigate. This announcement on Monday was soon followed with an announcement that a grand jury will be investigating this murder as well.
So far, the Florida police?s quick resignation to the fact that they have no evidence to dispute Zimmerman?s claims for self defense is one that no longer stands. The 911 tapes demonstrate that Zimmerman decidedly followed Martin and initiated the attack. A testimony from a friend who was talking to Martin on his cell phone at the time also confirms that Martin noticed he was being followed and was uncomfortable, and finally the revelation that Martin was completely unarmed during the attack, carrying only candy and a bottle of iced tea.
Since the attack was unprecedented to such a high degree, evidence easily points to the fact that this murder could be racially motivated. Several murders and attacks that were swept under the rug by both the state and the media have kept us from examining the horrid results of legalizing the use of gun force anywhere at any time with the help of the self defense card. Martin?s untimely death has finally pried this subject open, as we notice that the Stand your Ground law has served to conceal the murders of innocent individuals, and protect aggressive murderers from any charges.
An APOLOGY in order?
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isn't that like 8 haircuts for you ? well done big baller:00hour
castle doctrine and stand your ground are two different things but thanks for playing. one being an extension of the other.
castle doctrine has to do with your own property, like saint pointed out. stand your ground has to do with any place you have the legal right to be.
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hey dumbfucks, stand your ground is an extension of castle doctrine, FYI, I called it castle doctrine because that was the original law
some of you are mental midgets
This expansion of the traditional ?castle doctrine? law
just to let you know
some of you are mental midgets
This expansion of the traditional ?castle doctrine? law
just to let you know
no you didnt. you called it castle doctrine because you didnt know the difference. wouldnt a little basic thinking skills let you draw the conclusion that CASTLE has to do with your home and property?
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FYI you called it castle doctrine because that is what you heard from another moron.
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poon, when i made that comment, i knew you would get it immediately
that was a classic and if you bumped it, no one would fault you
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as soon as i saw hedge starting a post with "hey dumbfucks" i let out a little chuckle
stand your ground is an extension of castle doctrine
its pointless to argue with idiots especially when you are right :sadwave:
All kinds of good shit here - http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/05/us/trayvon-martin-shooting-fast-facts - I'll post all of it below
L-Wood, we're just on different sides of the fence. In more way than 1. I think Silva gets it done this weekend but the price is too high. Hope I never have to go through what you did. Take care man
Trayvon Martin Shooting Fast Facts
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif](CNN) -- Here's a look at what you need to know about the shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in February 2012. Former neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman has been charged in the shooting.
Facts:
Trayvon Benjamin Martin, born February 5, 1995, was a 17-year-old African-American high school student who lived in Miami Gardens, Florida with his mother Sybrina Fulton. In February 2012, Martin was visting his father Tracy Martin in Sanford, Florida after receiving a ten-day suspension from Krop Senior High School. The suspension stemmed from the discovery of drug residue in Martin's book bag.
George Michael Zimmerman, born October 5, 1983, was a part-time student at Seminole State College and a neighborhood watch captain at the Retreat at Twin Lakes gated community in Sanford at the time of the shooting. He is married to Shellie (Dean) Zimmerman and is the son of Robert and Gladys Zimmerman.
Timeline:
[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]February 26, 2012 - George Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch captain in Sanford, Florida, calls 911 to report "a suspicious person"in the neighborhood. He is instructed not to get out of his SUV or approach the person. Zimmerman disregards the instructions. Moments later, neighbors report hearing gunfire. Zimmerman acknowledges that he shot Martin, claiming it was in self-defense. In a police report, Officer Timothy Smith writes that Zimmerman was bleeding from the nose and back of the head.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]February 27, 2012 - Martin's father, Tracy Martin, files a missing persons report. Officers with the Sanford Police Department visit Tracy Martin. He is able to identify Trayvon Martin's body using a photo.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]March 8, 2102 -Investigators receive a fax from the Altamonte Family Practice containing the medical records identifying the injuries sustained by Zimmerman on the night of the shooting: Open wound of scalp, without mention of complication; nasal bones, closed fracture; assault by other specified means.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]March 12, 2012 - Sanford Police Chief Bill Lee says that Zimmerman has not been charged because there are no grounds to disprove his story of the events.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]March 13, 2012 - Sanford Police Department's homicide detective Christopher Serino recommends Zimmerman be charged with manslaughter.
Zimmerman "failed to identify himself" as a concerned citizen or neighborhood watch member on two occasions that night. Serino reports that he thought Zimmerman's head injuries were "marginally consistent with a life-threatening episode, as described by him, during which neither a deadly weapon nor deadly force were deployed by Trayvon Martin."
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]March 14, 2012 - The case is turned over to the Florida State Attorney Norm Wolfinger.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]March 15, 2012 -In a letter to the Orlando Sentinel, Robert Zimmerman, George Zimmerman's father, writes that George has been unfairly portrayed as a racist, and that George is Hispanic and grew up in a multiracial family.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]March 16, 2012 -Authorities release seven 911 calls from the night of the shooting. In one of the 911 recordings, Zimmerman, against the advice of the 911 dispatcher, follows Martin. In one of the recordings, a voice screams "Help, help!" in the background, followed by the sound of a gunshot.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]March 19, 2012 - The Justice Department and the FBI announce that they have launched an investigation into Martin's death.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]March 20, 2012 - A lawyer for the Martin family, Benjamin Crump, holds a news conference, telling reporters that Trayvon was on the phone with his 16-year-old girlfriend at the time of the shooting. The girl, who wishes to remain anonymous, says she heard someone ask Martin what he was doing and heard Martin ask why the person was following him, according to Crump. The girl then got the impression that there was an altercation in which the earpiece fell out of Martin's ear and the connection went dead.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]March 21, 2012 -CNN analyzes one of the tapes of Zimmerman's call to dispatch, in which he is purported to have used a racial slur against blacks. The results are inconclusive.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]March 22, 2012 -A petition on Change.org calling for the arrest of Zimmerman, created by the parents of Trayvon Martin, surpasses 1.3 million people.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]March 22, 2012 - Sanford Police Chief Bill Lee announces he is stepping down "temporarily" as head of the department, which has been criticized for its handling of the fatal shooting.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]March 22, 2012 - Florida Gov. Rick Scott announces he is appointing Angela B. Corey of the 4th Judicial Circuit as state attorney in the investigation, replacing Norman Wolfinger, state attorney for Florida's 18th District, which includes Sanford.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]March 23, 2012 - President Barack Obama speaks out publicly for the first time on the growing controversy over the shooting of Trayvon Martin, saying that the incident requires national "soul-searching."
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]March 24, 2012 -A handful of members from the New Black Panther Party (NBPP) offer a $10,000 reward for the "capture" of George Zimmerman.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]March 26, 2012 -Exactly one month after Trayvon Martin's death, rallies take place in cities across the country, including Sanford, where the City Commission holds a town hall meeting on the incident and its aftermath. Martin's parents speak at the meeting.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]March 28, 2012 - Zimmerman's father, Robert, appears on television and says that Martin threatened to kill Zimmerman and then beat him so badly Zimmerman was forced to shoot.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]March 29, 2012 -Zimmerman's brother, Robert Zimmerman Jr., appears on CNN and says medical records will prove that his brother was attacked and his nose was broken by Trayvon Martin before he fatally shot the teen.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]April 2, 2012 -FBI agents interview Martin's girlfriend, the 16-year-old girl who, phone records show, was on the cell phone with him shortly before the fatal confrontation.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]April 3, 2012 - Zimmerman's legal adviser, Craig Sonner, says that criminal defense lawyer Hal Uhrig will represent Zimmerman and that Sonner will serve as co-counsel if the case proceeds.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]April 7-8, 2012 - George Zimmerman launches a website warning supporters about groups falsely claiming to be raising funds for his defense. The site includes a link through which donations can be made to pay for Zimmerman's lawyers and living expenses.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]April 9, 2012 -Prosecutor Angela Corey announces that she will not present the case to a grand jury.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]April 10, 2012 -Attorneys Hal Uhrig and Craig Sonner announce that they have lost contact with Zimmerman and no longer represent him.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]April 11, 2012 -Zimmerman is charged with second-degree murder. His new lawyer, Mark O'Mara, tells CNN that Zimmerman has turned himself in.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]April 18, 2012 - Seminole Circuit Court Judge Jessica Recksiedler, who was assigned to Zimmerman's case, approves a motion to disqualify herself from the criminal case because her husband works as a CNN legal analyst.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]April 18, 2012 - It is announced that Seminole County Circuit Judge Kenneth Lester Jr. will take over George Zimmerman's case.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]April 20, 2012 -Zimmerman's bond hearing is held. Judge Lester sets Zimmerman's bond at $150,000. During the hearing, Zimmerman apologizes to the family of Trayvon Martin for the loss of their son.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]April 23, 2012 - Zimmerman is released on bail at 12:05 AM. Later in the day, Zimmerman enters a written not guilty plea and waves his right to appear at his arraignment.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]May 8, 2012 -Judge Kenneth Lester accepts Zimmerman's written plea of not guilty.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]May 15, 2012 -A medical report by George Zimmerman's family doctor, taken a day after the February 26 shooting, shows Zimmerman was diagnosed with a fractured nose, two black eyes and two lacerations on the back of his head.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]June 1, 2012 - Judge Kenneth Lester Jr. revokes Zimmerman's bond and orders him to surrender within 48 hours after the prosecution argues that Zimmerman and his wife, Shellie, misrepresented their finances when Zimmerman's bond was originally set in April.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]June 3, 2012 - At 1:45 PM, Zimmerman surrenders to authorities and is taken into custody at the John E. Polk Correctional Facility in Seminole County.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]June 12, 2012 -George Zimmerman's wife Shellie is arrested and charged with perjury.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]June 18, 2012 - Audio of six phone calls between Zimmerman and his wife Shellie are released, along with bank statements.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]June 20, 2012 - Sanford Police Chief Bill Lee is officially fired.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]June 25, 2012 -Zimmerman's attorney files a motion requesting a "reasonable bond" be set for Zimmerman's release from jail.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]July 5, 2012 - The judge sets Zimmerman's bond at $1 million.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]July 6, 2012 - Zimmerman is released from jail after posting the required 10% of the $1 million bond ($100,000).
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]July 13, 2012 -Zimmerman's legal team files a motion requesting Judge Lester step down from the case. The motion claims Zimmerman cannot get a fair trial because Lester used "gratuitous, disparaging" language in the previous week's bail order.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]July 18, 2012 - Zimmerman, appearing on Fox News "Hannity" show, does his first television interview since the shooting. He says he would not do anything differently.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]August 9, 2012 - A photo of Trayvon Martin's body and George Zimmerman's school records are mistakenly released by prosecutors. Special Prosecutor Angela Corey's office issues a statement asking reporters to "please disregard and do not use the information contained in the initial e-mail. It was inadvertently attached."
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]August 13, 2012 -George Zimmerman appeals Judge Lester's refusal to recuse himself with the Fifth District Court of Appeals.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]August 29, 2012 -A Florida appeals court grants Zimmerman's request for a new judge, saying Judge Kenneth Lester's remarks in a bail order put Zimmerman in reasonable fear of a fair trial.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]August 30, 2012 -Judge Debra Nelson is assigned to replace Judge Kenneth Lester in the case of George Zimmerman.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]December 7, 2012 - Zimmerman sues NBC Universal for allegedly editing the 911 call he placed on the night of the tragic event. He states in the lawsuit that NBC unfairly made it appear that "Zimmerman was a racist, and that he was racially profiling Trayvon Martin".
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]February 9, 2013 - The Justice for Trayvon Martin Foundation hosts a "Day of Remembrance Community Peace Walk and Forum" in Miami. It takes place four days after what would have been Martin's 18th birthday.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]March 5, 2013 -Trayvon Martin's girlfriend, known as Civilian Witness 8, who was on the phone with Martin the night of his death, admits that she lied under oath when she told court prosecutors that she was in the hospital on the day of Martin's funeral.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]March 5, 2013 -Lawyer Mark O'Mara decides against seeking a pretrial Stand your Ground immunity hearing for George Zimmerman citing lack of preparation time.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]April 5, 2013 -Martin's parents settle a wrongful-death claim against the homeowners association of the Florida subdivision where their son was killed.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]April 30, 2013 - George Zimmerman waives his right to a "stand your ground" pretrial immunity hearing. Zimmerman's attorneys decide they will instead try this as a self-defense case. If Zimmerman had had a pretrial immunity hearing, a judge would have ruled whether his actions were protected under the "stand your ground" law. If the judge had ruled in favor of Zimmerman, it would have meant that no criminal or civil trial could proceed.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]May 28, 2013 - Judge Debra Nelson rules on several motions brought by the defense. Nelson rules that Trayvon Martin's familiarity with guns, his marijuana use, and fights he may have been in cannot be brought up in Zimmerman's trial. She also denies a request to take the jury to the crime scene. Nelson, however, rules that jurors will remain anonymous and will be referred to by numbers only.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]June 20, 2013 - An all-female jury is selected.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Utkal, sans-serif]June 24, 2013 - The trial begins with openings statements.
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Josh, I know we are but just so you know I don't like that the kid is dead and wish it wouldn't have happened.
This is actually the second time I've had my place broken into. The first time was in college and they took everything but for some reason that didn't mess with me. Having kids and a wife that were scared because of it changed everything. Heck, my wife swore we would never have a dog and now we have an overgrown 85lb boxer.
One thing that your timeline didn't mention is that when they went to his locker at school they found quite a bit of womens jewelry in it. "Most" 17 year old kids at school don't have a backpack with womens jewelry in it. Makes you wonder where it came from?
For the record, I think Anderson will win but like you said the price is too steep so I'm going the other way just for the value.
