fagman republicans continue assault on elderly and middle class

Mags

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Mags you crack me up. You say $250k isn't much money, but somebody making one fifth that is rich. To me one fifth of not that much would be poverty.

PD1 - your message was somewhat unclear. "but somebody making one fifth that is rich".

Are you really saying that a family with a household income of 20% of $250K - $50K - is rich?
 

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Mags you crack me up. You say $250k isn't much money, but somebody making one fifth that is rich. To me one fifth of not that much would be poverty.

FYI - you are changing what I said. I said that families making $250K are not in the hated Democratic financial category of "millionaries and billionaires". Not even close.

I doubt that any billionaires got there by making $250K a year for their family.....In fact, it is pretty much mathematically impossible.
 

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FYI - you are changing what I said. I said that families making $250K are not in the hated Democratic financial category of "millionaries and billionaires". Not even close.

I doubt that any billionaires got there by making $250K a year for their family.....In fact, it is pretty much mathematically impossible.

Mags I agree $250k is not that much money. Its just you were so overjoyed when a teacher making 1/5 that started having to pay more taxes. Chances are both have families, house payments, and children. Yet one is trying to do it on 1/5 the income and you were tickled pink the way it turned out.
 

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Mags I agree $250k is not that much money. Its just you were so overjoyed when a teacher making 1/5 that started having to pay more taxes. Chances are both have families, house payments, and children. Yet one is trying to do it on 1/5 the income and you were tickled pink the way it turned out.

Pd1 - again, you are twisting words and intent. Yes, I was happy that the changes went through in WI. Two reasons - state budget, which will now be balanced for the next 3 years, for the first time in 8 years (last 8 were with a Dem Governor - big surprise).

Most importantly, I strongly felt that public employees should not receive pay/benefits higher than similiar positions in the private sector - especially when people in the private sector are hurting with layoffs and all. Why should taxpayers pay bloated salaries/benefit packages when they are not getting those same packages in the private market? It doesn't make any sense.
 

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Eludes,

Care to explain the tiltle in your thread the useage of Fagmen? :shrug:

Where are the sharks not attacking this?
 
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Don't hate the rich for being rich. Aspire to join their ranks.

However, I agree that taxes should be raised on the uber-elites. However, since the politicians are all in the back pockets of the uber-elite, I doubt it happens.

Flat tax - across the board with a luxury tax. Best, easiest and fairest way. Plus, much harder to scam the system.

More than enough tax revenue is already collected. HOW it is apportioned is the problem.

Vote Governor Gary Johnson.


on other fronts - Greece secures it's new bailout (#2 for them in 2 years) if they can pass the new 5-yr austerity measures. WOW - what a great deal (insert sarcasm here).

Now Europe is playing kick the can down the road just as we are in the US.

What happens in 5 years when they still can't pay?

Why don't they just amortize the entire world's debt out to 150 years in the future, write it off the books until then and let everyone have a great big spending orgy?

Fricking joke. And these 'leaders' are supposed to be the best and brightest in the world?

Seriously, I'd like to make each of them run a lemonade stand for one summer, working under a budget and see how many of them fail.
 

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Flat tax - across the board with a luxury tax. Best, easiest and fairest way. Plus, much harder to scam the system.

Never really understood the concept of the a luxury tax. First we tax the uber rich at a higher rate (granted, it should be higher than it is now for those making $1M or more - a new bracket).

But then we punish them again by applying extra taxes when they spend the money on luxury goods??? Would we better off if those folks did not spend the money and kept it in their pocket?

Wouldn't we be better off incenting rather than dis-incenting the uber rich to spend their money?
 

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flat tax - everyone paying, saying 12%, across the board.

Luxury tax will tax consumption. Rich people spend more so will pay more.

Steve Forbes, former presidential candidate is a strong proponent of a flat tax. Google him + flat tax and you can see his proposals.
 

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Never really understood the concept of the a luxury tax. First we tax the uber rich at a higher rate (granted, it should be higher than it is now for those making $1M or more - a new bracket).

But then we punish them again by applying extra taxes when they spend the money on luxury goods??? Would we better off if those folks did not spend the money and kept it in their pocket?

Wouldn't we be better off incenting rather than dis-incenting the uber rich to spend their money?

The uber-rich spend anyway.
 

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flat tax - everyone paying, saying 12%, across the board.

Luxury tax will tax consumption. Rich people spend more so will pay more.

Steve Forbes, former presidential candidate is a strong proponent of a flat tax. Google him + flat tax and you can see his proposals.

I like it, and I believe those who say this would help make government more efficient going forward.....
 

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The problem is, Obama wants to go after those who make $250K a year - which clearly isn't the "millionaires and billionaires".

You're a moron Maggot. Anyone who earns $250K plus and isn't a millionaire within a few years is also a moron.:facepalm:

Hell, I'm a millionaire, and I only had $250K income in one year. Most years a good deal less than 250.
 

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You're a moron Maggot. Anyone who earns $250K plus and isn't a millionaire within a few years is also a moron.:facepalm:

Hell, I'm a millionaire, and I only had $250K income in one year. Most years a good deal less than 250.

You can't even reply once without name calling?

No wonder most folks discount whatever you have to say.

Please don't respond to my posts and I won't bring you up in them. I'll do the same for you.

You are not worth the hassle and clearly are not what I'd call a good person.

Thanks!
 

Duff Miver

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You can't even reply once without name calling?

No wonder most folks discount whatever you have to say.

Please don't respond to my posts and I won't bring you up in them. I'll do the same for you.

You are not worth the hassle and clearly are not what I'd call a good person.

Thanks!

Oh me! Oh my! Maggot would not call me a good person. I'm absolutely devastated.

Boo-hoo. Sniffle.

Tell you what, Maggot. I'll stop calling you an idiot, moron, fool, dolt and coward just as soon as you stop being those things.

Who knows, Maggot,,,if you learn to post facts, truth and common sense, maybe you'll get some of those cute little green squares. Saaay, did you ever get any gold stars in grammar school? :mj07:
 

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But then we punish them again by applying extra taxes when they spend the money on luxury goods??? Would we better off if those folks did not spend the money and kept it in their pocket?

Wouldn't we be better off incenting rather than dis-incenting the uber rich to spend their money?

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This is exactly the conservative view spoken ad nausem

why do you give two shits about these rich fawkers.

They have found ways to fawk the system for years. They are worse than the welfare cheaters who also find a way around the system to get paid.

Stick the dis centing up a elephants ass.

These ppl wipe their ass with 100 dollar bills.

You cant dis enchant them. They dont give a shit what they have to pay. They are going to do what they want when they want no matter what tax they are charged. They make the GOP think its a big issue for them , by threatening them on very powerful levels. And the GOP dont like that as they need their silver linings .

I just puked in my mouth a little.
 
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The problem is, Obama wants to go after those who make $250K a year - which clearly isn't the "millionaires and billionaires".

Once they attack the $250K, which is effectively upper middle class in some areas of our country, their message falls flat.

PD1 was right on target, Mags.

You defend those making $250K per year as poor over-taxed upper middle-class Americans while you taunt and ridicule $47K teachers as overpaid, spoiled and protected by their unions.

And you wonder why you have no credibility in this forum? :shrug:
 

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PD1 was right on target, Mags.

You defend those making $250K per year as poor over-taxed upper middle-class Americans while you taunt and ridicule $47K teachers as overpaid, spoiled and protected by their unions.

And you wonder why you have no credibility in this forum? :shrug:

I understood what he said and so did you.

JMHO.

:nono:

Most importantly, I strongly felt that public employees should not receive pay/benefits higher than similiar positions in the private sector - especially when people in the private sector are hurting with layoffs and all. Why should taxpayers pay bloated salaries/benefit packages when they are not getting those same packages in the private market? It doesn't make any sense
 

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I understood what he said and so did you.

JMHO.

:nono:

Most importantly, I strongly felt that public employees should not receive pay/benefits higher than similiar positions in the private sector - especially when people in the private sector are hurting with layoffs and all. Why should taxpayers pay bloated salaries/benefit packages when they are not getting those same packages in the private market? It doesn't make any sense
I retract my statement, Mags.

You have credibility with Skulnik... :0074
 

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You're a moron Maggot. Anyone who earns $250K plus and isn't a millionaire within a few years is also a moron.:facepalm:

Hell, I'm a millionaire, and I only had $250K income in one year. Most years a good deal less than 250.

Duff, if you`re over 19 yrs old i`ll kiss your ass.

:jerkit:
 
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