For all the weight trainers out there - ADVICE!

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Buy some Cytogainer
increase your calorie intake (quality calories)
sleep 7.5 -9.5 hrs a day
Do high reps 10-12 per set
eat 6 small meals per day
(must take vitamins +minerals)
follow and grow like a mutant
 

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I almost forgot...

I almost forgot...

ALthough I focused on the quds in the above theory..please remember for whatever body part/side you do, make sure you do the other side as well. QUite a few of our muscles are antagonistic..meaning while one works the other rests. Flex your quds, your hammies are at rest..fle your hammies..your quads are at rest. Same action as your biceps/triceps.

SO if it is a quad day, also do the hammies...
 

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Thanks Dog, lots off good info!!

Thanks everyone!

Hey Dog,

If I buy the supplemets with tons of proteins and calories - will that be to much for me to begin with?

I probably will eat a lot of protien/calories from foods to get myslef going with eating then use the cytogainer or whatever.??

Thanks!!

DJ
 

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You ask some good questions....

You ask some good questions....

What is your weight and dimensions now? What are your goals...This does't have to be shared here... but realistically thin kof what you want to accomplish before you set out to do it...Don't think this has been mentioned. Getting bigger is different for all of us: Is 2 inches in your bi/tri area bigger. Is gaining 5-10 lbs of lean muscle getting bigger? Do you want to be ripped (striations of muscle showing through skin?) All of those shpould be answered...

If you need a supplement, and most DO NOT need them go with any pure whey protein component with a mixture of carbs for increased calories and energy for tough workouts. I mean tough workouts....no I lifted 20 lbs today, I am done. THen the gain will be fat...use the claories to gain muscle mass, not fat. Again I stresss that most of these expensive weight gain formulas are not needed, and may or may not give you an expensive placebo affect. (Meaning same results would happen as if taking nothing, but when it is perceived it would help you it tends to because of a focus and other attributes)

The ony thing that has been proven outside of steroids...and I did my research paper on this is Creatng Monohydrate....essentially pure creatine. It is found in small quantities in red meat, and is currenly in our muscles now. Here is what creatine does (short version) Creatine draws water out of your system on an intracellulare level into your muscle cells. Thus causing them to grow, and become harder. Through this process it has shown gains of 5-7 lbs of lean muscle mass within a two week period in anyone that trains hard. (Meaning like the workout I specified above) It also will increase your cardiovascular ability slightly by increasing oxygen transport into the cells, as well as other nutirents. That's it in a nutchell.

Are there drawbacks...so far the only drawback that has not been proven clinically...but it does make sense and has been heard as a common denominator in elite athletes...is that cramping may occur due to dehydration. We are nottalking dehydration as with what is happening on the NFL level with heat involved...but drawing water out of your system into a cell, tends to take water out of the blood stream and cramping may occur. I suggest taking at least the 10 glasses of water a day theory and you will not have any of this occur.

My wife who is very lean, gained 4 lbs within a 14 day period on cresatine monohydrate and her you could really see the striations in her muscles form the intense workouts and the gain.

Do not, and I repeat do not follow hte labels of the creatine manufacturers. Follow this method:

Load up on creatine first: that mans for the first 3 days of "loading" take 4-6 grams of creatine a day. 3 tablespoons I believe. This wil insure that your system has the maximum amound of creatine in your system, for best results.

Then only take 2 grams a day afterwords. Essentially one tablespoon. The reasoning is simple, your body can only assimilate 2 grams of creatine a day,,,thats it...anything else is a waste product and will be excreted. That's the ply form the companies..use 3 tablespons 4x a day blah blah blah. Not necessary, especailly since you know now that yor body can only go through 2 grams a day.


When shopping you will see many forums, serums, powders, jellies etc...powder being the chepaest fo rthe amount you get...I suggest that...the other's will say it gets into your sytem quicker...it tyoically won't because it all has to enter your bodies first pass metabolism anyways before it is passed on into circulation so don't listen to the claims. I will admit the powder leaves a chalky taste and does not blend will..suggestion is to use a juice and a banana mixed with the creating. Of course this is your choice.

Good luck!
 
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Dog -

WOW nice info!

OK I can share my goals

NO I dont not want creatine, so I will stay away from that, I think I will stick to protein bars to start

I weigh 127 lbs and of course need to gain weight and muscle mass.

I am going to start to eat lots of carbs and protiens to start AND do some intesne workouts. I can life up to 140 lbs now which is above my weight. I workout until my muscles can not handle it anymore which has made my muscles a lot bigger.

MY goal is to gain weight then convert that to muscle to look bigger, I am sick of being skinny.

I am 5'4 in height to.

SO DOG what are some good foods to get me started that have good carbs and proteins, but not to much to start?

Thanks you have been a HUGE help!!
 

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Here you go...

Here you go...

This is real simple"

Proteins: Red meat, TUNA, Lima, Kidney Beans, Turkey, Chicken breasts. (Everything is lean and by hte leaqn red meat if that is your choice)

Carbos: Pasta, Potatoes, Breads, Grains, Load on up!

Of course make sure you you use your veggies and fruits, and drinlk a good amount of milk as well. ANoter great source of vital nutirents.

I don't know if this was asked...but how old are you? Reson for asking if you are still growing...a tough workout plan may not be best for you Moderate workouts are ok, intense workouts I would shy away from. Strengthe traiing on an intense level may hamper your growth!
 

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OK Dog I am Italian so already eat tons of pasta, but I will double the load LOL!!

I am 21 years of age, is this ok to go ahead with some intensity?

Again thanks for the help!!
 

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OK DOG I will keep you updated!

OK ALSO I talked to the weight trainer in the gym today and I talked to him about doing intense workouts and here is what he said..

He told me to do 8-10 reps of heavy weights and not do intense workouts because of my motabolism, He said to take protein shakes not a big deal, so does that sound good?

I am doing legs tommorow and will do what you said in the above and see how it works out!!!

DJ
 

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2 more questions LOL

Are protein shakes bad for your body later on??

Also want to work my abs to get a "six pack" what is the best way to do it or a good plan to get those going thanks guys!!

DJ
 

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try weight grainer , its a powder and you mix it , and then you drink it:)
 

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listen to dogface on the food , he know
more than me on the food part:cool:
gl thanks for helping him out dogface;)

ps sorry about my spelling , drop out of school in 8 grade:mad:
 

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DJTranks said:
OK DOG I will keep you updated!

OK ALSO I talked to the weight trainer in the gym today and I talked to him about doing intense workouts and here is what he said..

He told me to do 8-10 reps of heavy weights and not do intense workouts because of my motabolism, He said to take protein shakes not a big deal, so does that sound good?

DJ

Not w\quite sure we have the same definition of "Intense" workouts as your trainer....but with a high metabolism most trainers will tell you to stay away from alot of the cardio activity including circuit training due to your amchine (body) being so efficient at breaking down and buring fuel.

By intense I meant doing my drop setting and using heavier weights. Because of the strength added and the muscle gained, it tends to tighten up ligaments attached to bone, and prohibits some of your height in the growth stage. (I assume you are close to done growing, although you could have a spurt within the years or so.) You doctor could explore and say that you are indeed done...that would be my assumption. THe good thing about being 5' 4" it is easier to add muscular bulk onto that frame because of a shorter range of motion...vs someone my size and taller. I am 5' 3" and I believe Raymond is 6' 4" or so (not sure) so anyone with height can attest to that fact. SO you are in a good situation.

Will protein shakes hurt you in the future...no...just extra calories and out of pocket expense.

Creatine for the money is the absolute best choice IMO. Safe and really is natural.

Apply that workout method to all body parts with one caveat..you will be in pain! It eases the 2nd week when you work out those muscles again, and by the third week you would have sent a serious message to your muscles, and they will respond. One thing I may have forgotten to add, when you get down to the lower weights on your drop setting let's say form 50lbs to below pon your legs....do them in rapid succession. You wil be amazed at how few you can do, and you should look at the weight and be in total awe that you are having a hard time moving it...especialy whne you get down to no weight attached...it's mind game but you will be amazed at how few you can do!

GLTU!!!

ALmost forgot your abs.... 6-packs and calves are two of the most areas affected by genetics, some have and some don't. I don't have calved...I could dunk in 9th grade and they are strong as heck...but size is not going to come to me. They sit high on the lower leg right under the knee...similiar two basketball players. Mostly consist of white muscle cells, vs. red muscle cells. Also known as quick twitch (white) and slow twitch (red) these cells repsresent short term explosives ness and quickeness, (WHite or quick) while red are considered (endurance muscles or slow)

Back to your abs, the only way to attempt to get a six pacl wqithout being genetically inclined is to add weight to your crunches, and I highly recommend handing "V" ups for you to aspire to in the future. Nedd incredibly strong abs and back for those). Most people make mistakes when the do crunches or situps and that is they fire their hip flexors to bring your torso up, focus on the muscle you want to use (loosen the legs and have your ankles dangle in air with no pressure on anything) I good rule of thumb while lying down doing crunches:

1) Lay flat with legs bent at the knee 45 degrees resting on a bench or in air (advanced)

2) Grasp hands in front of your face while looking like you are grabbing and hugging a beach ball. (Elblows slighlyt bent and a beachball should be able to fir in between your clasped hands and your chest.

3) WIth your chin pointing towards the sky sue your crunches, do not bring chin down or in, and focus on using your abs to pull you up. Close your eyes and focus quitely you will feel your individula muscles at work. Also do not be shy of a mirror while workoing out, it is a great trainer for techniuque and motivator of the mind!

GL to you!
 
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I actually own a Proshop in a fitness club here in T.O area.
I deal with all the supplements out there and trust me there are many.

The training portion has pretty much been covered by the rest of the guys here.

Supplement wise I would start off with a good mutli-vitamin, and B-complex with C. I would also suggest taking whey protein shake to go along with your diet.
Most people don't eat enough protein with regular lives, so if your going to put your body through the stress of weight training you must replenish it. That's where the whey protein powder comes in handy. It is absorbed quickly so you are feeding your muscles right away.

That is all I would suggest for now.

Maybe talking to some of the guys at the gym might help you filter thru all the other products out there.

Oh ya if you decide on a weight gain powder find one with whey protein that way you get quality protein and not just the extra calories.



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OK Dogface I see what your saying, will def try that tommorow when doing legs,

thanks guys!!
 

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short men with shorter arms have a better bench press:) bigger men with long arms do not have a stong bench:p
 
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