found rolex problem...

tpaine07

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So I decided I'd post this to ask you guys what you think about this situation.

My gf works at a local upscale mall, one of the girls that works with her found a rolex in the bathroom thats apparently worth about $6800... The girl who found it I guess is a huge idiot and said she'd sell it to my girlfriend if she wanted it for $200. My gf is sure its not fake and they both went to one of the watch stores in the mall and saw the same watch (thats how they found out the price).

I was wondering what you guys think about the situation. My gf feels kinda bad if she were to buy this from her, but the girl has no intentions of turning it in or whatever.

Personally, I told her I wouldn't do it... Is there a way she could get into trouble for buying it off this girl If she chose this?


Sorry for the stupid post, just curious to everyones thoughts. If it were me who found it, I'd somehow try to get it back to the owner. Probably would get a solid reward and some major karma points.
 

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the girl that found it went to the store with your gf and saw the 6800 price tag and still wants to sell it to you gf for 200?
 

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Buy the Rolex from the idiot selling it for $200.00. Take out an ad or post signs at the mall(maybe near that bathroom) saying you found it. Anyone calls, they have to identify it or even better, bring the Rolex box to you that has the certificate of authenticity and the serial number. Keep all receipts for the ads and paper for the signs. If this person calls, tell them what you're out of pocket, including the $200.00. I'm sure they will gladly reimburse you and give you a nice reward( I know I would). If nobody calls by Christmas, you got a Hell of a deal.

Do the right thing. It's Christmas time. Who knows, you might end up on the news and then on Letterman for being such a great guy.

Good luck.


nole
 
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Buy the Rolex from the idiot selling it for $200.00. Take out and ad or post signs at the mall(maybe near that bathroom) saying you found it. Anyone calls, they have to identify it or even better, bring the Rolex box to you that has the certificate of authenticity and the serial number. Keep all receipts for the ads and paper for the signs. If this person calls, tell them what you're out of pocket, including the $200.00. I'm sure they will gladly reimburse you and give you a nice reward( I know I would). If nobody calls by Christmas, you got a Hell of a deal.

Do the right thing. It's Christmas time. Who knows, you might end up on the news and then on Letterman for being such a great guy.

Good luck.


nole



I was thinking something along the same lines of that. Posting signs in the bathroom and making them identify the rolex, but I wasnt sure how it would work. Showing reciept/describing in great detail is a great idea, thanks alot. Definetly sounds like the best way to go.
 

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Buy the Rolex from the idiot selling it for $200.00. Take out and ad or post signs at the mall(maybe near that bathroom) saying you found it. Anyone calls, they have to identify it or even better, bring the Rolex box to you that has the certificate of authenticity and the serial number. Keep all receipts for the ads and paper for the signs. If this person calls, tell them what you're out of pocket, including the $200.00. I'm sure they will gladly reimburse you and give you a nice reward( I know I would). If nobody calls by Christmas, you got a Hell of a deal.

Do the right thing. It's Christmas time. Who knows, you might end up on the news and then on Letterman for being such a great guy.

Good luck.


nole

AGREED
 

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Yea, she found it.:rolleyes:

She stole the f ucker, thats what she did.

I would walk away if you are looking to buy it and resell for money.

If you want to buy it and wear it, go ahead!
 

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The way the story usually goes turns out that it is either stolen, but more than likely a fake. There are some high quality japanese that look and feel like a rolex, but are not.

Here are some ways to tell if it is a fake. Sorry couldn't paste the pics in, but you can google it and find the same article I posted here.

CLEAR CASEBACKS... Probably one of the easiest ways to identify a fake Rolex is by the caseback. Counterfeiters will often use a clear display, or "skeleton" caseback, thus allowing you to view the inner workings of the watch. The problem is Rolex does not make such a watch, therefore, these models are easily identified as counterfeit. (Please Note: There are only 2 "known" examples of Rolex watches with glass "exhibition backs", and they are both vintage manual wind models from the 1930s, and they were not "production" models.)



ENGRAVED CASEBACKS... In addition to the "clear casebacks" listed above, engraved casebacks are another easy way to identify counterfeit Rolex watches. Again, Rolex does not engrave the caseback with logos, hallmarks, or designs (as shown in the example above). Genuine Rolex models will have a "smooth" caseback, and are free of these engravings.
The rare exceptions to this are ladies' models (prior to the mid 1990's) which had "Original Rolex Design" or a similar variation thereof, engraved on the caseback in an arc fashion. Another exception is on the Sea-Dweller case backs which will have "ROLEX OYSTER ORIGINAL GAS ESCAPE VALVE" engraved around the outside of the caseback in an arc fashion.




HOLOGRAM STICKERS... Genuine Rolex models are shipped new from the factory with a Hologram-encoded (3-dimensional) sticker on the caseback. This sticker features the trademarked Rolex "crown" positioned above the watch's case reference number. The hologram can be easily identified by viewing it from different angles, thus causing the background pattern to change.
However, "most" counterfeit stickers are not holograms at all, but rather simply a repetitious "Rolex" pattern which does not change in appearance when viewed from different angles. It is worth mentioning that the genuine Rolex hologram stickers did not feature the "crown logo" as a part of the hologram until (around) 2002, when the sticker was redesigned. At that time, the Reference number was also changed from gold lettering to black, as it is currently.


This is the easiest way to tell the difference, most fakes do not have the hologram sticker on it.


DATE MAGNIFICATION... For authentic Rolexes, the crystal (on all current date models--excluding the Sea-Dweller) will have a glass bubble, or "cyclops" attached to the crystal, positioned over the date. Its purpose is to magnify the tiny aperture and does so at 2.5 times magnification.
However, on MOST counterfiet models the date magnification is more like 1.5 times, at best (as shown in the example above). This may not sound like much of a difference, but when looking at the dates side-by-side it's obvious. The date window should practically "fill up" the cyclops--the fakes don't even come close. It is worth mentioning that some counterfeits are now featuring a new larger font date wheel to give the "illusion" of being magnified at a full 2.5 times.




TRIPLOCK CROWN SEAL... Rolex models featuring the Triplock crown (i.e. Submariner, Sea-Dweller and Daytona) utilize an extra seal within the threads of the winding crown's tube. This gasket resembles a black o-ring and can be visible when the winding crown is unscrewed fully. As shown in the example above, (most) counterfeit models will not feature this o-ring seal, but rather will have basic screw-down threads. It is worth mentioning that some new counterfeits will feature a "similar" looking rubber seal, but upon closer examination you will see that it is merely cosmetic, and is not functional.
As shown in the image below, the Triplock crown can be identified by 3 tiny dots positioned under the trademarked Rolex "crown" logo, which is engraved on the end on the winding crown.






YACHT-MASTER "MINUTE" HAND... Genuine Rolex Yacht-Master models feature a "minute" hand which is considerably thicker than those on other Rolex sports models. However, to save money, counterfeiters will often use the same hands found on the Submariner. This can be easily identified when viewed side-by-side (as shown in the example above).



DAYTONA HANDS... Counterfeiters will often use hands which are of the wrong size and/or shape. In the example shown above, the genuine Daytona features a "minute" hand which reaches all the way to the outer "hash" marks. However, the counterfeit model shown features much shorter hands. This is often the case because counterfeiters use whatever stock of parts they have available, which is usually whatever is the cheapest.
You will also note that the "shape" of the hands on the counterfeit is incorrect. modern Daytona models feature hands which are "rounded" on the tips. Again, counterfeiters will often use whatever hands they have available, and in this case they have used hands from a Day-Date model, which are flat on the tip.




DAYTONA REGISTERS... Genuine Rolex Daytona models feature mini-registers on the dial which perform Chronograph "stop watch" functions (i.e. elapsed hours and minutes). It is also worth mentioning that the large "sweep" hand on the dial is also part of the stop watch function, and is not the primary second hand-- the second hand for the watch is the small 20/40/60 register.
However, counterfeit models will rarely perform these functions, but rather will be used for "day of week", "date", and "24-hour time". (Please Note: not all counterfeit models will be "printed" with these incorrect functions, but their operations will still be incorrect.)

Furthermore, the size and position of these mini registers will often be incorrect on counterfeits. As shown in the example above, the counterfeit model features much smaller registers which are positioned too far inward on the dial, while the genuine Daytona features registers which are positioned much farther outward--almost touching the 3-6-9 hour markers.


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Identification of the GENUINE "micro-etched crystal".
Above: A close-up view of the etching on a genuine Rolex Explorer.
Below (left): The etching as it appears on the crystal of a counterfeit Rolex Submariner.
HINT: It's just barely visible below the "SWISS MADE" on the dial.
Below (right): A close-up view of the same etching..


You will notice that the fake etching is "similar" to that in the genuine example,
the biggest difference being that the "balls" on the tips of the fake are too small.



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MICRO-ETCHED CRYSTAL... Brand new for 2002, Rolex has started micro-etching a tiny "coronet" (or crown) logo into the crystal, at the 6 o'clock position. This mark is quite small, so it is difficult to see with the naked eye. However, when viewed under a loupe, the faint outline can be distinguished, as seen in the examples above. (Please excuse the poor quality pics... the only thing more difficult than locating the etching is photographing it.)
(Please Note: Rolex has just started phasing-in this micro-etching process and, to date, not all models have the etching. It is believed that the etching should appear on most (if not all) new models produced by the end of 2003, or early 2004.)



CASE REFERENCE NUMBERS... Probably the most accurate way to identify a genuine/counterfeit Rolex watch is by locating the Serial and Case Reference Numbers. These special identification numbers are engraved on the side of the case, located between the lugs (as shown in the example above).
As you can see in the examples above, the engraving between the lugs of a genuine Rolex feature very fine lines, which actually catch the light similar to that of a diamond cut edge. However, (some) counterfeits will feature a sandy (acid) etched appearance, as seen in the example above. Furthermore, the spacing on these numbers is often too close together. It is worth mentioning that counterfeiters frequently use the SAME numbers on their watches. Thus, the example shown above: "R863698" is seen quite often, and is a pretty good sign of a fake.




My advice is to take it to another watch repair place. You need special tools to open a rolex watch. So if they can open with a regular watch tool, then again a fake.

Believe me on the hot/black market a real rolex would go for more than 2bills. So that is why I am leaning towards the fake side of the equation. But I would pass on the deal in the end.
 

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Buy the Rolex from the idiot selling it for $200.00. Take out an ad or post signs at the mall(maybe near that bathroom) saying you found it. Anyone calls, they have to identify it or even better, bring the Rolex box to you that has the certificate of authenticity and the serial number. Keep all receipts for the ads and paper for the signs. If this person calls, tell them what you're out of pocket, including the $200.00. I'm sure they will gladly reimburse you and give you a nice reward( I know I would). If nobody calls by Christmas, you got a Hell of a deal.

Do the right thing. It's Christmas time. Who knows, you might end up on the news and then on Letterman for being such a great guy.

Good luck.


nole

agreed
 

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Well i have always been of the opinion that if someone can afford a watch like that , well then they can afford to replace it.

keep it and sell on e-bay, trust me u the girl or both can use the money more than a fool that pays that damn much for a watch anyway.

why in the hell do people but expensive shit like that , i will never now. watches , sunglasses etc.

all shit that i myself end up breaking or losing in 6 months anyhow.
 

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thats what i was thinking :com:

Me to and if this is true nothing good is gonna come out of this because she probably will get caught in the long run and then you will be dragged into it and you might have sold it already. Why hasn't anyone shown up to ask if anyone has seen it? I know i would be back tracking my steps. Then again 7 grand to me is like a quarter to some guys. Maybe buy it and sit on it for a year. This way if you get dragged into it you still have it and you can bullshit your way out of it.
 

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Update...

She ended up buying it from the trashy girl who had no thoughts to attempt to return it to the owner. She posted some signs in the bathroom... called the police and mall to see if anyone had reported it missing but nothing yet. Shes actually kind of stressed out about the situation, but I just told her it's better than you bought it and are actually trying to find the owner than for the stupid girl who would have just eventually found out what its worth and probably pawned it off.


Apparently these watched have serial numbers, so I told her to goto a watch place and have them look up the owner, but she thinks they wouldn't give her the info and would report it stolen or something


P.S. she didnt steal it, lol.
 
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