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Spurs

The Spurs have just two more games remaining on their road trip before they go back to Texas for a long homestand. In their last ten road games, they are 9-1 SU (+8.8) and 6-4 ATS, including winning their last 5 (4 of which were against opponents with winning records). I think they would like to finish this road trip strong. This portion of the season is important. It is demoralizing to other teams that may be future playoff foes to beat them on their home court.

Teams playing their third game in four days at home as a dog against a conference opponent are 16-53 SU (-8 ppg) and 24-44-1 ATS when their last game was at home and their opponent is coming off a road game. Since the 2004 season, teams coming off a 15+ point win are 42-31 SU and 45-27 ATS when they average more than 102 points per game and their opponent gives up between 98 and 102 points per game, when the line is between -3 and 3. Teams playing on the road as a favorite coming off a road win when they were winning the game by 15 or more at halftime are 34-13 SU (+5.4) and 26-17 ATS when their opponent is also coming off a win. When the game went over the total, in this same situation teams are 17-5 SU (+7.6) and 14-6 ATS. In other words, they are clicking offensively and their opponent probably isn't going to do much to stop that.

Since the 2008 season, the Spurs are 15-0 SU (+15.3) and 11-4 ATS against the Warriors, averaging 112.3 points against them and beating them by an average margin of 15.3 points per game. Can the Warriors beat the Spurs for the first time since the 2007 season? Since the 2000 season, dogs that cover a line of +3 win the game 88.3% of the time, so don?t take the Warriors unless you think they can win this game.

I think the Spurs are just playing too good right now for this Warriors squad that cannot string together a good defensive game for a full 48 minutes. If you lapse against the Spurs, they make you pay. The Warriors are in the bottom ten in defensive efficiency, and their last five games they have been even worse, posting numbers on par with Orlando and Sacramento?s defense. Further, the Warriors live and die by the jump shot. True, they are one of the best jump shooting teams, but if you play against a defense that challenges shots well or have a tough shooting night, that is not a formula for success. The Warriors are second to last in the league at getting shots at the rim, and sixth in the league at taking bad shots (16-23 foot jumpers). The Spurs are fourth in the league at forcing opponents into bad shots.

Lack of rest has not been an issue for this veteran team with a deep bench, so I'm not worried about the back to back. The Spurs are 9-0 SU (+15.2 ppg) and ATS as a road favorite in their last nine (all since the end of last season) after a game in which they shot better than 55% from the field.


Hawks

The Kings are traveling from Sacramento to Atlanta to start a five game road trip, after losing at home to the Spurs. Since the 2000 season, teams coming off a home loss where they covered the spread are 2-15 SU and 5-11 ATS when playing as a road dog between 5 and 10 points against an opponent coming off a home loss. Teams from the west coast that are rested and playing their first game on the road against a team from the eastern time zone are 37-61 ATS when playing as a dog and their opponent is coming off a home loss.

The Kings have not been too interested in playing defense this season, and that shouldn?t change tonight. Teams playing on the road as a dog between 3 and 10 points are 21-79 SU (-8.1 ppg) and 34-63-3 ATS whey give up 6 or more points above what their opponent averages on the season, and they are on a 2 or more game OVER streak. If you also factor in that the Hawks are coming off a home loss, these numbers sharpen to 4-19 SU (-11.1) and 6-17 ATS (as well as 18-5 O/U). Since the 2005 season, teams seeking same season revenge for a home loss as a road dog between 3 and 10 points are 16-69 SU (-8.9 ppg) and 30-51-4 ATS when they are coming off a loss where they covered the spread.

The Hawks are tentatively holding on to the sixth spot in the East, with a resurgent Celtics team nipping at their heals. Each of their remaining 14 home games is very important for them, where they have been less than dominant and have dropped three of their last four. Teams coming off a 13+ point home loss playing on 1 day of rest as a home favorite of 5 or more points (avg line -8) are 39-7 SU (+9.8) and 29-15-2 ATS since the 2009 season. The Hawks have beaten the Kings nine straight times. Since the 2008 season, they have averaged 51% from the field in all their meetings. Home favorites this season that shoot better than 50% from the field are an unsurprising spread covering machine, at 119-22 ATS, winning by an average of 15.2 ppg. The Hawks are average 49.6% from the field this season after a loss, when playing at home. I am looking for a good solid offensive outing from them tonight.

The Hawks need to take care of business tonight in Atlanta before they head out on a six game road trip. Most importantly, they are going to be wearing some throwbacks tonight, and you just can?t bet against that!


Magic...or lack of

One of the Magic?s injured players, either Al Harrington or Jameer Nelson will have to dress for the game tonight in Memphis just to give the Magic the minimum required 8 players on the bench. Without Nelson, Harrington, Turkoglu, Big Baby Davis, and now that white guy from Duke, I will be surprised if the Magic score more than 80 points against a good defensive team in the Grizzlies, that is giving up only 87.5 points per game at home this season.


Suns

Until the Celtics prove that they can beat a western conference opponent on the road, I?ll continue to fade them. The Suns have been playing a lot better recently, and I actually like watching them. They do a lot of good things on the floor and play good team ball. I don?t think they are as bad as their record, and Scola should have a good game tonight with the Celtics lacking bigs.


Hawks -8
Spurs -3
Suns +2
Rockets +2 x2
Hawks-Kings OVER 202
Knicks-Raptors UNDER 194
Magic TT UNDER 86.5


Good luck...
 

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Spurs

The Spurs have just two more games remaining on their road trip before they go back to Texas for a long homestand. In their last ten road games, they are 9-1 SU (+8.8) and 6-4 ATS, including winning their last 5 (4 of which were against opponents with winning records). I think they would like to finish this road trip strong. This portion of the season is important. It is demoralizing to other teams that may be future playoff foes to beat them on their home court.

Teams playing their third game in four days at home as a dog against a conference opponent are 16-53 SU (-8 ppg) and 24-44-1 ATS when their last game was at home and their opponent is coming off a road game. Since the 2004 season, teams coming off a 15+ point win are 42-31 SU and 45-27 ATS when they average more than 102 points per game and their opponent gives up between 98 and 102 points per game, when the line is between -3 and 3. Teams playing on the road as a favorite coming off a road win when they were winning the game by 15 or more at halftime are 34-13 SU (+5.4) and 26-17 ATS when their opponent is also coming off a win. When the game went over the total, in this same situation teams are 17-5 SU (+7.6) and 14-6 ATS. In other words, they are clicking offensively and their opponent probably isn't going to do much to stop that.

Since the 2008 season, the Spurs are 15-0 SU (+15.3) and 11-4 ATS against the Warriors, averaging 112.3 points against them and beating them by an average margin of 15.3 points per game. Can the Warriors beat the Spurs for the first time since the 2007 season? Since the 2000 season, dogs that cover a line of +3 win the game 88.3% of the time, so don?t take the Warriors unless you think they can win this game.

I think the Spurs are just playing too good right now for this Warriors squad that cannot string together a good defensive game for a full 48 minutes. If you lapse against the Spurs, they make you pay. The Warriors are in the bottom ten in defensive efficiency, and their last five games they have been even worse, posting numbers on par with Orlando and Sacramento?s defense. Further, the Warriors live and die by the jump shot. True, they are one of the best jump shooting teams, but if you play against a defense that challenges shots well or have a tough shooting night, that is not a formula for success. The Warriors are second to last in the league at getting shots at the rim, and sixth in the league at taking bad shots (16-23 foot jumpers). The Spurs are fourth in the league at forcing opponents into bad shots.

Lack of rest has not been an issue for this veteran team with a deep bench, so I'm not worried about the back to back. The Spurs are 9-0 SU (+15.2 ppg) and ATS as a road favorite in their last nine (all since the end of last season) after a game in which they shot better than 55% from the field.


Hawks

The Kings are traveling from Sacramento to Atlanta to start a five game road trip, after losing at home to the Spurs. Since the 2000 season, teams coming off a home loss where they covered the spread are 2-15 SU and 5-11 ATS when playing as a road dog between 5 and 10 points against an opponent coming off a home loss. Teams from the west coast that are rested and playing their first game on the road against a team from the eastern time zone are 37-61 ATS when playing as a dog and their opponent is coming off a home loss.

The Kings have not been too interested in playing defense this season, and that shouldn?t change tonight. Teams playing on the road as a dog between 3 and 10 points are 21-79 SU (-8.1 ppg) and 34-63-3 ATS whey give up 6 or more points above what their opponent averages on the season, and they are on a 2 or more game OVER streak. If you also factor in that the Hawks are coming off a home loss, these numbers sharpen to 4-19 SU (-11.1) and 6-17 ATS (as well as 18-5 O/U). Since the 2005 season, teams seeking same season revenge for a home loss as a road dog between 3 and 10 points are 16-69 SU (-8.9 ppg) and 30-51-4 ATS when they are coming off a loss where they covered the spread.

The Hawks are tentatively holding on to the sixth spot in the East, with a resurgent Celtics team nipping at their heals. Each of their remaining 14 home games is very important for them, where they have been less than dominant and have dropped three of their last four. Teams coming off a 13+ point home loss playing on 1 day of rest as a home favorite of 5 or more points (avg line -8) are 39-7 SU (+9.8) and 29-15-2 ATS since the 2009 season. The Hawks have beaten the Kings nine straight times. Since the 2008 season, they have averaged 51% from the field in all their meetings. Home favorites this season that shoot better than 50% from the field are an unsurprising spread covering machine, at 119-22 ATS, winning by an average of 15.2 ppg. The Hawks are average 49.6% from the field this season after a loss, when playing at home. I am looking for a good solid offensive outing from them tonight.

The Hawks need to take care of business tonight in Atlanta before they head out on a six game road trip. Most importantly, they are going to be wearing some throwbacks tonight, and you just can?t bet against that!


Magic...or lack of

One of the Magic?s injured players, either Al Harrington or Jameer Nelson will have to dress for the game tonight in Memphis just to give the Magic the minimum required 8 players on the bench. Without Nelson, Harrington, Turkoglu, Big Baby Davis, and now that white guy from Duke, I will be surprised if the Magic score more than 80 points against a good defensive team in the Grizzlies, that is giving up only 87.5 points per game at home this season.


Suns

Until the Celtics prove that they can beat a western conference opponent on the road, I?ll continue to fade them. The Suns have been playing a lot better recently, and I actually like watching them. They do a lot of good things on the floor and play good team ball. I don?t think they are as bad as their record, and Scola should have a good game tonight with the Celtics lacking bigs.


Hawks -8
Spurs -3
Suns +2
Rockets +2 x2
Hawks-Kings OVER 202
Knicks-Raptors UNDER 194
Magic TT UNDER 86.5


Good luck...

Love your insight and stats, HH!
Look forward to your posts daily

GL tonight:toast:
 

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Shit don't like seeing you on Houston was going to ride the Nets till they lose,and thought Houston looked to easy getting 2.Maybe I will just roll with a Lopez prop in this one then.Just figure a letdown here for Houston.
On a side note do you have any numbers on DD dogs when the total is under 195,it is something I used to play and win a lot with but doesn't seem to be as strong this year.Orlando falls into that category tonight and who won't want to fade Orlando given their situation.The refs definetly favor home team in this one.Pacers also have a big home team adv with refs but I don't like playing on teams off a huge blowout win.Thanks in advance if you come up with anything on that stat.
 

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I do like Phnx tonight and always appreciate what you share,GL tonight!!!
 

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Joe Johnson is supposed to miss tonight for Nets with foot,maybe reason game has moved down,could be the ole team missing a starter play.Just sharing hope you don't mind!!!
 

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Shit don't like seeing you on Houston was going to ride the Nets till they lose,and thought Houston looked to easy getting 2.Maybe I will just roll with a Lopez prop in this one then.Just figure a letdown here for Houston.
On a side note do you have any numbers on DD dogs when the total is under 195,it is something I used to play and win a lot with but doesn't seem to be as strong this year.Orlando falls into that category tonight and who won't want to fade Orlando given their situation.The refs definetly favor home team in this one.Pacers also have a big home team adv with refs but I don't like playing on teams off a huge blowout win.Thanks in advance if you come up with anything on that stat.

First, on the Rockets. Don't really care if Joe Johnson is out or not - prefer he would play of course, to keep synchronicity, but not too worried about it in this spot. The Rockets are 3.5 games in front of the Lakers for the eighth playoff spot in the west. If the Rockets needed extra motivation for tonight, Kobe provided it for them.

"It's not a question of if we make the playoffs. We will," Kobe told Sports Illustrated. "And when we get there, I have no fear of anyone -- Oklahoma City, San Antonio, Denver, whoever. I have zero nervousness about that."

The Nets are coming off a back to back series against the same team, where the first game went into overtime. This is the first time they were able to beat the Bucks in oh so many years. And now they face a Rockets squad that has been resting at home for over a week now, before this mini east coast road trip. A team that is clicking and playing their best basketball all season. A team that wants to keep the Lakers out of the playoffs for the first time in Kobe's career.

And most important, a team that has beaten them twelve straight times. The Nets lack a good identity, good team chemistry, and their leader is not playing at 100%. The Rockets have an amazing floor leader, they know exactly who they are, and their best is better than the Net's best. Hopefully, they can bring it tonight. I took the Rockets as a 4x play when they faced the Nets earlier this season, and I'm definitely willing to risk half that profit tonight on the rematch.


I'll look up those stats for you...
 

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First, on the Rockets. Don't really care if Joe Johnson is out or not - prefer he would play of course, to keep synchronicity, but not too worried about it in this spot. The Rockets are 3.5 games in front of the Lakers for the eighth playoff spot in the west. If the Rockets needed extra motivation for tonight, Kobe provided it for them.

"It's not a question of if we make the playoffs. We will," Kobe told Sports Illustrated. "And when we get there, I have no fear of anyone -- Oklahoma City, San Antonio, Denver, whoever. I have zero nervousness about that."

The Nets are coming off a back to back series against the same team, where the first game went into overtime. This is the first time they were able to beat the Bucks in oh so many years. And now they face a Rockets squad that has been resting at home for over a week now, before this mini east coast road trip. A team that is clicking and playing their best basketball all season. A team that wants to keep the Lakers out of the playoffs for the first time in Kobe's career.

And most important, a team that has beaten them twelve straight times. The Nets lack a good identity, good team chemistry, and their leader is not playing at 100%. The Rockets have an amazing floor leader, they know exactly who they are, and their best is better than the Net's best. Hopefully, they can bring it tonight. I took the Rockets as a 4x play when they faced the Nets earlier this season, and I'm definitely willing to risk half that profit tonight on the rematch.

I'll look up those stats for you...

I have Rockets -1 now. Quick jump. Thanks for all the insight HH!
 

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On a side note do you have any numbers on DD dogs when the total is under 195,it is something I used to play and win a lot with but doesn't seem to be as strong this year.Orlando falls into that category tonight and who won't want to fade Orlando given their situation.The refs definetly favor home team in this one.Pacers also have a big home team adv with refs but I don't like playing on teams off a huge blowout win.Thanks in advance if you come up with anything on that stat.

Since the 2005 season, DD dogs are 295-290-15 ATS when the total is under 195. There is a slight propensity for the under - 274-321-5 O/U.

Same thing, but instead DD dogs where the total minus the line is less than 180. 226-216-14 ATS, 207-244 O/U.

In games where double digit dogs are playing and the line minus the total is less than 175, the dog averages only 84.4 ppg. This is good for my Orlando TT under, as it fits these parameters.

Not sure that helps any, but there it is!
 

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Since the 2000 season, dogs that cover a line of +3 win the game 88.3% of the time, so don?t take the Warriors unless you think they can win this game.

Wow!!! Is this really true? Thanks for the insight. A +3 dog is usually +130 or so. That would make the EV on the ML so much higher than +3.
 

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Wow!!! Is this really true? Thanks for the insight. A +3 dog is usually +130 or so. That would make the EV on the ML so much higher than +3.

Yes, IF they cover the spread, they win the game 88.3% of the time as a dog. But, since the 2000 season 3 point dogs have covered the spread at a rate of 49.7%, so it is still a 50-50 proposition as to who is going to cover. But if they do cover, chances are very good they will win SU.

This is just with a line of exactly 3. Probably similar results for lines around that number.

Cheers
 

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Since the 2005 season, DD dogs are 295-290-15 ATS when the total is under 195. There is a slight propensity for the under - 274-321-5 O/U.

Same thing, but instead DD dogs where the total minus the line is less than 180. 226-216-14 ATS, 207-244 O/U.

In games where double digit dogs are playing and the line minus the total is less than 175, the dog averages only 84.4 ppg. This is good for my Orlando TT under, as it fits these parameters.

Not sure that helps any, but there it is!

Thanks for the quick response!!!
 

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great season

great season

thought on hou/brooklyn total
i like the over personally
 

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gl, HH. On hou, mem, and atl too.

Yes, IF they cover the spread, they win the game 88.3% of the time as a dog. But, since the 2000 season 3 point dogs have covered the spread at a rate of 49.7%, so it is still a 50-50 proposition as to who is going to cover. But if they do cover, chances are very good they will win SU.

This is just with a line of exactly 3. Probably similar results for lines around that number.

Cheers

I always thought of 5 as the mendoza line (perhaps logic being at 6 pts and needing two 3's to tie, teams are less likely to foul). It would be interesting to see the %'s of wins with the spread being 5 or less.
 

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Sorry bases - didn't see your post before tip off.



gl, HH. On hou, mem, and atl too.



I always thought of 5 as the mendoza line (perhaps logic being at 6 pts and needing two 3's to tie, teams are less likely to foul). It would be interesting to see the %'s of wins with the spread being 5 or less.


LINE % SU WINS (when the dog covers)

8-9 point dog 45.10%
7-8 point dog 49.90%
6-7 point dog 59.60%
5-6 point dog 67.90%
4-5 point dog 75.90%
3-4 point dog 80.10%
2-3 point dog 89.40%
 

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Thanks for the Rockets pick and info...crazy 13 in a row now.

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I'm a huge hawks fan but wasn't going to bet them, but you gave me the nudge I needed! Thanks!!!!!! I was already on the spurs....let's get it! I'm on the over in the spurs game too! Good luck to us all!
 

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Sorry bases - didn't see your post before tip off.






LINE % SU WINS (when the dog covers)

8-9 point dog 45.10%
7-8 point dog 49.90%
6-7 point dog 59.60%
5-6 point dog 67.90%
4-5 point dog 75.90%
3-4 point dog 80.10%
2-3 point dog 89.40%

Thanks.
 

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Spurs

The Spurs have just two more games remaining on their road trip before they go back to Texas for a long homestand. In their last ten road games, they are 9-1 SU (+8.8) and 6-4 ATS, including winning their last 5 (4 of which were against opponents with winning records). I think they would like to finish this road trip strong. This portion of the season is important. It is demoralizing to other teams that may be future playoff foes to beat them on their home court.

Teams playing their third game in four days at home as a dog against a conference opponent are 16-53 SU (-8 ppg) and 24-44-1 ATS when their last game was at home and their opponent is coming off a road game. Since the 2004 season, teams coming off a 15+ point win are 42-31 SU and 45-27 ATS when they average more than 102 points per game and their opponent gives up between 98 and 102 points per game, when the line is between -3 and 3. Teams playing on the road as a favorite coming off a road win when they were winning the game by 15 or more at halftime are 34-13 SU (+5.4) and 26-17 ATS when their opponent is also coming off a win. When the game went over the total, in this same situation teams are 17-5 SU (+7.6) and 14-6 ATS. In other words, they are clicking offensively and their opponent probably isn't going to do much to stop that.

Since the 2008 season, the Spurs are 15-0 SU (+15.3) and 11-4 ATS against the Warriors, averaging 112.3 points against them and beating them by an average margin of 15.3 points per game. Can the Warriors beat the Spurs for the first time since the 2007 season? Since the 2000 season, dogs that cover a line of +3 win the game 88.3% of the time, so don?t take the Warriors unless you think they can win this game.

I think the Spurs are just playing too good right now for this Warriors squad that cannot string together a good defensive game for a full 48 minutes. If you lapse against the Spurs, they make you pay. The Warriors are in the bottom ten in defensive efficiency, and their last five games they have been even worse, posting numbers on par with Orlando and Sacramento?s defense. Further, the Warriors live and die by the jump shot. True, they are one of the best jump shooting teams, but if you play against a defense that challenges shots well or have a tough shooting night, that is not a formula for success. The Warriors are second to last in the league at getting shots at the rim, and sixth in the league at taking bad shots (16-23 foot jumpers). The Spurs are fourth in the league at forcing opponents into bad shots.

Lack of rest has not been an issue for this veteran team with a deep bench, so I'm not worried about the back to back. The Spurs are 9-0 SU (+15.2 ppg) and ATS as a road favorite in their last nine (all since the end of last season) after a game in which they shot better than 55% from the field.


Hawks

The Kings are traveling from Sacramento to Atlanta to start a five game road trip, after losing at home to the Spurs. Since the 2000 season, teams coming off a home loss where they covered the spread are 2-15 SU and 5-11 ATS when playing as a road dog between 5 and 10 points against an opponent coming off a home loss. Teams from the west coast that are rested and playing their first game on the road against a team from the eastern time zone are 37-61 ATS when playing as a dog and their opponent is coming off a home loss.

The Kings have not been too interested in playing defense this season, and that shouldn?t change tonight. Teams playing on the road as a dog between 3 and 10 points are 21-79 SU (-8.1 ppg) and 34-63-3 ATS whey give up 6 or more points above what their opponent averages on the season, and they are on a 2 or more game OVER streak. If you also factor in that the Hawks are coming off a home loss, these numbers sharpen to 4-19 SU (-11.1) and 6-17 ATS (as well as 18-5 O/U). Since the 2005 season, teams seeking same season revenge for a home loss as a road dog between 3 and 10 points are 16-69 SU (-8.9 ppg) and 30-51-4 ATS when they are coming off a loss where they covered the spread.

The Hawks are tentatively holding on to the sixth spot in the East, with a resurgent Celtics team nipping at their heals. Each of their remaining 14 home games is very important for them, where they have been less than dominant and have dropped three of their last four. Teams coming off a 13+ point home loss playing on 1 day of rest as a home favorite of 5 or more points (avg line -8) are 39-7 SU (+9.8) and 29-15-2 ATS since the 2009 season. The Hawks have beaten the Kings nine straight times. Since the 2008 season, they have averaged 51% from the field in all their meetings. Home favorites this season that shoot better than 50% from the field are an unsurprising spread covering machine, at 119-22 ATS, winning by an average of 15.2 ppg. The Hawks are average 49.6% from the field this season after a loss, when playing at home. I am looking for a good solid offensive outing from them tonight.

The Hawks need to take care of business tonight in Atlanta before they head out on a six game road trip. Most importantly, they are going to be wearing some throwbacks tonight, and you just can?t bet against that!


Magic...or lack of

One of the Magic?s injured players, either Al Harrington or Jameer Nelson will have to dress for the game tonight in Memphis just to give the Magic the minimum required 8 players on the bench. Without Nelson, Harrington, Turkoglu, Big Baby Davis, and now that white guy from Duke, I will be surprised if the Magic score more than 80 points against a good defensive team in the Grizzlies, that is giving up only 87.5 points per game at home this season.


Suns

Until the Celtics prove that they can beat a western conference opponent on the road, I?ll continue to fade them. The Suns have been playing a lot better recently, and I actually like watching them. They do a lot of good things on the floor and play good team ball. I don?t think they are as bad as their record, and Scola should have a good game tonight with the Celtics lacking bigs.


Hawks -8
Spurs -3
Suns +2
Rockets +2 x2
Hawks-Kings OVER 202
Knicks-Raptors UNDER 194
Magic TT UNDER 86.5


Good luck...

jack mentioned you in general...figured i`d take a look....

whoa !!.........

i usually never bother with something so long that even spellcheck balks at...but that was a pretty damned good read...

somebody`s putting some serious work in.....

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Follow Hippo and Thunder...see bankroll increase...rinse and repeat...dont know what I'd do without you Hippo..your the best out there!
 
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