George Bush reflects on George Bush

[smurphy]

Whatever.

That's the spirit!:00hour

 

[smurphy]

Man, I really wish that we could gamble on some of the likely responses in this forum.

Jack, any way we can post odds.....or is to easy money to do so.

Wease.....always even money to cripe bloody murder about people, gasp, protesting.....he's also 3 to 1 to chirp about drilling as the only way to go and 4/1 to lay zero blame on the prez for Katrina reponse.

Smurph is even money to offer a snide remark.

DTB is 4 to 7....yes very heavy chalk, indeed.....to lean on no attacks on our soul, y'all better drop to your knees and thank the president.....not to mention 3 to 7, more heavy chalk to point out areas in the country being drowned by Dem leaders without ever pointing out areas in the country being drowned by repub leadership. And, complaining about sanctuary cities where Dems are in control and never pointing out his own party's failures on the illegal immigration issue is so much chalk that it is off the board.

Sponge is 2 to 1 to make a rude, somewhat hateful remark about my southern brethern.

There is a whole slew of folks who are 3 to 2 to blame anything, including the wind changin directions, on GWB.

And, there is a whole slew of people at 3 to 2, who on a cold day like today will post a thread saying there is no such thing as climate change, its all bogus.....I wonder why those folks dont post threads when its 65 and raining in northern michigan on xmas......i wonder why not?

And then there is me, toledo prophet, or jamie mac, my real name, who is 1 to 8 odds to say the following:

As a life long pursurer of American history and presidential history knowledge, I can say that our outgoing president is among the worst we have had. on so many different levels. We were better off as a country the second either McCain or Obama won the presidency.

I say good riddance and bring on the new guy......but you're on a short leash and you better perform fast......and dont listen to you party's congressional leadership too much as they are wrapped in as much special interest as the R's who left power in '06.

Eh, you have to wager a lot just to win one unit, but I, like everyone else, has nothing new to say.

Now, lets go back into the football, hoops and golf forums and help each other win buckets of cash in 2009!!! :00hour

:142smilie

 

[smurphy]

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/sto...x?guid={364DFD37-1A69-46D3-BA45-A24095FD1666}

Seven most horrible things about Bush presidency
Commentary: An alternative to commander-in-chief's view of his time in office

By Rex Nutting, MarketWatch
Last update: 11:37 a.m. EST Jan. 14, 2009Comments: 1159
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) - The remarkable thing about President George W. Bush wasn't that he was a horrible chief executive; it's that he was horrible in so many ways.
Contrary to the president's own assessment of his tenure earlier this week, it was an astonishing eight years - and not in a good way. The country suffered two recessions, and two shooting wars. The government botched its response to a brazen attack by terrorists on two cities, and then four years later utterly failed to react when another city was consumed by a natural disaster.
The president took on tyranny by embracing torture. He fought a war for freedom by trampling human rights. He enriched the already rich, excused their excesses, and then bailed them out of trouble and handed us the bill.
He politicized everything, promoted incompetents, and -- whenever things got tight -- appealed to our basest instincts of fear, greed, ignorance and hate.
Bush had all the luck of Jimmy Carter, the attention to detail of Ronald Reagan, the adaptability of Lyndon Johnson, the abiding respect for the Constitution of Richard Nixon, the humility of Teddy Roosevelt, the rhetorical skills of Calvin Coolidge, the fiscal restraint of Franklin Roosevelt, the cronyism of Warren Harding, and the overreaching idealism of Woodrow Wilson.
And his election had all the legitimacy of Rutherford Hayes'.
None of the disasters of the past eight years can be entirely blamed on Bush, of course. No president is all powerful, and Bush was handed some raw deals, especially in that first year with the recession and then the nightmare of 9/11. But other presidents - Lincoln, Roosevelt, and the incoming Obama come to mind -- have had to deal with worse. The test of greatness is what you do when faced with the impossible.
Here's my list of the seven worst things Bush did during his time in the White House.
7. Bush politicized parts of the government that should be nonpartisan. From NASA to the Justice Department, professionals were forced out or silenced if they departed from the true Republican way. What was good for the Republican Party trumped what was good policy for the nation. Every administration is political to some extent, but the Bush administration took it too far. When Paul O'Neill was forced out at Treasury, it was clear that every major decision would be determined by Karl Rove's calculus.
6. Bush squandered the budget surplus. Despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, Bush had a near-religious faith in the ability of tax cuts to deliver prosperity. Tax cuts were the panacea that would cure all ills. Economy too strong? Cut taxes. Economy too weak? Cut taxes. Stock market falling? Cut dividend taxes. Investment weak? Cut capital gains taxes. But tax cuts didn't make the economy stronger; they merely blew a big hole in the budget. Now, when we could really use that surplus to pay for the bailouts and the stimulus, it's gone.
5. Bush comforted the comfortable and afflicted the afflicted. The Bush years were the ultimate test of trickle-down economics, the theory that says the government should favor the rich because the benefits will flow down to the rest of us. The results of that experiment are clear: We've had the weakest job growth since the 1930s. We've had the biggest increase in debt ever. We've had the highest share of national income going to profits since the 1920s. Income inequality has soared while our public and private investment has slowed to a trickle. Instead of building a fundamentally sound economy, Bush nurtured a Ponzi economy based on get-rich-quick schemes.
4. Bush rewarded incompetence. Because politics and personal loyalty were all that counted, Bush appointed incompetent people to vital jobs. He hired interns to run Iraq. He hired a horse expert to run the Federal Emergency Management Agency. He wanted to hire Harriett Miers to be a Supreme Court justice. Top jobs were reserved for sycophants, toadies and failures.
3. Bush lied us into war. Every argument for war against Iraq was a delusion, and hundreds of thousands of lives have been lost as a result.Saddam Hussein was not responsible for 9/11 in any way. He was not a danger to the United States. The Bush administration ignored or dismissed mountains of evidence that showed that Saddam was not building an arsenal of chemical or nuclear weapons. Bush rushed to war without giving diplomacy or weapons inspectors a chance. Later, administration officials blew the cover of a CIA employee whose husband told the truth, and then lied about their involvement.
2. Bush has exposed himself to war crime charges. By his own admission, Bush authorized interrogation practices that are illegal under U.S. and international law. His administration at best looked the other way and at worst ordered prisoners at Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib to be tortured. Not only is torture an immoral and heinous crime against humanity, it is ineffective in the fight against terrorism. Nothing has given Osama bin Laden more support than Bush's immorality. And our nation's reputation has been tarnished, possibly forever.
1. Bush weakened our democracy. Bush has embraced a theory of dictatorship. Bush, under Vice President Dick Cheney's guidance, encouraged an imperial presidency answerable to no one. Working with a complacent Congress, Bush gutted the constitutional checks and balances that are supposed to keep any part of the government from growing too powerful or too corrupt. In the name of an endless war against an amorphous enemy, he canceled our most fundamental rights of habeas corpus and the right to be free from unreasonable government spying.

 

[Toledo Prophet]

Sorry Smurph, just trying to have fun with all of you.....it seems like everyone is chasing their own tail in this forum half the time.

I like all of you, but its sometimes too frustrating to particiapte in this thread.

One more thing about me:

Even money to come in with a negative score in the H/K....and 1 to 2 to be so spacey and forget that I still need to do playoffs picks, thereby eliminating me from the booby prize!

Fawk!!!!!!!

 

[smurphy]

I like all of you

what the hell is wrong with you?:shrug:

 

[Toledo Prophet]

what the hell is wrong with you?:shrug:

What can I say, I am a idealist and like everyone.

I only hate based on sports rivalries......so you are on notice if the Cards and Steelers play in the S.B.

Of course, jack and wease are ok in my book, despite their love for the old cleveland browns. :SIB

 

[smurphy]

What can I say, I am a idealist and like everyone.

I only hate based on sports rivalries......so you are on notice if the Cards and Steelers play in the S.B.

Of course, jack and wease are ok in my book, despite their love for the old cleveland browns. :SIB

wow, another steeler fan. how original.

 

[The Sponge]

Sponge is 2 to 1 to make a rude, somewhat hateful remark about my southern brethern.

How come i get all the heat when it comes to Southerners? I know of one preson on this site that blows me away when it comes to this point u are making. I also say not all southerners just the majority which is 51 percent. U have to admit these bad presidents get in office when its the red states that carry them to it.:shrug: That is the reality of the situation. We have a ton of these deep thinkers right here in Pa.

 

[Toledo Prophet]

How come i get all the heat when it comes to Southerners? I know of one preson on this site that blows me away when it comes to this point u are making. I also say not all southerners just the majority which is 51 percent. U have to admit these bad presidents get in office when its the red states that carry them to it.:shrug: That is the reality of the situation. We have a ton of these deep thinkers right here in Pa.

I admit I was going by memory.

And, I was also trying to include people from both, uh, sides.....sorry if I reached my head too far out in front of my ski's/

Like I said above, you're all good as far as I am concerned, but this forum can get so darn repititive.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Man, I really wish that we could gamble on some of the likely responses in this forum.

Jack, any way we can post odds.....or is to easy money to do so.

Wease.....always even money to cripe bloody murder about people, gasp, protesting.....he's also 3 to 1 to chirp about drilling as the only way to go and 4/1 to lay zero blame on the prez for Katrina reponse.

Smurph is even money to offer a snide remark.

DTB is 4 to 7....yes very heavy chalk, indeed.....to lean on no attacks on our soul, y'all better drop to your knees and thank the president.....not to mention 3 to 7, more heavy chalk to point out areas in the country being drowned by Dem leaders without ever pointing out areas in the country being drowned by repub leadership. And, complaining about sanctuary cities where Dems are in control and never pointing out his own party's failures on the illegal immigration issue is so much chalk that it is off the board.

Sponge is 2 to 1 to make a rude, somewhat hateful remark about my southern brethern.

There is a whole slew of folks who are 3 to 2 to blame anything, including the wind changin directions, on GWB.

And, there is a whole slew of people at 3 to 2, who on a cold day like today will post a thread saying there is no such thing as climate change, its all bogus.....I wonder why those folks dont post threads when its 65 and raining in northern michigan on xmas......i wonder why not?

And then there is me, toledo prophet, or jamie mac, my real name, who is 1 to 8 odds to say the following:

As a life long pursurer of American history and presidential history knowledge, I can say that our outgoing president is among the worst we have had. on so many different levels. We were better off as a country the second either McCain or Obama won the presidency.

I say good riddance and bring on the new guy......but you're on a short leash and you better perform fast......and dont listen to you party's congressional leadership too much as they are wrapped in as much special interest as the R's who left power in '06.

Eh, you have to wager a lot just to win one unit, but I, like everyone else, has nothing new to say.

Now, lets go back into the football, hoops and golf forums and help each other win buckets of cash in 2009!!! :00hour

You forgot to mention over under on how many threads it would take for party of hate to try to get their opinions in--I got 4 in a row right now--with some having to start 2--

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George Bush reflects on George Bush
Eddie Haskell Today 04:32 PM
by Toledo Prophet 28 221
Bush farewell sounds like Charlie Brown's teacher
Chadman Today 01:15 PM
by Skulnik 3 40
The Life and Crimes of George W. Bush
Chadman Today 12:56 PM
by Chadman 0 14
The maddening virtues of King George
buddy Today 08:16 AM
by buddy 3 78

--and along the lines of hate we have by Edward-
" I am just happy as hell he will be gone forever in just a few more days. Rot in hell you son of a bitch."

followed by his diciples
Smurph "Good stuff as always E."
BBC "Good post, Eddie"
Stevie "Great post Eddie!"

--and I see your a student of history--

We've had debates on stats on inflation-unemployment -charitable giving etc of past administrations -last few weeks--and since you couldn't come up with any statistical rebuttals- I'm laying 2/1 your historical calculator has all O's (opinion) on it.

 

[THE KOD]

No, you simply put in too much effort into clear and informative posts. I gave up on that long time ago when dealing with a few of these folks. Feels a lot better this way.

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thats kinda of a stupid thing to say

maybe DTB is right about you dart thrower

 

[THE KOD]

I can say that our outgoing president is among the worst we have had. on so many different levels. We were better off as a country the second either McCain or Obama won the presidency.

I say good riddance and bring on the new guy......but you're on a short leash and you better perform fast

 

[THE KOD]

Eddie

you certified incredible magnificent bastid !

 

[smurphy]

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thats kinda of a stupid thing to say

maybe DTB is right about you dart thrower

I'm sure he is right about me. But that doesn't mean I'm wrong about him.

You have obviously also given up for the most part. Nothing but quick hits and helicopter photos.

 

[smurphy]

You forgot to mention over under on how many threads it would take for party of hate to try to get their opinions in--I got 4 in a row right now--with some having to start 2--

Last Post Replies Views
George Bush reflects on George Bush
Eddie Haskell Today 04:32 PM
by Toledo Prophet 28 221
Bush farewell sounds like Charlie Brown's teacher
Chadman Today 01:15 PM
by Skulnik 3 40
The Life and Crimes of George W. Bush
Chadman Today 12:56 PM
by Chadman 0 14
The maddening virtues of King George
buddy Today 08:16 AM
by buddy 3 78

--and along the lines of hate we have by Edward-
" I am just happy as hell he will be gone forever in just a few more days. Rot in hell you son of a bitch."

followed by his diciples
Smurph "Good stuff as always E."
BBC "Good post, Eddie"
Stevie "Great post Eddie!"

--and I see your a student of history--

We've had debates on stats on inflation-unemployment -charitable giving etc of past administrations -last few weeks--and since you couldn't come up with any statistical rebuttals- I'm laying 2/1 your historical calculator has all O's (opinion) on it.

:kiss: ...a lil' love for ya from the party of hate.

 

[BobbyBlueChip]

Good Post, Smurph!!

 

[gardenweasel]

Good post, Eddie

:toast:

that`s quite a post...a scathing refutation to the conservatives...:thumb:

/*tap..tap*(on bobby`s head)"is this thing on?"

 

[smurphy]

Good Post, Smurph!!

Thanks, pal.

 

[buddy]

DTB,

Please tell me you did not use the phrase "party of hate"....LOL!

Rumor has it your vehicle displays a bumper sticker which reads "Mean People Suck"....LOLOL!

 

[BobbyBlueChip]

Oh. . . . and since we're giving odds. . . . I'll take 2/1 that TP starts some post in the next 6 months about his company's controller that sits in his office all day listening to Rush and bitching about the lazy welfare class.

Just sayin'