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I liked IKE - Kennedy would be at top of my list
However I think maybe back then I did not pay much attention to what was going on.
Of the later pres I liked johnson's and gw's character probably the best. They were genuine and both went through difficult times and you could see the pain in their eyes.
I did not care for Bush sr one bit--not the person I make a deal on a handshake with.
Carter was worse IMO that served full term--but if next 2 years are like the 1st--O will be in catagory all to himself.
--a common trait both O and Carter share that I distain--is promising the moon and when they fail point finger at someone else.
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Clinton was a Rhodes Scholar and Obama a Harvard Law Professor and DTGumby calls them zeros. Shows the value Republicans like DTGumby place on education.
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I bet Clinton and Obama can spell 'private' as well.
Sorry. The constant grammatical errors from people judging other people's intelligence is a riot.
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The scoop from Washington Sweet: Obama did NOT "hold the title" of a University of Chicago law school professor.
By Lynn Sweeton March 28, 2008 6:25 PM | Permalink | Comments (57)
WASHINGTON?The University of Chicago released a statement on Thursday saying Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) ?served as a professor? in the law school?but that is a title Obama, who taught courses there part-time, never held, a spokesman for the school confirmed on Friday.
?He did not hold the title of professor of law,? said Marsha Ferziger Nagorsky, an Assistant Dean for Communications and Lecturer in Law at the school, on East 60th St. in Chicago
The U of C statement was posted on the school?s website two days after the Clinton campaign issued a memo headlined ?Just Embellished Words: Senator Obama?s Record of Exaggerations & Misstatements.? The memo was generated by the Clinton campaign as Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) was put on the defensive for claiming incorrectly that she dodged sniper fire while First Lady when her plane landed in Bosnia.
Another university spokesman, Josh Schonwald, said the Obama campaign did not request that the statement be generated and that it was posted because reporters were calling the school with questions about Obama?s status. However, the Obama campaign was interested in making sure reporters saw the U of C statement.
The university statement said, ?From 1992 until his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004, Barack Obama served as a professor in the Law School.? The school probably did not mean to imply that Obama became a University of Chicago professor a year out of law school. But the word ?served? is key?Nagorsky said Obama carried out, or served, a function of a professor?teaching a core curriculum course while a senior lecturer?while at the same time not holding down that rank.
At issue in the Clinton memo was Obama?s claims?mostly specifically on several direct mail pieces produced for his 2004 U.S. Senate race-- that said he was a law professor at the university.
Obama graduated Harvard Law School in 1991. He was a lecturer at the U. of Chicago law school between 1992 and 1996. During this time he was an attorney at the law firm of Miner, Barnhill & Galland. In his first years of teaching, he had only one course.
He was promoted to Senior Lecturer in 1996 and his teaching load eventually increased to three courses a year, less than the load of a professor. Obama won a state Senate seat in 1996. Obama maintained his senior lecturer post from 1996 to 2004, when he took a leave to run for the U.S. Senate.
Nagorsky said there is a major distinction between a lecturer and senior lecturer, though both are not full-time positions. She said the status of a senior lecturer is ?similar? to the status of a professor and Obama did teach core courses usually handled only by professors. While Obama was also part of the law school community, his appointment was not part of an academic search process and he did not have any scholarly research obligations which professors often do.
In August of 2004, I wrote a column about Obama?s U.S. Senate campaign literature saying he was a law professor at the U of C when he was a senior lecturer on leave at the school. Neither the school nor anyone in the Obama campaign complained at the time.
The University of Chicago did Obama no favor by saying he was a law professor when he wasn?t. This parsing is not necessary. There is nothing degrading about being a senior lecturer and bringing to students the experience of a professional in the field.
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The scoop from Washington Sweet: Obama did NOT "hold the title" of a University of Chicago law school professor.
By Lynn Sweeton March 28, 2008 6:25 PM | Permalink | Comments (57)
WASHINGTON?The University of Chicago released a statement on Thursday saying Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) ?served as a professor? in the law school?but that is a title Obama, who taught courses there part-time, never held, a spokesman for the school confirmed on Friday.
?He did not hold the title of professor of law,? said Marsha Ferziger Nagorsky, an Assistant Dean for Communications and Lecturer in Law at the school, on East 60th St. in Chicago
The U of C statement was posted on the school?s website two days after the Clinton campaign issued a memo headlined ?Just Embellished Words: Senator Obama?s Record of Exaggerations & Misstatements.? The memo was generated by the Clinton campaign as Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) was put on the defensive for claiming incorrectly that she dodged sniper fire while First Lady when her plane landed in Bosnia.
Another university spokesman, Josh Schonwald, said the Obama campaign did not request that the statement be generated and that it was posted because reporters were calling the school with questions about Obama?s status. However, the Obama campaign was interested in making sure reporters saw the U of C statement.
The university statement said, ?From 1992 until his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004, Barack Obama served as a professor in the Law School.? The school probably did not mean to imply that Obama became a University of Chicago professor a year out of law school. But the word ?served? is key?Nagorsky said Obama carried out, or served, a function of a professor?teaching a core curriculum course while a senior lecturer?while at the same time not holding down that rank.
At issue in the Clinton memo was Obama?s claims?mostly specifically on several direct mail pieces produced for his 2004 U.S. Senate race-- that said he was a law professor at the university.
Obama graduated Harvard Law School in 1991. He was a lecturer at the U. of Chicago law school between 1992 and 1996. During this time he was an attorney at the law firm of Miner, Barnhill & Galland. In his first years of teaching, he had only one course.
He was promoted to Senior Lecturer in 1996 and his teaching load eventually increased to three courses a year, less than the load of a professor. Obama won a state Senate seat in 1996. Obama maintained his senior lecturer post from 1996 to 2004, when he took a leave to run for the U.S. Senate.
Nagorsky said there is a major distinction between a lecturer and senior lecturer, though both are not full-time positions. She said the status of a senior lecturer is ?similar? to the status of a professor and Obama did teach core courses usually handled only by professors. While Obama was also part of the law school community, his appointment was not part of an academic search process and he did not have any scholarly research obligations which professors often do.
In August of 2004, I wrote a column about Obama?s U.S. Senate campaign literature saying he was a law professor at the U of C when he was a senior lecturer on leave at the school. Neither the school nor anyone in the Obama campaign complained at the time.
The University of Chicago did Obama no favor by saying he was a law professor when he wasn?t. This parsing is not necessary. There is nothing degrading about being a senior lecturer and bringing to students the experience of a professional in the field.
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Skulnik... do you even read the stuff you post? If so, you're comprehension level must be about on par with Dubya's.
So you have a problem with the University of Chicago press statements? Take it up with them. :shrug:
Trench
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So you have a problem with the University of Chicago press statements? Take it up with them. :shrug:
Trench
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My mistake. He was actually Editor of The Harvard Law Review. But my point is valid. Guys like you and DTB place no value on education so you consider anyone coming out of academia "zero's" as DTB put it. It stands to reason that many Republicans like yourselves place so little value on education though, because only the educated can truly appreciate the value of education.
So do you agree with DTB that a guy who graduated from Harvard Law School, was Editor of the Harvard Law Review and served as both Lecturer and Senior Lecturer teaching Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago was a "zero" before he entered public life?
You really don't have to answer that question, because I know what your answer is. Like I said... only those who are educated can truly appreciate education.
Trench
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he was borned in Kenya Trench
so it dont matter to them about no edumacation
Trench, I know Obama is an educated man, maybe we can find out who paid for it and find out what kind of grades he got.
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and him's wife was descented from slavery's tOO :scared
take are country bacKKK!
Trench
Fact is Obama is one of the smartest best leaders we have ever had as President.
these asswipes just dont want to admit it.
these asswipes just dont want to admit it.
no scotty he socilist and him hate white poeple :scared
wood glen Beck lie? :shrug:
Trench
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skulnik had to take a job at a zoo because he could not define words properly
He said its a good job because its dark and cool
and skul likes the fact no one is standing over his shoulder telling him what to do
I'll see if Sandy Berger can get the info, I hear he can steal anything, plus he can get away with it if he gets caught.
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