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During current Hold'em session you were dealt 22 hands and saw flop:
- 0 out of 2 times while in big blind (0%)
- 1 out of 2 times while in small blind (50%)
- 0 out of 18 times in other positions (0%)
- a total of 1 out of 22 (4%)
Pots won at showdown - 0 of 0 (0%)
Pots won without showdown - 1
 

Agent 0659

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Oh really, what is this asshole thinking?


PokerStars Game #4446005463: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2006/03/28 - 19:18:52 (ET)
Table 'Sisyphus' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: bkb789 ($25.10 in chips)
Seat 2: Shos ($36.35 in chips)
Seat 3: TommyDogan ($46.25 in chips)
Seat 4: gdimond ($49.35 in chips)
Seat 5: Goatboy33 ($20.95 in chips)
Seat 6: mycenter ($25.30 in chips)
Seat 7: oerockets ($26.30 in chips)
Seat 8: pga_pro_2010 ($43.25 in chips)
Shos: posts small blind $0.25
TommyDogan: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Goatboy33 [6s 7s]
gdimond: folds
Goatboy33: raises $1 to $1.50
mycenter: folds
oerockets: folds
pga_pro_2010: folds
bkb789: raises $1.50 to $3
Shos: folds
TommyDogan: folds
Goatboy33: calls $1.50
*** FLOP *** [As 4h Ks]
richard0048 joins the table at seat #9
Goatboy33: checks
bkb789: bets $3
Goatboy33: raises $8.50 to $11.50
bkb789: calls $8.50
*** TURN *** [As 4h Ks] [Th]
Goatboy33: bets $10.45 and is all-in
bkb789: calls $10.45
*** RIVER *** [As 4h Ks Th] [Ac]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Goatboy33: shows [6s 7s] (a pair of Aces)
bkb789: shows [Jc Qh] (a straight, Ten to Ace)bkb789 collected $41.60 from pot


Any old red 10 you asswipe. :shrug:
 

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Agent 0659 said:
Oh really, what is this asshole thinking?


PokerStars Game #4446005463: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2006/03/28 - 19:18:52 (ET)
Table 'Sisyphus' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: bkb789 ($25.10 in chips)
Seat 2: Shos ($36.35 in chips)
Seat 3: TommyDogan ($46.25 in chips)
Seat 4: gdimond ($49.35 in chips)
Seat 5: Goatboy33 ($20.95 in chips)
Seat 6: mycenter ($25.30 in chips)
Seat 7: oerockets ($26.30 in chips)
Seat 8: pga_pro_2010 ($43.25 in chips)
Shos: posts small blind $0.25
TommyDogan: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Goatboy33 [6s 7s]
gdimond: folds
Goatboy33: raises $1 to $1.50
mycenter: folds
oerockets: folds
pga_pro_2010: folds
bkb789: raises $1.50 to $3
Shos: folds
TommyDogan: folds
Goatboy33: calls $1.50
*** FLOP *** [As 4h Ks]
richard0048 joins the table at seat #9
Goatboy33: checks
bkb789: bets $3
Goatboy33: raises $8.50 to $11.50
bkb789: calls $8.50
*** TURN *** [As 4h Ks] [Th]
Goatboy33: bets $10.45 and is all-in
bkb789: calls $10.45
*** RIVER *** [As 4h Ks Th] [Ac]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Goatboy33: shows [6s 7s] (a pair of Aces)
bkb789: shows [Jc Qh] (a straight, Ten to Ace)bkb789 collected $41.60 from pot


Any old red 10 you asswipe. :shrug:

I just kinda skimmed over it, but if I read it right you're pissed because you lost on your semi-bluff flush draw with 6-7 suited?

Bad beat, man. What was he thinking? :rolleyes:

I probably am missing something, but did he even need the straight to beat your horrible hand? :shrug:
 

Agent 0659

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Well I dont see how he could call that but so be it :shrug: You are correct though he didnt need the 10 to beat me. HOWEVER he doesnt know that. Would you call that?
 

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Agent 0659 said:
Well I dont see how he could call that but so be it :shrug: You are correct though he didnt need the 10 to beat me. HOWEVER he doesnt know that. Would you call that?

Well, obviously anybody would call your all-in after catching the nut straight on the turn.

If you mean your prior raise, I probably wouldn't call it, but then again I wouldn't be making that large (in this context) raise that you made with that draw either. You tried to get him out of the hand with nothing and you got beat. It happens.

Far from a bad beat or anything to get pissed about.
 

Agent 0659

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Well its a HORRENDOUS play on his part and Im not THAT pissed, just wanted to post it because it happened right about the time I was reading Jacks post. Wish my spade had hit.
 

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Agent 0659 said:
Well its a HORRENDOUS play on his part and Im not THAT pissed, just wanted to post it because it happened right about the time I was reading Jacks post. Wish my spade had hit.

Yeah, that would have been good if the spade had hit. Of course. That's what you were betting on.

You aggressively raised after the flop on a draw with two low suited cards and an A and K on the board. I'm not sure slinging around the word 'HORRENDOUS' towards that guy is really apropos unless you look at your play in that hand in the same context.

No offense, but he's probably posting on some forum talking about yet *another* guy aggressively chasing a flush that donated money to the table.
 

Agent 0659

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Well, I guess we will just have to disagree on this one Kosar, or maybe I'm right and you just dont understand higher levels of poker playing? :142smilie I raised pre flop, represented a big hand with a check raise on the flop when he made a weak stab at the pot. At this point I dont see how a player of even marginal ability could call that raise. Reraise if we had more money maybe if he sensed I was stealing but he cant call, its the worst play available to him. Im sure BDB would agree and many other good players. So what Im semi bluffing, youre so caught up in that you are missing the point of the post that HE CANT CALL. OR, maybe Im wrong.
 

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Agent 0659 said:
Well, I guess we will just have to disagree on this one Kosar, or maybe I'm right and you just dont understand higher levels of poker playing? :142smilie I raised pre flop, represented a big hand with a check raise on the flop when he made a weak stab at the pot. At this point I dont see how a player of even marginal ability could call that raise. Reraise if we had more money maybe if he sensed I was stealing but he cant call, its the worst play available to him. Im sure BDB would agree and many other good players. So what Im semi bluffing, youre so caught up in that you are missing the point of the post that HE CANT CALL. OR, maybe Im wrong.

I'm not caught up in the 'semi-bluff', i'm just saying that you both were basically doing the same thing and he had better cards. One thing though is I didn't notice it was a check raise on the flop and of course you don't call there. Get out or raise, trying to represent the ace or even the flush draw that you had.

That said, I think you overplayed a terrible hand, even with the draw. You took a shot and lost. Maybe you guys had been playing a while and he identified you as a bluffer. There are so many variables, but I wouldn't give you any medals regarding playing 6-7 suited that way. Certainly not to the point where you comment on the other guy as being horrendous.

Anyways, it's all good. :SIB
 

Agent 0659

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Well neither of us had a read unless he knew me from be4 cause it was my 2nd hand at the table.

Having said that :banghead: maybe you just had to be there but trust me it was horrendous.....
 

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Maybe you gave a tell with your "dangle"?!

P.S. I think it is a little bigger. :scared
 

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agent,

your play was fine if you were playing for any substantial amount of money, 10/20 n.l blinds or higher.

your thinking is right, and its absolutely the right play and you will rarely get called down in that spot at a decent sized game, and even if you do its good for your metagame image and makes it +ev.

to make that play in kitchen table poker which 25 cent 50 cent is, is terrible on your part. bluffing little games makes no sense. you will get called way more often than are supposed to and will never show a long term profit.

small stakes poker has very little strategy, especially online. its who can make the better hand.

i'd be willing to bet that i would be a long term loser playing low limit holdem online.

you made a play that is correct for a different level of opponents, but that stuff doesn't work in small stakes.

nothing to get pissed about. if you are trying to build a roll, just play 8-12 tables at once and agressively play top tier hands. use a second or third monitor for porn, so you aren't too bored, but you will still be bored silly and its a long long grind. but you will win in the long run and be bored senseless.


gl

p.s and jack, you know better. a 22 hand sample size. :)
 
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BleedDodgerBlue said:
agent,


to make that play in kitchen table poker which 25 cent 50 cent is, is terrible on your part. bluffing little games makes no sense. you will get called way more often than are supposed to and will never show a long term profit.

small stakes poker has very little strategy, especially online. its who can make the better hand.

)


Was kinda trying to dance around that and talk about things in 'relative' terms. But of course that's the answer. I need to stop being so sensitive to others feelings and say what I really think. :sadwave:
 

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taoist said:
...someone mark this one down. :mj07: :mj07:


:142smilie

Not funny, Chad. Not funny at all. You know damn well that sensitivity is my middle name. :nono:

Hang tough on the smokeout, bro.
 
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