Globes say No Moore

[CHARLESMANSON]

Michael Moore sitting at the DNC as the guest of honor next to Jimmy Carter!!!!! lol.... THAT WAS THE SIGN OF THE END FOR THE DEMOCRATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :clap:

I knew they were absolutely doomed from that point on. Talk about desperate measures. lol
That's when America saw how low this pathetic democratic party has stooped.

America doesn't relate to that fake Hollywood Kabbalah Liberal bullshit anymore. Those people have no F'ing clue and in no way whatsoever can they ever come close to relating with you or your lifestyle. Think about it --- those liberals actors that you all hold in such high intellectual esteem are not authorities on national defense. What about intell? or ground-battle??

How much does Leo DiCaprio actually know about counter-terrorism??? Or Bennifer??? or the Dixie Dykes??!!

Or that fake jew wrinkle-twatMadonna...
hey Madonna.......................how would you deal with a nice Embassy bombing?...what would be your next step???

For those of you who haven't seen "FahrenHYPE 911" ....check it out. It shows the TRUTH about Mike Moore's sick anti-American propoganda movie and uncovers 59 misleading lies about that pathetic attempt at a film. ALL FACTS!

Hey if anything...I'll give the guy an Oscar for fooling 48% of the nation. :clap: I'm impressed! :142lmao:

 

[StevieD]

The election was close. You people act this was some kind of a landslide. As a sitting President, during a War, Bush barely won. At best he won Ohio by 136,000 thoudand votes. Add to that the voting fraud in that state and it most likely cost Kerry the election. This was certainly no mandate by any stretch of the imagination.

 

[IntenseOperator]

.(that`s an extreme exggeration...like saying all aussie`s are criminals...when we know only about half actually are.....o.k...maybe only around 40%...)QUOTE]

you forgot to add the other half are homosexuals

place is loaded with them

 

[IntenseOperator]

Got one word about one "perfect" Australia...

Aborigines

 

[MrChristo]

Perfect?...Never mentioned the word. :shrug:

(Don't understand the homosexual reference, sorry.)

we`ve only been here for around 225 years.....

we are still a work in progress....

Let's not start the Native people game though, hey
(Seriously!!...WAY, WAY too many issues there!)

btw, nice avatar IO. You know anything about them?
We live in a constant state of worry that they will demolish our houses in a whirlwind of fur and teeth before our kangaroos can carry us home fast enough to stop them

 

[IntenseOperator]

Perfect?...Never mentioned the word. :shrug:

(Don't understand the homosexual reference, sorry.)



Let's not start the Native people game though, hey
(Seriously!!...WAY, WAY too many issues there!)

btw, nice avatar IO. You know anything about them?
We live in a constant state of worry that they will demolish our houses in a whirlwind of fur and teeth before our kangaroos can carry us home fast enough to stop them

Knew the avatar would come up. It's a cartoon character. :142lmao:

Friend of mine has many relatives there. She's talked about the men on men thing. Think it has something to do with the "prison" historical aspect of the place.

I'll have to talk to her again on this for better info.

Guess we won't go into the "native people" thing. Just tuck that one away. Was reading some Australian papers with headlines of current racism in the military.

Also, if things go the way the commissioners of the big four sports here would like, they WILL have teams all over the world. Then the champs can be pc called World Champs. And there will definitely be some other reason to bitch.

 

[djv]

Late night shows are given all they need for there comedy every time Mr. Bush opens his mouth.

 

[kosar]

Springsteen, P Diddy, etal were very effective in getting out the youth vote. 51% of 18-30 year olds voted as opposed to 41% in 2000 and they favored Kerry by a 55%-44% margin.

It's just that Rove was more effective in getting all the homophobes out to the polls by getting gay marriage amendments on certain states ballots, not the least of which, Ohio.

Michael Moore had nothing to do with anything, either way.

 

[gardenweasel]

mr christo...that aussie criminal reference was a joke.

but,it was, after all, a penal colony way back in the day.....a ridiculous statement,much like your 30% map statement....

i threw it in there to elicit the desired response....thanks for obliging my friend.....

 

[IntenseOperator]

Mr Puffta

Mr Puffta

Talked to my friend over lunch today. She said the towns on the East coast are were the flamers are located. The towns with English names.

She also said that most Australians are very homophobic which probably puts you in a better light.

She told me to ask you what type of criminals your ancestors were? and whether or not you play cricket?

Something about Australia not considering Tasmania part of the country?

Threw in a white trash reference in the conversation :scared

Nothing personal, I'm just learning so much about things I know nothing of.

 

[danmurphy jr]

It's over guys, turn off the tv, time to go no living

 

[kosar]

You spend quite a bit of time in here telling everybody to start living.

 

[danmurphy jr]

just tryin to help! life's too short to spend on things you have no control of or worry about people who could care less what you think

 

[ferdville]

I believe the youth vote was exactly the same for 18-24 year olds. I would suspect that increasing the age to 30 (youth?) might skew things. I might have been wrong, but every single thing I read indicated that the youth vote (18-24) not (18-30) was no different than the last election. Would like to know the actual figures.

And dear Mr. Christo - please explain your exclamatory "AHA". So that is the answer you were expecting. Why? And if the rest of the world so dislikes the United States, why don't THEY care? You sound like the United Nations which expects the United States to consult Cameroon before we change our sheets in the morning. Do you consult your next door neighbors about the noise level of your stereo or the choice of music you listen to? Do they play an active role in choosing your landscaping? Give me some reasons why the United States should base their policy on what the people of Turkistan want to see done.

 

[MrChristo]

I just knew someone would post that exact reply, ferdville, that's all.

Just seems typical of some people's view that 'We are the USA, screw the rest of the world'.

My point is that it's that very attitude that has made you you such a target for terrorism, and such a hated nation around the world. **

As for the UN (while I agree 100% that they are a limp, effectively useless entity), the US used them to try to 'convince' the rest of the world that an invasion of Iraq was necessary. (Some people would say by lying and misrepresentation.)

So you think that's it's perfectly acceptable for the US to invade and attack countries it feels are a possible threat whenever you feel like it?
The way I see it is that makes you no better than Iraq itself.

The US were quite clearly a thrreat to them, so why shouldn't they have made a pre-emptive strike on the US? Why shouldn't they have flung off a few missiles??
Like it or not, it's the exact same logic...Except of course you happen to believe your (our) way is "right".

Oh, and for the record, no, I don't consult my neighbour before I play loud music...But if they were to come and ask me to turn it down for some reason then I would respect that and do as they ask.
Sounds to me like you'd simply tell them to **** off, and think that was perfectly ok.

** I would like to point out that these aren't my views...I've stated my (and my country's) position on the US here many times.

 

[Chanman]

With all due respect MrChristo every country has its patriots and its not so glorious past. Whereas Americans may be seen as arrogant by some, they should look at their own country before leveling criticism@ ours. I'll not go into what Japan, Germany, etc. have in their closets.
What do you expect w/all the diversity in the US? Look@ these forums for example. It ranges from the die hard neo-cons to the take your clothes off in protest Libs. 49% voted for against Bush despite Soros, F 9/11, Hollywood and so on, but he was Commander-In-Chief when 3000 citizens died and thats what led to our war in Iraq. We are not privy to all the circumstances that led up to the decision. Besides if not the US, then what other country would have taken on Saddam? Thanks for your views by the way...Chan

So you think that's it's perfectly acceptable for the US to invade and attack countries it feels are a possible threat whenever you feel like it?
The way I see it is that makes you no better than Iraq itself.


MEDIA MATTERS
Matt Lauer equates U.S. Founders with terrorists
Islamic radicals in Fallujah 'don't believe any less than we believe'
Posted: November 11, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern

? 2004 WorldNetDaily.com


In an interview with second lady Lynne Cheney, the "Today Show's" Matt Lauer equated the Islamic radicals in Fallujah terrorizing Iraq with George Washington's Revolutionary War army.

Questioning Cheney about her new children's book, "When Washington Crossed the Delaware: A Wintertime Story for Young Patriots," the NBC host asked Cheney, in light of the current offensive on Fallujah, to apply to today the lesson of a "rag-tag group" going up against a powerful, well-equipped army.

Lauer was rebuffed by the vice president's wife for equating Washington's troops with the radical Muslim terrorists then clarified his line of questioning.

"I'm just saying, but the insurgents believe they're fighting for a cause as well," Lauer explained. "They don't believe any less than we believe."

The conversation Tuesday was recorded by the Virginia-based Media Research Center.

Lauer: "Let me talk about this idea that a rag-tag group, not well-fed, not well-clothed, completely under-equipped as compared to this great British army and the Hessian could accomplish this. And let me ask you to think about what is going on in Iraq today. Where the insurgents not well equipped, smaller in numbers, the greatest army in the world is their opposition. What's, what's the lesson?"

Cheney: "Well, the difference of course is who's fighting on the side of freedom. Ideas motivate people. And the idea of freedom is such a mighty one. There's a very good book by a man named David Hackett Fischer has written a book called Washington's Crossing. And I spent a good deal of time talking to him. He talks about how this is an entirely new thing. These are people who are fighting not because they had to, they could walk off. At one point Washington had to convince many of them to stay."

Lauer: "I think he promised them more pay, actually."

Cheney: "He did. But he also told them they were fighting for a mighty idea. And I think the same has been true. The same advantage has been at the back of Americans forever. We have a mighty cause in which we're fighting."

Lauer: "I'm just saying, but the insurgents believe they're fighting for a cause as well. They don't believe any less than we believe. And yet -- "

Cheney: "Well, but Matt, you're being awfully relativistic here. I mean, the insurgents are killing Iraqis by the hundreds, Iraqis by the thousands. It's not as though this is a matter between just 'on the one hand on the other hand.' We are on the side of freedom. We are on the side that I think that idea is so powerful and does give us wind at our back."

Lets not forget:

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/1997/iraq/

http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/iraq/decade/sect2.html

http://www.state.gov/p/nea/rls/01fs/14906.htm

And last but not least:

http://husseinandterror.com/

 

[MrChristo]

Wow. Intersting that someone would come across with that point of view on National TV!

Like I said, I don't want to get into a 'who's right and who's wrong' shouting match, I'm just rying to point out there is always two sides to a story...Always a different angle to look at things from.

Just on that Japan/Germany point tho, Channy...well, actually two points:
1) They did eventually quit! (Admittedly forcefully stopped). The West (mainly America) as been messing about in the Middle East for 50 years. Insert a 'leader' here. Undermine a 'leader' there. Depose said 'leader' when he grows a mind of his own. Repeat.
Why?? In the name of stability??...Hasn't worked. Won't work this time.
Most people learn from their mistakes.

2) Both Germany and Japan are now seen historically as 'evil empires'. Countries with evil/mad leaders trying to 'take over the world'.....Is this what Georgey has instore for him in 50 years time?

*** Now I'm positive someone will jump on now and tell me that Bush will be seen as the 'greatest President that ever lived because he was the man who wiped out terrorism!'...or something of that sort...To which I reply an unequivocal, RUBBISH!

 

[Chanman]

Good feedback Mr C. I hadn't even considered someone making Bush out to be one of the 'greatest Presidents.' And no p*ssing match either. I like your input.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

2) Both Germany and Japan are now seen historically as 'evil empires'. Countries with evil/mad leaders trying to 'take over the world'.....Is this what Georgey has instore for him in 50 years time?

A possibilty but could also be noted for bringing democracy to several countries where there are free elections--women vote--children go to school.
and on issue of take over the world----name "just one" country where muslims exist that there is not chaos and intentional killing of civilians--- WOW could it possibly be they might be the ones that go down in history for atrocities as they are responsible for 90% of all terroristic killings in last decade.
but then again you may be correct however after being nominated for Nobel peace prize I find it improbable that he would go down in history of evil/mad leaders except in the minds of some which nothing would change.

 

[MrChristo]

Bush nominated for a NPP?

Arafat was awarded one. How'd he go bringing 'free elctions' and peace to the region?

You don't seem to understand, dtb, that (as I've already said) the US has been medling in the Middle East for so long now it's silly. Nothing has ever changed. Why do you suspect it will this time?

As for your horribly racist assumption that Muslims are the root of all evil in the world....
Top 10 Muslim populated countries are:
Indonesia
Pakistan
India
Bangladesh
Turkey
Iran
Egypt
Nigeria
Algeria
Morocco.

Bet there's some countries in there that you didn't think would be.

While I do tend to agree that a large % of terrorist activities in the past decade would be by Islamic fundamentalists, what does that prove?
I could say that 90% of terrorist activities in the 80's were due to Catholic/Prodastant fighting. Will history portray them as evil? No. Why? Because they were white, didn't wear towels on their heads and believed in the same God that you do.

Besides, do you think that all this terrorist activity is a 'plan' top wipe out Christianity?...Or is it a way of 'making' the West get the **** out of their countries so they run it themselves?

So you don't believe women hiding their faces in public, or girls not being educated is 'wrong'?
Hey, I do too, but do I tell you (not you personally, but the majority of westerners) that chanting the rosary 3 times a week and not eating red meat on Easter makes no sense?

Gotta love these people who want to 'liberate' the people, but then make them live our way!